Found Deceased CA - Madyson Middleton, 8, Santa Cruz, 26 July 2015 - #2 *Arrest*

[epiphany]

California Supreme Court Restricts Life Without Parole Sentences for Juveniles


The California Supreme Court has held that mandatory sentences of life without parole can no longer be applied to juvenile offenders. Even cases involving juveniles convicted of homicide must undergo intense scrutiny before a term of life without parole can be applied.

https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/new...icts-life-without-parole-sentences-juveniles/

 

[TweekTweak]

https://m.facebook.com/Findmadyson/...69482362811/412313252288434/?type=1&source=48

This just breaks my heart! There are sooo many adorable photos of Maddy on this page!!!

Goodness, she looks like such a little sweetheart :'( I have such a soft spot in my heart for little girls around her age (6-9). Most are still innocent but have so much imagination and are beginning to develop such great ideas about the world around them. Boys, too, of course, but I am a woman myself and can identify with the girls a little more. It always hurts to hear about these kids having their lives taken away from them like this. No one deserves this. No one.

 

[TweekTweak]

California Supreme Court Restricts Life Without Parole Sentences for Juveniles


The California Supreme Court has held that mandatory sentences of life without parole can no longer be applied to juvenile offenders. Even cases involving juveniles convicted of homicide must undergo intense scrutiny before a term of life without parole can be applied.

https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/new...icts-life-without-parole-sentences-juveniles/

BBM. If that's the case, I think that this case should be scrutinized a little further. It's only been a few days since this all happened, and I really don't think that AJG should be out and about ever again.

Perhaps this is why the arraignment has been postponed? Possible controversy over the DA's decision to not pursue LWOP?

 

[jjenny]

California Supreme Court Restricts Life Without Parole Sentences for Juveniles


The California Supreme Court has held that mandatory sentences of life without parole can no longer be applied to juvenile offenders. Even cases involving juveniles convicted of homicide must undergo intense scrutiny before a term of life without parole can be applied.

https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/new...icts-life-without-parole-sentences-juveniles/

Which is presumably why DA isn't going to ask for life without parole. Although in this type of crime, letting a defendant out on parole seems very unwise to me.

 

[epiphany]

These 9 states have Eliminated LWOP for convicted juveniles (if I'm understanding correctly):

Connecticut, Nevada, and Vermont are the newest states to join a number of others that have eliminated juvenile LWOP sentences following Miller. In 2014, Hawaii, Massachusetts, and West Virginia enacted statutes abolishing juvenile LWOP. (In 2013, the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court held that juvenile LWOP violates the state constitution). In 2013, Delaware, Texas, and Wyoming passed laws abolishing this sentencing practice. Thus, since Miller was decided in 2012, a total of nine states have eliminated LWOP as a sentencing option for juveniles. With hope, this trend will continue.

http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/le...more-states-eliminate-lwop-for-juveniles.html

 

[gngr~snap]

Very interesting article about AJG's past.

"A handful of community members packed the courtroom crowded with media, though none of the immediate family appeared in court."

"Katie said A.J. was quiet and shy, but knew him to be depressed when they were friends two years ago. She said he would call her late at night and threaten to jump off the roof of his building. She said both she and her mother tried to get him to see a therapist."

"I'll be gone eventually" and another that said "something big will happen in high school."
More at link...
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/ge...omicide?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 

[HarvestMoon]

None of his family showed up in court?

 

[bellesnwhistles]

Very interesting article about AJG's past.

"A handful of community members packed the courtroom crowded with media, though none of the immediate family appeared in court."

"Katie said A.J. was quiet and shy, but knew him to be depressed when they were friends two years ago. She said he would call her late at night and threaten to jump off the roof of his building. She said both she and her mother tried to get him to see a therapist."

"I'll be gone eventually" and another that said "something big will happen in high school."
More at link...
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/ge...omicide?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Wow. So there were definitely indications

 

[jjenny]

Wow. So there were definitely indications

There usually are.

 

[HarvestMoon]

From above article:

'Katie said that sometimes she found his family to be loving but other times she remembers a more volatile relationship and one that didn’t include his father in the picture."

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/ge...omicide?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 

[gitana1]

Monster! Monster! His little " friend" !

It is unfathomable to think one's child can be destroyed in minutes by a young person right next door, who has shown nothing but friendliness.

My guess is this guy was a budding pedophile, sexually aroused by small children and the thought of harming them.

Maddy was riding around her own house. In a secure area where everyone knows each other. It seems that certain horrors are impossible to prevent 100%,unless we deny children any and all freedom at all times.

Possibility for parole?!?! Disgusting.

That's the law. It certainly doesn't mean he will be paroled. And I'm very certain he never will be due to the nature of his crime. His awkward yo-yo child raping life is over.

Now let's see how suicidal he is. Funny how some of these murderers express they were depressed or suicidal at the time they committed murder but over years and years in prison, long after any suicide watch ends, they stay solidly alive.

 

[justwannahelp]

No no no! I'm so confused. There HAVE to be exceptions made in crimes like these for life without parole! You guys, if he gets out, research states that he WILL commit again! He will definitely rape and most likely rape and murder. His brain is not wired right. There is no rehabilitating sociopaths! I promise you that if he gets out, we will be on here a decade or so from now sleuthing a new crime of Adrian Gonzalez. This wasn't just murder. Which is ending a life. This is also torture and cruelty and violation of a CHILD in the worst possible way. Imagine what she went through! How can they for one second think that ALL women and children don't need to be forever protected from him. It's not even about punishment at this point. It's the DUTY of the court to PROTECT us from him. I don't care if they put him in a mental institution- I don't think that's appropriate-- but whatever -- just as long as it is for LIFE! Please protect us monsters like this no matter how old they are!!!

 

[verbonica]

No no no! I'm so confused. There HAVE to be exceptions made in crimes like these for life without parole! You guys, if he gets out, research states that he WILL commit again! He will definitely rape and most likely rape and murder. His brain is not wired right. There is no rehabilitating sociopaths! I promise you that if he gets out, we will be on here a decade or so from now sleuthing a new crime of Adrian Gonzalez. This wasn't just murder. Which is ending a life. This is also torture and cruelty and violation of a CHILD in the worst possible way. Imagine what she went through! How can they for one second think that ALL women and children don't need to be forever protected from him. It's not even about punishment at this point. It's the DUTY of the court to PROTECT us from him. I don't care if they put him in a mental institution- I don't think that's appropriate-- but whatever -- just as long as it is for LIFE! Please protect us monsters like this no matter how old they are!!!

The 'exception', in effect, is parole hearings. Even Charles Manson has had at least a dozen of them over the years.

 

[justwannahelp]

There usually are.

There were indications of him being suicidal, but I didn't see anything on instagram and the friend didn't say anything that pointed to a child rapist murderer torturer. They just CANNOT let him out into society again

 

[gitana1]

Wow. So there were definitely indications

See I don't think any of that would be a sign of something like this to come. Suicidal ideation and depression do not explain homicidal ideation and the desire to violate a small child.

Personally, I see zero signs in his expressions of depression of a potential for something like this. Instead, the signs I think that were there were that a 15 year old boy wanted to hang around little kids. Red flag to me. Most boys that age find little kids annoying for the most part.

 

[SCHMAE]

No no no! I'm so confused. There HAVE to be exceptions made in crimes like these for life without parole! You guys, if he gets out, research states that he WILL commit again! He will definitely rape and most likely rape and murder. His brain is not wired right. There is no rehabilitating sociopaths! I promise you that if he gets out, we will be on here a decade or so from now sleuthing a new crime of Adrian Gonzalez. This wasn't just murder. Which is ending a life. This is also torture and cruelty and violation of a CHILD in the worst possible way. Imagine what she went through! How can they for one second think that ALL women and children don't need to be forever protected from him. It's not even about punishment at this point. It's the DUTY of the court to PROTECT us from him. I don't care if they put him in a mental institution- I don't think that's appropriate-- but whatever -- just as long as it is for LIFE! Please protect us monsters like this no matter how old they are!!!

You said a mouthful and I doubt very seriously he will be eligible for parole. lease:

 

[human]

Very interesting article about AJG's past.

"A handful of community members packed the courtroom crowded with media, though none of the immediate family appeared in court."

"Katie said A.J. was quiet and shy, but knew him to be depressed when they were friends two years ago. She said he would call her late at night and threaten to jump off the roof of his building. She said both she and her mother tried to get him to see a therapist."

"I'll be gone eventually" and another that said "something big will happen in high school."
More at link...
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/ge...omicide?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

I wondered if he had planned an even more horrendous crime.

 

[gitana1]

No no no! I'm so confused. There HAVE to be exceptions made in crimes like these for life without parole! You guys, if he gets out, research states that he WILL commit again! He will definitely rape and most likely rape and murder. His brain is not wired right. There is no rehabilitating sociopaths! I promise you that if he gets out, we will be on here a decade or so from now sleuthing a new crime of Adrian Gonzalez. This wasn't just murder. Which is ending a life. This is also torture and cruelty and violation of a CHILD in the worst possible way. Imagine what she went through! How can they for one second think that ALL women and children don't need to be forever protected from him. It's not even about punishment at this point. It's the DUTY of the court to PROTECT us from him. I don't care if they put him in a mental institution- I don't think that's appropriate-- but whatever -- just as long as it is for LIFE! Please protect us monsters like this no matter how old they are!!!

Life with the possibility of parole absolutely certainly does not mean, at all, that he will ever get out. No need to panic. It is super highly unlikely he will ever be released. No matter how much he "turns his life around" or shows remorse or is a model prisoner.

 

[T4Tide]

Watching that arraignment video is hard. I have 5 children. Two of them happen to be Maddy and AG's ages, 8 and 15. While, of course, I am disgusted, mad, and shocked at AG's actions, I felt a weird split sense of emotions watching him stand in court. It could have been my precious, blonde curly haired girl, with big blue eyes that he lured, tortured, and robbed of a future. As I tucked her in bed last night and she snuggled into my neck, I shuddered at the thought if something happening to my baby girl.

But....it also could have been my 15 year old standing there. Same nose and little lips I'd kissed since birth...all grown up into a man's sized body but a still immature mind. Fifteen is so.....different. There starts to become a separation between a mother and a child as they prepare for adulthood. You give them some space....take others' advice that you just gotta let them grow up and trust them. There may have been signs, and there may not have been. But ultimately a mother can't possibly know all the going ons inside her son's head. My heart goes out to his mother, too. I kept hearing her cries as he was being arrested, and I don't think it was anger at LE, but more of a painful, heartbreaking revelation of reality and disbelief thereof.

I don't discredit his guilt or make light of what he's done. It's just a realization that any of us could find ourselves on these opposite ends of tragedy.....the unthinkable... and I just can't even imagine the pain.

 

[justwannahelp]

The 'exception', in effect, is parole hearings. Even Charles Manson has had at least a dozen of them over the years.

Ok. So tell me if I'm understanding this correctly: so he has the "right" to parole hearings since he's a juvenile. That's the law, but the outcome of these hearings most likely will be something along the lines of "though mr AG has shown good behavior, we feel that due to the nature of the crime, he should not, thus will not be allowed parole"

Am I sort of understanding it correctly?