CA - Malibu Creek State Park Shooting, Tristan Beaudette, 35, 22 June 2018 *Arrest*

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What I am curious about was the "he had a resume to envy" or some such remark in one of the previous news reports..what exactly did he do for a living?I only ask because perhaps he had a falling out with a business associate.Yet that doesn't explain away the other reports of shots in the same area.

At least some of his research revolved around vaccine adjuvants.
https://www.researchgate.net/public...otent_Delivery_Platform_for_Vaccine_Adjuvants

(So you can imagine some of the rumors circulating online as to another possible motive.)
 
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The campground was not isolated. 60 out of 63 spots were occupied. There are only the victims cars in video and pics because LE told everyone else to leave.
 
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I think it was a hit. He lived in Irvine, a pretty densely populated area in Orange County -- definitely not an easy area to shoot someone and get away with it. He goes to an isolated campsite and is shot in the head right before daybreak. I would think the shooter was probably very close. They should be able to estimate the distance.
The thing is, the campground isn’t “isolated”. Nor were people in the campground isolated: it’s busy season and the campground was almost full.

It would have been a place, though, where the victim’s guard was down.
 
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The thing is, the campground isn’t “isolated”. Nor were people in the campground isolated: it’s busy season and the campground was almost full.

It would have been a place, though, where the victim’s guard was down.

True. But what I was trying to express is that if someone wanted him killed the campsite seems like a more opportune place to do it than Irvine. I'm not sure he went to any places more remote than this camp site.
 
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Comment 520 and 548 speaks to my call out on the Juvenile center.

New here. Just figured out I could search a key word within a forum which netted me above info.
 
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The campground was not isolated. 60 out of 63 spots were occupied. There are only the victims cars in video and pics because LE told everyone else to leave.
I've been to Malibu State Creek Park and Irvine. The Park is more isolated.
 
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I think it was a hit. He lived in Irvine, a pretty densely populated area in Orange County -- definitely not an easy area to shoot someone and get away with it. He goes to an isolated campsite and is shot in the head right before daybreak. I would think the shooter was probably very close. They should be able to estimate the distance.

And yet people do. We just had a bombing in a Aliso Viejo at a business. Killed two people.

For me, a hit under these circumstances seems improbable.
They'd have to know: where he was going and then know what space he was in and then what tent he was in. Because I doubt you can see space numbers in the dark and he and his brother in law were feet apart from one another. Hard to tell which tent is which.

They'd also have to know when he was going to be there.

They'd have to be able to surprise him in his tent. So be able to not make noise. - No vehicles driving up.

So they'd have to have good knowledge of the area because it would be hard to walk in and out without detection.

They'd also have to not care about the little girls in the tent and/or be hired by someone who didn't care they were there and could get accidentally hit and totally traumatized.

They'd have to know who was in the tent and what they looked like so they could shoot the right target.

They'd have to be confident there would be no witnesses at a crowded campsite nor that their escape would be captured on surveillance anywhere near the area.

That's a lot of stuff that would have to come together for it to be a hit. And none of it seems like it would fit hit type scenarios I can think of.

Someone from work or in that world could maybe poison him. Or get him in a parking garage like that crazy woman did to the young nursing student Michele Le, if they wanted to stage a hit.

I guess time will tell.
 
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I haven't read all 600+ posts on this but has anyone mentioned the status of the juvenile detention facility that is in the park?

Camp David Gonzalez

It appears to be scheduled for a conversion to a voluntary program.

https://chronicleofsocialchange.org...see-second-life-voluntary-job-training-center

Good point. I wasn't aware it is a detention center. Question is whether someone could a) leave there in the middle of the night and b) own a or multiple guns. Not sure thats possible. Are they allowed to leave only on weekends? Would probably make sense for LE to check who was at the detention facility who would also have been there on other dates of reported shootings.

From the linked hompage:
"The camp is currently hosting about 50 youth from Camp Afflerbaugh-Paige, who are staying there for a couple months while the county fixes a gas leak, Mitchell said."
 
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Good point. I wasn't aware it is a detention center. Question is whether someone could a) leave there in the middle of the night and b) own a or multiple guns. Not sure thats possible. Are they allowed to leave only on weekends? Would probably make sense for LE to check who was at the detention facility who would also have been there on other dates of reported shootings.

From the linked hompage:
"The camp is currently hosting about 50 youth from Camp Afflerbaugh-Paige, who are staying there for a couple months while the county fixes a gas leak, Mitchell said."
What about a guard who's gone off the deep end? That could fit the scenario.
 
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What about a guard who's gone off the deep end? That could fit the scenario.

Could be. The first incident was closest to the detention center at Tapia Park. Someone could have moved further up as it is escalating in nature. It would explain access to guns and maybe early shift changes? Maybe some sort of military background? I imagine it requires some experience to shot someone in the head from a distance.
 
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Comment 520 and 548 speaks to my call out on the Juvenile center.

New here. Just figured out I could search a key word within a forum which netted me above info.
Welcome RobG
 
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The thing is, the campground isn’t “isolated”. Nor were people in the campground isolated: it’s busy season and the campground was almost full.

It would have been a place, though, where the victim’s guard was down.
I think hit as well. I think the hitman knew TB would be with kids. If you take small kids camping, you can almost guarantee that late at night the person you are shooting will be sleeping. I do think he was killed in the middle of the night vs. 4:44am. More clues may come from BIL and his wife PW IMO to help find the shooter.
 
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I hope this link is ok. It has quotes from his brother about what happened, what was found and heard, etc.

He talks about a horizontal shooter from a distance. Much more info than we've known:

Murdered Scientist Tristan Beaudette’s Brother Offers Theory On Tragic Shooting
So a horizontal shooter means it was someone lying on the ground, possibly higher ground than then tent? I don't know. A horizontal shooter sounds to me more like a sniper situation and not so much shooting haphazardly.
Sounds odd to me.
 
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So a horizontal shooter means it was someone lying on the ground, possibly higher ground than then tent? I don't know. A horizontal shooter sounds to me more like a sniper situation and not so much shooting haphazardly.
Sounds odd to me.

To me it sounds like someone was simply shooting forward, like at the direction of the tent, as opposed to shooting him from above him, like directly outside the tent or inside, shooting down at his body.

His comments and those of the family indicate they think someone was messing around, taking potshots, but not necessarily trying to kill someone.

If you shoot at an object from a distance, can't the bullet tear downward after hitting the object, even if a tent?

And if you're shootings from a distance horizontally, can't you still be shooting at an angle that would cause the trajectory to hit the ground?

So not standing above someone and shooting into them, but standing several yards away and shooting forward but slightly angled.

Sounds like someone taking potshots. Anyone could've been hit. It turned out to be TB rather than the little girls or anyone else.
 
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I haven't read all 600+ posts on this but has anyone mentioned the status of the juvenile detention facility that is in the park?

Camp David Gonzalez

It appears to be scheduled for a conversion to a voluntary program.

https://chronicleofsocialchange.org...see-second-life-voluntary-job-training-center

Wow. That place is very close to Malibu state park. Very close. 1st link shows how close on map on right of link. This could be a good theory. Thinking maybe a rogue past participant of that program.

And from the 2nd link below it is interesting some of the information about it. Some may have either left on their own or been kicked out and mad at society.

"The target population is young adults between 18 and 25."

"This would be a voluntary re-entry program, according to the plan. Any participant could withdraw and simply return home."



Camp David Gonzales

https://chronicleofsocialchange.org...see-second-life-voluntary-job-training-center
 
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