CA CA - Maya Millete, 39, missed daughter's birthday, Chula Vista, 7 Jan 2021 #3

[Tealgrove]

I'm thinking the kids were given cold medicine in a drink or something so they would not hear what was to happen.
If there are sounds of children playing, that does not mean it was from the M's house.

Giving the children something to make them sleep would be to assume that this was planned in advance and not something that happened during an argument or in the heat of the moment.

It just seems to me that if I were planning to kill my SO I would plan it so the children were not around, or, at very least, use a method that wouldn’t be heard by my neighbours or my kids.

The 8 shots boggle my mind if that’s what actually happened.

MOO

 

[Yesiamapirate]

Those shots were loud. If all that shooting happened indoors, wouldn’t it be a mess?? Both from the damage to the home and potentially a person? I have experience with gunfire indoors. Not our best moment but long story short:
We lived way out in the country, no neighbors. There was a raccoon in the attic. Mr Pirate took the 22 up and figured one shot and problem solved. I went outside far far away. He went up and ended up taking 5 shots to get him. There were bullet holes through two different rooms on the ceiling and much damage to the wall below. And a window broke from ricochet.
Moo, shooting indoors can be messy. Possible that things were repaired. But I just keep thinking that the kids would know something really bad went down. Moo.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Giving the children something to make them sleep would be to assume that this was planned in advance and not something that happened during an argument or in the heat of the moment.

It just seems to me that if I were planning to kill my SO I would plan it so the children were not around, or, at very least, use a method that wouldn’t be heard by my neighbours or my kids.

The 8 shots boggle my mind if that’s what actually happened.

MOO

*IF* LM is the Perp, he will likely go for an insanity plea, and frankly, he'd have good grounds IMO. It does seem the cheese started slipping off the cracker about a year ago from all those alleged texts to family members, etc.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[Seattle1]

*IF* LM is the Perp, he will likely go for an insanity plea, and frankly, he'd have good grounds IMO. It does seem the cheese started slipping off the cracker about a year ago from all those alleged texts to family members, etc.

Amateur opinion and speculation

I disagree. Even though CA requires only one part of the M'Naghten test met (versus both) for an insanity defense, the definition of legal insanity for trial purposes is a far cry from bizarre, insane, behavior such as what's been alleged from LM.

We know from Gannon's case that just a competency evaluation to stand trial and assist with your defense can take months. An insanity assessment can take years!

The process of declaring your insanity as a defendant begins at the arraignment hearing, where one can plead not guilty by reason of insanity.

The Insanity Defense in California

 

[Bogyo13]

LM saying he had gun residue on his hands definitely makes it more likely that a gun was involved but I really hope for the kids' sake it wasn't.
Wouldn't the girls left alone all day next day try to contact someone-relatives, neighbors etc. An 11 year old knows lying about something this serious is wrong? Wouldn't they be distraught visibly in front of their uncle (MM's brother) when he went to check on her? One of them stated the 11 hours so they did talk to /were seen by uncle on Friday.
Wouldn't LE and family notice their off behaviour?
If they heard gunshots (or saw something) would they be able to hide it from professionals?

I just cannot believe gunshots (and possibly their mum in pain) wouldn't cause shock and meltdown? Plus being alone all day next day without explanation?
My kids are similar age and I hope they would get help in a situation like this but I really hope they will never be in anything vaguely similar.
This case affected me so much, I so want her to be found and the perpetrators behind bars asap.

I hope they get support from school if they are allowed to go in.
JMO

 

[Teche]

Those shots were loud. If all that shooting happened indoors, wouldn’t it be a mess?? Both from the damage to the home and potentially a person? I have experience with gunfire indoors. Not our best moment but long story short:
We lived way out in the country, no neighbors. There was a raccoon in the attic. Mr Pirate took the 22 up and figured one shot and problem solved. I went outside far far away. He went up and ended up taking 5 shots to get him. There were bullet holes through two different rooms on the ceiling and much damage to the wall below. And a window broke from ricochet.
Moo, shooting indoors can be messy. Possible that things were repaired. But I just keep thinking that the kids would know something really bad went down. Moo.

Ha! Mr. Pirate needs rat shot. We have a friend just moved in a country farmhouse. He got tired of hearing rats having a party in the attic and he decided to kill them. He sat in the attic with a weapon and shot each rat with special ammunition. It did help that he grew up hunting and was recently discharged from the marines.

 

[Curious Me]

*IF* LM is the Perp, he will likely go for an insanity plea, and frankly, he'd have good grounds IMO. It does seem the cheese started slipping off the cracker about a year ago from all those alleged texts to family members, etc.

Amateur opinion and speculation

No, I don't think his cheese slipping off the cracker is enough for the insanity plea. He didn't want to lose financially either, most likely, if he did anything. Jealous obsession, reminds me of Jodi Arias. Now, she crawled through doggie doors and still couldn't use the insanity plea.

 

[Seattle1]

I first heard the audio of alleged gunshots on Dr. Phil but the audio quality was faint -- I could only make out that there were bangs and a dog barking.

The typical home ring cams are not of significant quality. This audio is very loud so I don't know how much CBS enhanced the copy. We also don't know the actual distance the neighbor's audio recorder is from the Millete residence. These are important factors to have to accurately assess the bangs. MOO

I finally had an opportunity to review the CVPD dispatch log for Jan 7, 2021, and the only call for this date to report shots fired came much later (i.e., 11:23 pm) and it was not from the Millete neighborhood.

From the enhanced audio being circulated -- hard to believe that the multiple shots --as we're hearing them-- were not reported to 911.

I'm even more curious how long after Jan 7 did the owner of the surveillance audio actually discover/hear the shots on his surveillance.

No report to 911 seems fairly consistent with no chatter elsewhere. I'm pretty confident that B. Little would have been first to confirm how many others interviewed heard the shots recorded on Jan 7.

I also suspect the children were not home when the shots fired -- but most likely returned home when they are allegedly heard in the yard around 10:30 pm (audio). MOO

Press Log | City of Chula Vista

 

[PsychSnack]

It does seem the cheese started slipping off the cracker about a year ago from all those alleged texts to family members, etc.

this is a hilarious expression Very accurate.
IMO LM could have paid a “fixer” to clean the scene or researched what to do. Perhaps that was the car seen driving by in the middle of the night?
I 100% believe MM’s disappearance was premeditated...but not for this specific day. Perhaps LM had a burner phone which he bought with cash. LE confiscated his phone and computers and I’m sure they would know if he called someone that night.... He used some form of technology to inform someone of what happened.
His confidence is unsettling to me. IMO MM’s family is on a wild goose chase and he is enjoying every minute of their futile efforts, especially now that I believe he is bitter that his behavior was brought to the media’s attention.

 

[Dre]

I finally had an opportunity to review the CVPD dispatch log for Jan 7, 2021, and the only call for this date to report shots fired came much later (i.e., 11:23 pm) and it was not from the Millete neighborhood.

From the enhanced audio being circulated -- hard to believe that the multiple shots --as we're hearing them-- were not reported to 911.

I'm even more curious how long after Jan 7 did the owner of the surveillance audio actually discover/hear the shots on his surveillance.

No report to 911 seems fairly consistent with no chatter elsewhere. I'm pretty confident that B. Little would have been first to confirm how many others interviewed heard the shots recorded on Jan 7.

I also suspect the children were not home when the shots fired -- but most likely returned home when they are allegedly heard in the yard around 10:30 pm (audio). MOO

Press Log | City of Chula Vista

Unfortunately, when someone calls and says "I heard gunshots in the neighborhood" the cops usually do a pass through and make sure nothings happening outside of houses. maybe using their light to shine into yards the alley etc. but they're not going to go up to everyones houses to do a welfare check.
It's extremely hard (in my experience) to pinpoint exactly where shots are heard to give an exact address, especially if they're muffled indoors.
its very possible they took this seriously and did some drive throughs and saw and heard nothing to give them pause.
MOO

 

[Seattle1]

Unfortunately, when someone calls and says "I heard gunshots in the neighborhood" the cops usually do a pass through and make sure nothings happening outside of houses. maybe using their light to shine into yards the alley etc. but they're not going to go up to everyones houses to do a welfare check.
It's extremely hard (in my experience) to pinpoint exactly where shots are heard to give an exact address, especially if they're muffled indoors.
its very possible they took this seriously and did some drive throughs and saw and heard nothing to give them pause.
MOO

I think 8 shots would warrant more than a police drive-by (and more than one caller)! Unless of course neighbors didn't actually hear what is being circulated in media.

 

[rosesfromangels]

You do not want to miss this one! Approved for post by Sillbilly with the caveat to *not* repeat/discuss rumors or speculations that are yet to be proven.

*Amazing* info about audio/video forensics, and alot about Maya's case.
A must watch

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[rosesfromangels]

I disagree. Even though CA requires only one part of the M'Naghten test met (versus both) for an insanity defense, the definition of legal insanity for trial purposes is a far cry from bizarre, insane, behavior such as what's been alleged from LM.

We know from Gannon's case that just a competency evaluation to stand trial and assist with your defense can take months. An insanity assessment can take years!

The process of declaring your insanity as a defendant begins at the arraignment hearing, where one can plead not guilty by reason of insanity.

The Insanity Defense in California

Update since I posted earlier today. *If* what we heard are gunshots (I have no doubt in my mind they are, but I'm not an expert), then the lengthy pause between shots six to seven would likely (amateur opinion) constitute premeditation and murder 1. (Discussed in the video I just posted).

But again, amateur opinion and speculation; lets see what the DA thinks when it gets to that point.

Always excellent, well thought out posts Seattle...and your accuracy rate is from what I can see, infallible.

 

[Curious-A]

Unfortunately, when someone calls and says "I heard gunshots in the neighborhood" the cops usually do a pass through and make sure nothings happening outside of houses. maybe using their light to shine into yards the alley etc. but they're not going to go up to everyones houses to do a welfare check.
It's extremely hard (in my experience) to pinpoint exactly where shots are heard to give an exact address, especially if they're muffled indoors.
its very possible they took this seriously and did some drive throughs and saw and heard nothing to give them pause.
MOO

This fascinating technology is available to LE to help pinpoint where shots are fired from but doubt every city or suburb has uses it. ShotSpotter Technology - ShotSpotter JMO

 

[KALI]

For some mob rule crazy reason, after we were put on lockdown here in Southern California, people started firing off fireworks. I mean a LOT of fireworks, nightly, all over Southern California. The craziest thing, I'm sure it's discussed on the news and social media because it was every damn night.
So, personally, I would think if I heard loud bangs with pauses, I would think it was just more idiots firing off fireworks
FOR Those of you who don't live here, you'll probably think I'm making this up.
I assure you. I am not.

I finally had an opportunity to review the CVPD dispatch log for Jan 7, 2021, and the only call for this date to report shots fired came much later (i.e., 11:23 pm) and it was not from the Millete neighborhood.

From the enhanced audio being circulated -- hard to believe that the multiple shots --as we're hearing them-- were not reported to 911.

I'm even more curious how long after Jan 7 did the owner of the surveillance audio actually discover/hear the shots on his surveillance.

No report to 911 seems fairly consistent with no chatter elsewhere. I'm pretty confident that B. Little would have been first to confirm how many others interviewed heard the shots recorded on Jan 7.

I also suspect the children were not home when the shots fired -- but most likely returned home when they are allegedly heard in the yard around 10:30 pm (audio). MOO

Press Log | City of Chula Vista

 

[Dre]

For some mob rule crazy reason, after we were in put on lockdown here in Southern California, people started firing off fireworks. I mean a LOT of fireworks, nightly, all over Southern California. The craziest thing, I'm sure it's discussed on the news and social media because it was every damn night.
So, personally, I would think if I heard loud bangs with pauses, I would think it was just more idiots firing off fireworks
FOR Those of you who don't live here, you'll probably think I'm making this up.
I assure you. I am not.

Same thing here with constant fireworks in Minneapolis. Sure, some are gunshots but I don’t even blink anymore it’s constant evening fireworks if the weather is decent!

we also have Shot Spotter technology and weekly maps to look at- it reminds me of cell phone ping triangulation, between the 911 calls and the tech activation, you can get a *pretty decent idea of what few addresses or part of the block it could have come from.

a few years ago there was a shooting from my patio into a drug house across the alley- I called right away but but sent them 2 blocks the complete opposite direction. It took me awhile to realize the people flooding out of the house into the alley to talk to police and cops in my backyard. I was so fooled where the shots came from based off the direction my open window was facing. We soon got a fence.

The point of my post- it can be pretty hard to tell immediately!
Moo

 

[rosesfromangels]

Dre, Kali, what’s with all the fireworks? Protesting lockdown? Bored youth? General houliganism?

if as frequent as you portray, it does help explain why many neighbors didn’t call LE.
Clearly, the dog knew something bad was happening. : (

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[SandyQLS]

You do not want to miss this one! Approved for post by Sillbilly with the caveat to *not* repeat/discuss rumors or speculations that are yet to be proven.

*Amazing* info about audio/video forensics, and alot about Maya's case.
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[tvscum]

When my little doggie is asleep on my bed at night and he hears a loud noise at a neighbor's house, he wakes up suddenly, lets out a few surprised barks inside the bedroom. Then he goes charging downstairs, exits the doggie door, and starts barking again, and again, and again outside.

If this scenario was recorded by an exterior surveillance camera, it would sound like a few muffled barks or yelps from inside my house, followed a few seconds later by much louder, repeated barks outside.

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[digdug6]

You do not want to miss this one! Approved for post by Sillbilly with the caveat to *not* repeat/discuss rumors or speculations that are yet to be proven.

*Amazing* info about audio/video forensics, and alot about Maya's case.
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Another good discussion.