CA - Multiple Deaths In Mass Shootings At Two Dance Studios in Monterey Park By Gunman Huu Can Tran, Jan 2023

Monterey Park gunman was manufacturing homemade firearm suppressors, sheriff says​

Los Angeles County Sheriff Robert Luna said investigators found a "few items of interest" at the shooter's mobile home — some of which led officials to believe he was "manufacturing homemade firearm suppressors." The items were gathered from a search warrant that was executed earlier Monday.

….Officials also found "hundreds of rounds" of ammunition, the sheriff said.

 
This tragedy really hits me hard for several reasons: I know this city well, having grown up here. I am Asian. And, earlier that Saturday day, I was only 2 miles from the shooting location at a home—where we were celebrating the Lunar New Year. :( So unsettling.

JMO, but it sounds like the shooter may have had mental illness issues involving paranoia and delusions, maybe?

Hemet police say Tran visited the department lobby on Jan. 7 and 9 of this year. He made allegations about fraud, theft and poisoning involving his family in the Los Angeles area 10 to 20 years ago, the department said. He said he would return with documentation proving his allegations but he never showed up again.
Here's what we know about Monterey Park gunman Huu Can Tran
 
The video of Brandon Tsay disarming the shooter at the second dance club has been published.
This young man is incredibly courageous.

 
Monterey Park's population is more than 65% Asian, according to the latest figures from the U.S. Census Bureau.

The city of nearly 60,000 residents had just wrapped up the first day of its Lunar New Year Festival when the shooting occurred.


My (Asian) college roommate's law practice is across the plaza from Star Dance Studio in Monterey Park where the victims were shot and killed by a 72-year-old gunman, and I'm sharing her account as well as our shared experience.

Reportedly, the gunman was once a dance instructor at the studio, and about a year ago, moved from MP to a retirement community in Hemet.

On Sunday night, Community leader Chester Chong told ABC7 that the owner of the dance studio on West Garvey Avenue was holding an event there on Saturday. Through talking with friends that were in attendance and other local leaders, Chong said a woman was invited to the event but not her husband, which made him upset. Chong said he believes that woman's husband is the suspect in this case and jealousy may be a possible motive for the shooting.

Chong also told the network that it wasn't uncommon for the owner of the dance studio to hold these types of events and only invite certain people. He said people got upset all the time about not being able to attend the events.

Again, the above account, previously linked, is from a local community leader.

Relative to Chong's allegation that the owner of the ballroom dance studio often held events where only certain people would be invited and others excluded, I can't speak specifically to Saturday nights event but I have some general knowledge of these happening at venues catering especially to the older Asian/Korean community.

There are unofficial oral histories (consumer reviews) of NY and Los Angeles Asian/Korean Nightclubs 10+ years once visited by all sorts of K-pop royalty over the years and whose club owners have since transformed to ownership of dance studios serving longtime patrons now aged 65+.

Where the former clubs had a certain mystique, like most Asian haunts in NYC and Los Angeles: a word-of-mouth secret, hidden in plain sight, they are not shy about practicing cultural, old-world discrimination.

For example, my lawyer friend tells me even though Star Dance Studio typically advertises events such as the CNY dance on their FB, locals including Chong know the event long sold out (to the owner's exclusive, invitation-only guests).

And just like the studio classes where women outnumber the men, women desiring to attend the Chinese NY party were praying to make the cut! In Asian culture, not being invited is perceived as a scarlet letter, a public shaming. It's brutal -- aunties and uncles going to their graves wondering why they fell out. As my friend puts it -- "think senior citizen Mean Girls, Asian style."

While it's too early to know the shooter's motive, I think it also important to have a cultural perspective surrounding this horrific tragedy affecting so many. MOO



Speaking for Chinese culture, exclusion of family members would never be part of Chinese New Year celebrations. The New Year's Eve dinner and the two weeks of festivities are about family unity, and events would not be planned to exclude anyone.

I don't know about the Korean subculture in the U.S. that you are describing, but it doesn't fit with Chinese culture at all.
 
"Tran had complained to police in Hemet, where he lived, that he feared his family were trying to poison him.

Cops also said on Monday afternoon he had made complaints of fraud and theft dating back up to 20 years against his family to a local police station on January 7 and 9.

He told them he would return with documents regarding his claims, but officers say he never came back."


Sounds like he was having some kind of mental health episode. I wonder who he was referring to as his family, and if there were any relatives in his life who were in touch with him regularly or even irregularly.

If he was having a mental health breakdown, we may never know the motive.
 
The video of Brandon Tsay disarming the shooter at the second dance club has been published.
This young man is incredibly courageous.


I just saw his interview and he is an amazing young man. He was very articulate and grounded. No pretence whatsoever.

The latest shooting perp is an Asian man 62 years old.
 
The video of Brandon Tsay disarming the shooter at the second dance club has been published.
This young man is incredibly courageous.

Amazing. Thank you for sharing the video. Tsay took the shooter straight on and saved the lives of everyone inside Lai Lai.

True hero.
 
Wow... it sounds like the killer was planning an act of vengeance for quite some time ?
Imo.

I would not be surprised if Huu Can Tran is an injustice collector or grudge hoarder. An all too common characteristics of mass killers/terrorist seen in the past like at Columbine, Virginia Tech, Sandy Hook, Isla Vista, Parkland, Uvalde, Las Vegas, Suthernland Springs, Dayton, Orlando, Bath, Happyland Social Club Fire, Oklahoma City, and 9/11.
 
This tragedy really hits me hard for several reasons: I know this city well, having grown up here. I am Asian. And, earlier that Saturday day, I was only 2 miles from the shooting location at a home—where we were celebrating the Lunar New Year. :( So unsettling.

JMO, but it sounds like the shooter may have had mental illness issues involving paranoia and delusions, maybe?


Here's what we know about Monterey Park gunman Huu Can Tran
I'm sorry, @slowpoke. Having grown up there and being that close to the shootings, it has to be very unsettling.

We, too, were having a wonderful Lunar New Year's Eve dinner on Saturday night, and woke up Sunday to this tragic news. Keeping the families of the victims and the surviving victims in our prayers, and also the entire Monterey Bay community.
 
This terrible attack on innocent people could have been so much worse if not for the selfless act of this young man, yes there is hope, imo. HNY to all who recently celebrated.
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''Brandon Tsay, 26, whose grandparents founded the ballroom, told ABC’s Good Morning America that he thought he was going to die.

“Something came over me. I realized I needed to get the weapon away from him, I needed to take this weapon, disarm him or else everybody would have died,” Tsay said.

“When I got the courage, I lunged at him with both my hands, grabbed the weapon and we had a struggle.”

Once Tsay seized the gun, he pointed it at the man and shouted: “Get the hell out of here, I’ll shoot, get away, go!”

The assailant paused, but then headed back to his van, and Tsay called the police, who soon found Tran dead in his vehicle.''

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I noticed that the Toronto Sun linked above states that police said Tran was hunting his ex wife.
Is this confirmed?
Not confirmed, imo. rbbm.
''The elderly man who killed 10 people in a ballroom in Monterey Park was trying to kill his wife when he opened fire on innocent dancers, U.S. police believe.''

“There is increasing evidence this was domestic violence” and he was “looking for his wife” police sources told Los Angeles magazine yesterday.

''The Los Angeles County sheriff’s department has yet to comment on any motive.''
 
- difficult personality
- a quiet loner
- at the same time, accumulating a whole warehouse of ammo
- 72 and possibly, delusional (a new symptom? Ex-wife spoke mostly about anger)
- being pretty much prepared to die
- shooting came as a total shock to the neighbors

I don’t know if it was personal. Possibly, it formed a personal loop in his brain, but IRL, Tran was a garden-variety mass shooter. He probably chose the ballroom(s) the same way Steve Paddock chose Mandalay Bay, or school shooters choose schools. Whatever is closer and better-known, whatever was his life.

The only discount I would give Tran might be his age. MOO - what he was starting to develop was not Alzheimer’s, but more likely, Lewy body dementia, which is poorly diagnosed, and often starts with psychotic symptoms. But it is only JMO.

So, while the local Chinese leader might know the undercurrents of his community, all of this - Asian New Year, ballrooms, red paper lanterns, jealousy and grudges - while adding flavor, of course, takes nothing away from the shootings being our own, our grim reality and statistics.

RIP all the deceased dancers, and speedy recovery to the wounded. Condolences to all relatives who lost their beloved ones, including our own @steeltowngirl and her husband’s family.

And Brandon Tsay is a true hero!
 
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“I’m having some trouble sleeping. I’ve been…you know, recalling events and what happened, contemplating the incident. I would say my mental health is recovering,” he said. “I just hope those people that were affected mostly by this incident also can recover safely.”

His father, Tom Tsay, said he’s very, very proud of his son.

“I’ve always told him that if there’s any people robbing the place, just give them money. A life versus money…money is nothing, but I guess this is a different situation. I never prepared him for that,” he told KTLA.

Tsay’s sister, Brenda, echoed the feeling.

“I’m very proud of him. He’s braver than the rest of us. To be honest, I don’t think I could have done that,” she said. “Once I saw what happened, my stomach turned I was so upset.”

Tsay also acted quickly, along with his family, to get crucial surveillance footage of Tran to authorities.

 

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