CA - Murder victims Identified as Rob Reiner and wife Michele - LA Dec 14 2025

[MistyWaters]

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Mental Health Program (MHP) - Division of Correctional Health Care Services (DHCS)

The primary function of the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation’s (CDCR’s) Statewide Mental Health Program (SMHP) is to ensure patients

www.cdcr.ca.gov

The primary function of the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation’s (CDCR’s) Statewide Mental Health Program (SMHP) is to ensure patients have ready access to mental health services based on their need.

 

[Jade]

Nick Reiner was sent to treatment centres NUMEROUS times over the years. His parents spared no expense to try and get him the best treatment available.

He strongly resisted, and rejected all of it.

They begged him to stop using drugs but he ignored their pleas. He mocked them for their concerns and continued to lie, manipulate and gaslight them for decades.

So now that he slit their throats and left them there, for his sister to find, sorry if I am not that concerned about if Nick is given a chance for yet another Rehab opportunity.

WHY would it be any different this time?

Nick had every opportunity in the world to try and better his life.

My brother was schizophrenic and it took YEARS, but after about a decade, from age 21 to about 32, he finally began to accept treatment. He finally began to work with his doctors to find the right medication combo- and was able to live in a nice halfway house, and make friends and get a side hobby that he really enjoyed.


If Nick had made a real effort to clean himself up, get on track, and stop harassing and threatening his parents, I'd feel more sympathetic towards his situation. But I feel that he was a selfish, lazy, entitled brat that just wanted to do nothing and live like a little prince. He even bragged about it during the Dopey podcasts. Bragged about deceiving his parents, lying to them about being sober for 6 years when that was a lie.

Bragged about 'faking' being crazy at times to get his way with his parents. Having tantrums as leverage to get what he wanted.

So I think prison is the perfect home for him. He can get his meds delivered every morning with his food tray. IMO

Probably because Nick was suffering from progressive mental illness from a young age and was incapable of carrying on a “normal” life.

We have no verifiable idea of what all ails Nick so examples of others success while laudable can’t be compared because we don’t know what is representative, relevant or accurate when it comes to Nick.

Many have complex, significant comorbidity as limiting factors to good mental health.

The Mayo Clinic touches on the difficulty of identifying emerging mental illness in teens:



Schizophrenia is a serious mental health condition that affects how people think, feel and behave.
>>>
Schizophrenia symptoms in teenagers are like those in adults, but the condition may be harder to pinpoint. That's because some early symptoms of schizophrenia — those that occur before hallucinations, delusions and disorganization — are commonly seen in many teens, such as:

Withdrawing from friends and family.

Not doing well in school.

Having trouble sleeping.

Feeling irritable or depressed.

Lacking motivation.

Schizophrenia - Symptoms and causes



All imo

 

[SaraSmile]

California does not really have the Death Penalty.

From wiki:
Capital punishment is a legal penalty in the U.S. state of California.

However, the penalty has not been carried out in that state since 2006, due to a standing federal court order issued that year against the practice, and a 2019 moratorium on executions ordered by Governor Gavin Newsom.

MOO
Very important to “Keep Death Penalty” as an option, even if not carried out. It’s usually a bargaining chip used during plea deals. Pleas are the most likely outcomes for most big cases.

The defendant has to confess, plead guilty, explain details of crime. They often realize they are cornered, too much evidence against them. Then, the sentence is a step down from DP to LWOP. Better prison life, general population, classes etc.

If there was no DP, then the starting point would be LWOP, and during plea, a step down would be 2nd degree murder(25-life), not good! The person would have the right to get out later!

My opinion, this is why California has kept the DP.

 

[lohrtabitha]

Probably because Nick was suffering from progressive mental illness from a young age and was incapable of carrying on a “normal” life.

We have no verifiable idea of what all ails Nick so examples of others success while laudable can’t be compared because we don’t know what is representative, relevant or accurate when it comes to Nick.

Many have complex, significant comorbidity as limiting factors to good mental health.

The Mayo Clinic touches on the difficulty of identifying emerging mental illness in teens:



Schizophrenia is a serious mental health condition that affects how people think, feel and behave.
>>>
Schizophrenia symptoms in teenagers are like those in adults, but the condition may be harder to pinpoint. That's because some early symptoms of schizophrenia — those that occur before hallucinations, delusions and disorganization — are commonly seen in many teens, such as:

Withdrawing from friends and family.

Not doing well in school.

Having trouble sleeping.

Feeling irritable or depressed.

Lacking motivation.

Schizophrenia - Symptoms and causes



All imo

Well said!

 

[lohrtabitha]

Mental Health Program (MHP) - Division of Correctional Health Care Services (DHCS)

The primary function of the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation’s (CDCR’s) Statewide Mental Health Program (SMHP) is to ensure patients

www.cdcr.ca.gov

The primary function of the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation’s (CDCR’s) Statewide Mental Health Program (SMHP) is to ensure patients have ready access to mental health services based on their need.

They might try to make their best effort but there are too many mentally ill inmates in California prisons for this to happen effectively and care is probably minimal at best in my opinion. Current CALIFORNIA PRISON POLICY shows:

" Key Statistics:

• Percent of people in state prisons who have been diagnosed with a mental disorder: 43% +
• In locally-run jails: 44% +
• Percent of people in state prisons with chronic mental illness who have not had treatment since admission: 33%
• Percent of people in federal prisons who reported not receiving any mental health care while incarcerated: 66% +
• Percent of police shootings in 2015 that involved a mental health crisis: 27% +
• Portion of people jailed 3+ times within a year who report having a moderate or serious mental illness: 27% +
• Lasting effects of incarceration: post-traumatic stress, anxiety, impaired decision-making, and more +"

Mental health

Research about Mental health and the criminal justice system

www.prisonpolicy.org

 

[Arkay]

He is not in prison right now. He is in Twin Towers, which is an LA County Jail facility.

If he ends up in a prison, then he will be prescribed medications to take each day.

Exactly. Which is why I have been saying that he should be in a prison.


Of course, I never said it didn't work. I want him to have forced treatment, in prison.

If he is sentenced to a Mental Health Hospital, he can be released at any time, if the doctors decide he is doing better.

That would be very dangerous, imo.

I trust you, @katydid23, as you have been very candid about your own family’s struggles with a schizophrenic loved one.

My fear as well is that if Nick is ever released from prison or a mental health facility, if it’s 10 years, 20 years, whenever, that he can one day go after Romy, Jake or Tracy. We cannot know what he is truly thinking or will be contemplating in the future.

JMO

ETA : as an aside, I get a little queasy seeing a facility named “Twin Towers,” as I imagine all New Yorkers here must feel. I know it’s silly but it’s a flashback for me.

As long as they get the job done I will try to disregard.

 

[lohrtabitha]

He is not in prison right now. He is in Twin Towers, which is an LA County Jail facility.

If he ends up in a prison, then he will be prescribed medications to take each day.

Do you have a source saying he is currently receiving his meds in jail then and if they are forced? I would love to know this. He has to be deemed competent before he can go to trial. Thanks

 

[lohrtabitha]

What former senator do you speak of? Neither Padilla nor Schiff's term expired in 2024. Okay- found it in one of your previous posts- Darryl Steinberg was never a senator of California, perhaps a State Senator, which is an entirely different thing.

Senator Darrell Steinberg was the California Senate President pro Tempore and the leader of the majority party in the California State Senate. State Senators have a lot of say so and work hand in hand with the U.S. Senators of their state.

 

[MistyWaters]

dbm

 

[carolmaria]

(snipped) My fear as well is that if Nick is ever released from prison or a mental health facility, if it’s 10 years, 20 years, whenever, that he can one day go after Romy, Jake or Tracy. We cannot know what he is truly thinking or will be contemplating in the future.

Yes, as if consigning his siblings to a life sentence of horror and grief wasn’t enough.

Then to add a terrifying prospect, the possibility of release. No no no.

The devastation NR has left in his wake is incalculable, irreversible.

May he “possibly” recover and “possibly” contribute in a setting where he never again has access to family or friends of RR and MR.

All MOO

 

[everlearning]

Rob Reiner and Wife Held ‘Intervention-Style’ Meeting Over Troubled Son Nick Weeks Before Murders

The Reiner family held a “tense, emotional, intervention-style meeting” about Nick Reiner just weeks before his parents, Rob and Michele, were murdered, Rob Shuter reported in his Naughty But Nice Substack on Tuesday, December 16. “Everyone knew Nick was a ticking time bomb,” one family insider...

www.yahoo.com

 

[MistyWaters]

<modsnip: Quoted post was removed> .. what is generally known, that prosecutors consult with victims' families to gauge their preference for the death penalty or a lesser sentence like LWOP before proceeding with one or the other.

 

[BUF]

Thought I’d repost the “initial “ press conference right after the murders

 

[LinasK]

Senator Darrell Steinberg was the California Senate President pro Tempore and the leader of the majority party in the California State Senate. State Senators have a lot of say so and work hand in hand with the U.S. Senators of their state.

Yes, but you said "Senator" as in US Senator. State Senator is a very different thing. I've lived in CA 65 years and couldn't tell you who Darryl Steinberg was.

 

[lohrtabitha]

Yes, but you said "Senator" as in US Senator. State Senator is a very different thing. I've lived in CA 65 years and couldn't tell you who Darryl Steinberg was.

I said Senator not US Senator. That is his title.

 

[LinasK]

I said Senator not US Senator. That is his title.

No, you implied that he was a senator, not state senator.

 

[LinasK]

<modsnip: Quoted post was removed> ... If Romy & Jake really believed like their parents that he shouldn't receive the death penalty, they'd be voluntarily marching to the prosecutor's office to tell them their wishes.

 

[MistyWaters]

<modsnip: Quoted post was removed> ... If Romy & Jake really believed like their parents that he shouldn't receive the death penalty, they'd be voluntarily marching to the prosecutor's office to tell them their wishes.

Or forking out the funds to hire a private attorney who is experienced in arguing NGRI. But no, they say “they have the utmost trust in the legal process and will not comment further on matters related to the legal proceedings."

Nick Reiner's family speaks out after attorney withdraws from case

During Nick Reiner's Jan. 7 arraignment, his attorney Alan Jackson announced his withdrawal from the case regarding Rob Reiner and Michele Reiner's murders.

www.nbclosangeles.com

 

[LinasK]

I’m so glad you replied that way focusing on outward appearance as a criticism.

That post perfectly illustrates the article about the way superficial observations by outsiders of the psysical manifestations of the medications inhibit the patient’s acceptance of the treatment so those visible side effects are duly addressed for adherence purposes.

The point of the article whooshes past as the distain is manifested unnecessarily for an afflicted stranger enmeshed in a tragic crime.

But you are right.

Nick was more handsome in the conventional way not like the GQ models of present.

The current GQ models are more diverse, celebrate their style flagrantly, no doubt appealing to the buyers as GQ says “the modern man” with diverse forms of masculinity.

So we have an common expression from a friend denoting Nick’s old school GQ looks. I’m old school so I got it.

No, Nick is not like the makeup wearing, bearded, tattooed current GQ models.

But isn’t the intention of the friend to convey that Nick looked great to him and that is what he found scary about mental illness?


All imo

No, you twisted my words. I never criticized Nick's physical appearance in relation to his mental status. To me, he never had a model's physique. I think the friend's opinion of him is equally distorted to present that as the ultimate truth. Nick Reiner was never good looking appealing to me, even in the younger pictures. Now if you were talking a younger David Krumholtz, or Steve Howey that'd be a different matter. Besides, Nick Reiner has never known my opinion, so my opinion certainly DIDN'T affect his acceptance of treatment. PS, I think tattoos are ugly, so are beards and makeup on men.

 

[freudianslip]

Thought I’d repost the “initial “ press conference right after the murders

Thank you for the humbling reminder of how much we still don’t know, and for pointing out that the prosecutor will take the surviving victim’s wishes into account when seeking a sentence.