CA - Murder victims Identified as Rob Reiner and wife Michele - LA Dec 14 2025

  • #381
beyond that- to be so loved and to have all those resources and yet-- to be so full of hatred against his parents that he murdered them in cold blood by slitting their throats--to think that he had that in him all these years-- IMO that is the heart of a sociopath-
I have to agree ,he is a psychopath or sociopath because of the millions of drug addicts in the world only a small minority kill and at that ,kill loved ones . Nick had to have some sort of psychological disturbance beyond "average " mental health issues . In photos you can see the demons within him

To slit someone's throat not only shows an intent to kill but a real hatred during the act ,imo this was not a heat of the moment madness this was something festering for a long long time.

I suspect Rob told Nick he was cutting him off on Saturday as a result of whatever happened. I honestly can't see Rob instigating a public argument for the sake of it . I reckon nick did something that warranted Rob or Michele calling him out on his behaviour in front of everyone.

I think Nick has wanted to kill his dad anyway for a long time but as long as Nick was gaining something either financially or materially like a home he bided his time . Once that was cut off he didn't care if he went to prison, in Nicks mind he felt justified in killing them because he has always said they were the source of his pain ,drug use and issues

This is a man who has been to rehab 22 times at a minimum, taking responsibility is not his forte moo
 
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I have to agree ,he is a psychopath or sociopath because of the millions of drug addicts in the world only a small minority kill and at that ,kill loved ones . Nick had to have some sort of psychological disturbance beyond "average " mental health issues . In photos you can see the demons within him

To slit someone's throat not only shows an intent to kill but a real hatred during the act ,imo this was not a heat of the moment madness this was something festering for a long long time.

I suspect Rob told Nick he was cutting him off on Saturday as a result of whatever happened. I honestly can't see Rob instigating a public argument for the sake of it . I reckon nick did something that warranted Rob or Michele calling him out on his behaviour in front of everyone.

I think Nick has wanted to kill his dad anyway for a long time but as long as Nick was gaining something either financially or materially like a home he bided his time . Once that was cut off he didn't care if he went to prison, in Nicks mind he felt justified in killing them because he has always said they were the source of his pain ,drug use and issues

This is a man who has been to rehab 22 times at a minimum, taking responsibility is not his forte moo
Agree with your post in all respects!
 
  • #383
from the jail site

Bail
Total Bail Amount NO BAIL
Total Hold Bail Amount 0.00
Grand Total NO BAIL

Court
Next Court Code M30
Next Court Date 12/16/2025
Next Court Time 0830
Next Court Case 9999999999
Court Name LOS ANGELES MUNI CT DIV 30
Court Address 210 W. TEMPLE STREET
Court City LOS ANGELESUPT


link: https://app5.lasd.org/iic/Details
 
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Tuesday, Dec. 16th:
*Initial Hearing (@ 8:30am PT) - CA – Rob [Robert Norman] Reiner (78) & Michele Singer Reiner (68) found dead in their L.A. home on Sunday, Dec. 14, 2025 [with throats slit]. *Nick Reiner (32) arrested & charged (12/14/25) with 2 counts of murder. Bond set at $4M. Bond reset (12/16/25) to No bond. L.A. County
Case info: 12/14/25: Reports confirm the distress call came from within the house, placed by the couple’s daughter, Romy Reiner, who discovered the bodies. The timeline established by the LA Fire Dept. (responding to a "medical aid" call at 3:30pm) suggests the victims may have been discovered hours after the incident occurred, a timeline consistent with a quiet, internal tragedy rather than a chaotic break-in. Upon arrival, LAFD found a man, 78, & a woman, 68, dead. Sources confirm the victims were Rob & Michele. Multiple sources tell PEOPLE that the killer was the couple's son, Nick Reiner. Nick previously spoke publicly about his long battle with drug addiction & periods of homelessness. Police say Nick, 32, is alive & being questioned. No arrests have been made. While no formal arrest charges have been filed as of Monday [12/15/25] afternoon. The couple's son, Nick is being questioned by the LAPD’s Robbery-Homicide Division. Law enforcement sources have identified him as a "person of interest," a designation often used when police believe the perpetrator is known to the victims. Rob Reiner’s troubled son Nick has been charged with murder after allegedly fatally stabbing the famed director & his wife, Michele, at their Los Angeles home, law enforcement sources said Monday.
12/16/25 Update: Bond has been changed to NO bond. Initial hearing on 12/16/25 @ 8:30am.
 
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I have to agree ,he is a psychopath or sociopath because of the millions of drug addicts in the world only a small minority kill and at that ,kill loved ones . Nick had to have some sort of psychological disturbance beyond "average " mental health issues . In photos you can see the demons within him

To slit someone's throat not only shows an intent to kill but a real hatred during the act ,imo this was not a heat of the moment madness this was something festering for a long long time.

I suspect Rob told Nick he was cutting him off on Saturday as a result of whatever happened. I honestly can't see Rob instigating a public argument for the sake of it . I reckon nick did something that warranted Rob or Michele calling him out on his behaviour in front of everyone.

I think Nick has wanted to kill his dad anyway for a long time but as long as Nick was gaining something either financially or materially like a home he bided his time . Once that was cut off he didn't care if he went to prison, in Nicks mind he felt justified in killing them because he has always said they were the source of his pain ,drug use and issues

This is a man who has been to rehab 22 times at a minimum, taking responsibility is not his forte moo
I have seen nick be disrespectful in interviews with his dad. Like he is trying to “ out his dad, for something. In the interview for “ being Charlie” When asked if the movie was good, RR said it was, and Nick replied “ you never said that at first , you basically told me it was garbage” ( paraphrasing) on a live Tv interview. The resentment was so apparent . I can see Nicki doing something like this at a party, making comments that might embarrass or hurt RR. He was a total brat.
 
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  • #388

'He was struggling': Rob Reiner's son Nick Reiner moved back into the house few days ago, says report​

Tarun Mishra

Edited By Tarun Mishra
Published: Dec 15, 2025 at 18:11 IST | Updated: Dec 15, 2025 at 18:11 IST
According to sources close to the investigation, their son Nick Reiner (32) had moved back into the family’s Brentwood estate only "a few days" prior to the killings, following a renewed struggle with personal issues.
 
  • #389
I have seen nick be disrespectful in interviews with his dad. Like he is trying to “ out his dad, In the interview for “ being Charlie” When asked about if the movie was good, RR said it was, and Nick relplied “ you never said that at first you basically told me it was garbage” ( paraphrasing) on a live Tv interview. The resentment was so apparent .
You can see the resentment, ( hate) it is plain for all to see imo

I must admit although I had seen the many films Rob made ,I wasn't aware of him and I hadn't been aware of Nick or the film finding Charlie. So I'm looking at this with "fresh eyes " .

Imo Nick was eaten up by his father's likeable nature .Any success or compliment attributed to Rob was taken as a criticism of himself . This is narcissism in the negative. The narcissist takes success of others as a failure for themselves.

This is an innate part of Nick ,no amount of praise , empathy, love shown or success of their own compensate and no amount of drugs soothe it .there will always exist someone who naturally more resourceful, talented ,richer and intelligent then you . It's it just the fundamentals of life and the law of averages . The need to be the best that gnaws is insatiable as it can't be quenched . It just so happens that the person that Nick obsessed over was his father . It was a roundabout neither could get off .

As the more the father did ,the more the son resented the endurance of his father's love .it was always going to end this way as long as the two where in the same proximity imo moo
 
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I can imagine the guests at that party and Nick asking them
“ are you famous? Did he truly not know or was he trying to make people feel like they were nobodies, like he didnt know who they were, It’s almost antagonistic
 
  • #392

12/15/25

Nick's strained relationship with his parents has been no secret in Hollywood, with his father even making a film with his son about the challenges they faced, primarily driven by Nick's struggles with drug addiction.

His problems seemingly began long before adulthood, with 2012 children's book, A Chair in the Air, about a difficult boy named 'Little Nicky' written by a family friend who was inspired by his unruly nature as a boy.

Nick was an 'intense kid' who 'screamed like the world was on fire', prompting his parents to have family therapy and even inspiring a book about a child with behavioral problems, the author, Alanna Zabel, told the Daily Mail.

Zabel taught yoga to the family for almost ten years, including private classes with Nick.
So when she heard on Sunday evening that the 'When Harry Met Sally' director, 78, and his wife Michele, 68, were found dead with stab wounds in their Brentwood, LA home, her thoughts immediately went to the troubled child she knew.

From an angsty child, he became a young adult with severe drug problems. He had been to rehab 18 times as of 2016, first going around his 15th birthday, and lived on the streets after refusing to go back.
There's just no justification for killing, and killing so brutally.

However.

I'm wondering what it does to a person, a CHILD, when his extended family/friends circle decides to not only publicise his struggles, but monetise them. He had absolutely no privacy. Years before drugs entered the frame, someone wrote a book about him, presumably without informed consent because a child can't consent because they have no concept of what that means.

Nick seems to have slowly, continuously imploded his whole life, and had to do it in a spotlight.

Yes, he had choices, and made a lot of bad ones, but I wonder about those choices made for him, and how much extra weight they added. They can't have helped.

MOO
 
  • #393
Definitely don’t do it the lazy way and unleash them on the rest of the world.
I admire those we read on WS that have kept their troubled ones close often at their own peril but saving the rest of us from the other scenarios we read about on WS.

Makes me wonder what is the ''right thing to do''. At one time I think it was more common to kick your kids out of the house at age 18 and let them sink or

Sending them off to live homeless, panhandle and be a strain on social services and communities just becouse they have reached an arbitrary age is irresponsible.



All imo




Oh dear what a horrid thing to say about RR on a thread dedicated to his tragic death.

All indications is that NR was severely mentally ill.

Articles universally describe RR as humble,kind and loving.

The articles have information that detail the early troubles treated professionally and ongoing.

Severe mental illness Is not triggered by having good friendly parents nor is it a cause to have gregarious successful parents.

That is sadly ignorant of what the families struggle with in such sad cases that leads to isolation and depression in those brave parents that are care givers.

All imo
It is really hard to have parents who suck up all of the oxygen in a room constantly. Just living with people who are amazing, larger than life. It is like, you either have enough strength and self efficacy to do your own thing. Or give up, and be a complete and spectacular screwup.

It isn't the parents fault. And it is really hard for people who are so successful to acknowledge that they have such a screwed up child. They keep trying to "fix" it. And the adult kid, resents it even more. Such a dysfunctional dynamic.

Please link where the RS did not acknowledge NRs problems. It appears to be the central theme of their life for many years from the posted articles. Or that they were trying to fix it rather than learn to live with it under the care of professionals.

All imo
 
  • #394
That's not how I read it--the paragraph you quoted is preceded by this:

The showdown occurred a few months after another big public argument between the dad and Nick.

So I took it to mean that the blowup at Conan's party was a few months after the blowup at the restaurant.

It's ambiguous for sure.
I think you're right. I kept thinking, wjy would they hold a xmas bash at a restaurant.
 
  • #395
I can understand it too. These are funny people getting together to have a good time.

If their son was withdrawn and struggling at home, they would want to show him that he’s included, important, and maybe even hoped that he’d enjoy himself being in around people who have the capacity to bring light to darkness with humour.

However, I can imagine it might have sadly exposed Nick’s issues and flared up the tensions at home. Especially if he resented his parents, or had feelings of shame or inferiority.

The statements about him glaring, making inappropriate comments, dressing casually and an explosive argument all paint a picture that he was already in a crisis that night. It honestly sounds like he’s a troubled teenager in an adults body, the way it’s been described.

That, and the change in his appearance since 2016, reminds me of few men I knew in my 20s who suffered from schizophrenia, struggled with drug issues and were treated with anti-psychotics.
In my opinion only, when I saw pictures of him from several years ago and recent pictures, my first thought was that he had been prescribed one of the newer generation of antipsychotics.
 
  • #396
That's not how I read it--the paragraph you quoted is preceded by this:

The showdown occurred a few months after another big public argument between the dad and Nick.

So I took it to mean that the blowup at Conan's party was a few months after the blowup at the restaurant.

It's ambiguous for sure.

Thank you that is a really good clarification.

I was surprised to read it was in a restaurant because in podcasts etc Conan’s annual xmas
party has been described as taking place
in his home

The article is unclear but reading the paragraph previous to the restaurant mention, it seems the restaurant event was a few months prior to the Christmas party.
 
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A poster upthread had said they believe the Reiners were killed in the afternoon, but what I'm reading shows that's when they were discovered; having likely been killed between 12-2 AM the night before.

It sounds like the argument at the party that night resulted in the later murders.

Nick had checked into a hotel and blood and other evidence was found there.

Hotel room Nick Reiner fled to after allegedly murdering parents was covered in blood: report

 
  • #399
Does California have Insanity defense? Probably. But seriously, if that crazy movie theater shooter in Colorado didn't get the "Insanity" stamp, geez, the bar must be pretty high.

Would he be eligible for any inheritance cash for his defense? From people he killed? Or just a public defender?

Insanity as a defense is an incredibly high bar to reach. I believe it’s something like less than 1% of individuals are successful with it as a defense. Considering he was seen arguing loudly with his parents before the murder, then retreated to a posh hotel afterward, I doubt one would be able to say he wasn’t in control of his actions at the time. Being under the influence of drugs or alcohol doesn’t absolve one of legal responsibility either.

Usually one isn’t able to profit from a crime, i.e.; if there’s a will with Nick included, he wouldn’t be able to collect any of it. Whether there are family members willing to help fund his defense out of pity or a sense of obligation is another story, though.
 
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  • #400
Addiction is a god awful disease. My son just died a week ago of a drug overdose. I’m still trying to find my way here. Like the old saying Can’t lead a horse to water. It’s been a very tough week. So I understand the pain they had when it came to their son. It’s just a very tough situation.
My heart goes out to you, @Pattyj82060.

What a horrible tragedy — and especially hard this time of year. Take good care of yourself — hope you are surrounding yourself with all the support you can find. Remember the Three C’s: you didn’t cause the addiction, it wasn’t yours to control or cure. May God’s peace be with you.
 

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