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a nice article about michele, it’s good to get to know a bit more about her beyond being rob reiners wife
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Bbm.Very much on board with this. Just from my observations while working in long-term psychiatric facilities.
Yes, the forensic psych population can be tough, but people who not only consider… but *carry out* an intimate, bloody, savage murder of both their parents—exceedingly rare.
I’d be concerned about NR’s potential to wreak havoc on the milieu, staff and patients alike. That gaming part you refer to.
Aww, Such a sweet story about Michele. Her photography beginning, her smoking, had to quit, to go out with Rob, LOL. So much great info here. I’ll read more later.a nice article about michele, it’s good to get to know a bit more about her beyond being rob reiners wife
Good article - thank you for sharinga nice article about michele, it’s good to get to know a bit more about her beyond being rob reiners wife
Well aren't their death certificates interesting... Rob's status is listed as Married, and Michele's status is listed as Widowed. Either Rob was autopsied first (likely, but not necessarily the reason), and that's why he's listed as Married and she's not... or the ME came to the conclusion that he likely died first, making him Married since she'd still be alive, and her Widowed when it came to her turn at getting autopsied.![]()
Rob and Michele Reiner Death Certificates Released
The surviving loved ones of Rob and Michele Reiner have a little more closure today ... the couple's death certificates have been released.www.tmz.com
They were both cremated at Mount Sinai Mortuary.
Rob and Michele's deaths were previously revealed as homicides from "multiple sharp force injuries." The certificates describe how the injuries occurred ... "with knife, by another."
Link has been provided in the postWe need a source links for that chart or it will have to be removed.
They still use electroshock therapy! Which I couldn't believe when I was informed a few years back while working in healthcare. Well in Canada they do.Yeah, I'm beyond glad we've moved on from the days of lobotomies and forced electroshock therapy, but sometimes I wonder if the modern alternatives to the institutional model are really as much better as we've convinced ourselves they are
I wholeheartedly believe there was mental illness at play. I have read much about his behavior in childhood. Here is an article where his former teacher describes working with him. Nick Reiner’s Early Struggles Recalled by Former Teacher: ‘Beyond Any of Us’Assuming there was an underlying mental illness.
BBMThey still use electroshock therapy! Which I couldn't believe when I was informed a few years back while working in healthcare. Well in Canada they do.
I thought how archaic but apparently it does work well for some illnesses. They use a different name for it now though: electroconvulsive therapy. Lobotomies thank goodness I don't think are used but I haven't checked lol
Great observation and very interesting indeed. Thanks for posting!Well isn't their death certificates interesting... Rob's status is listed as Married, and Michele's status is listed as Widowed. Either Rob was autopsied first (likely, but not necessarily the reason), and that's why he's listed as Married and she's not... or the ME came to the conclusion that he likely died first, making him Married since she'd still be alive, and her Widowed when it came to her turn at getting autopsied.
Anyone know why the weren't both listed as Married or both Widowed? It just seems kinda odd to me.
Rob's: View attachment 632634
Michele's: View attachment 632635
Oh haha gotcha sorry about that.BBM
Oh I know, but things are better with informed consent and such these days. Plus I think they use decent sedation for it now
AI on Google says:Another thing interesting about their autopsies... time of death. I'm guessing I was right about him being autopsied first (he's more famous).
Robs: View attachment 632637 I'm guessing FND was the date and time found. If anyone knows that FND means something different please correct me!
Michele's: View attachment 632638 Interesting in that they wouldn't include FND on hers as well. It should IMO and shouldn't be piggybacking off Rob's which is how this feels to me. Her time being 1 minute after Rob's makes me think he was first as I had surmised.
That's what I thought. Thanks for posting that. But, why not FND on Michele's? You'd think both autopsies would follow the same rules since they were done at the same time(ish), the same ME office, and by the same person. Odd...AI on Google says:
AI Overview
On a death certificate, "FND" most commonly means "
Found Dead," indicating when the body was discovered, rather than the time of death, especially if the body wasn't found immediately. However, it could also refer to Functional Neurological Disorder, a real medical condition with neurological symptoms, but this is less common on the formal cause of death section unless the disorder was the direct cause, which is rare.
If you see FND:
In most cases, "FND" on a death certificate simply means the person was found dead on that date, with the actual time of death being earlier.
- Check the Date: Look at the date listed next to FND. If the date of death is different (e.g., a day or more earlier), FND refers to the discovery date.
- Context is Key: If it's in a box about when the body was found or discovered, it's "Found Dead".
- Medical Conditions: If it's listed as the cause of death, it's likely the rare but genuine Functional Neurological Disorder, a brain-based issue with communication pathways, not a structural defect.
I'm not sure... the only thing I can think of is RR was found actually dead... maybe MR had a small sign of life at first?That's what I thought. Thanks for posting that. But, why not FND on Michele's? You'd think both autopsies would follow the same rules since they were done at the same time(ish), the same ME office, and by the same person. Odd...
They were both found dead. We'd have heard if Michele was found alive.I'm not sure... the only thing I can think of is RR was found actually dead... maybe MR had a small sign of life at first?
BBM. Because he is mentally ill, and was very likely experiencing psychosis. Some of the comments I'm reading are suggesting NR was simply an entitled druggie, who was spoiled by his parents. I think the Reiner's loved their son immensely, and had all the resources to try various therapies to help him, vs. institutionalize him. Schizophrenia is marked by delusions and hallucinations. Who knows what NR's reality was the night of the murders.Agreed 100 % with your entire comment, with emphasis on the bolded.
They were totally unprepared for that violence from the son they loved and to add I think there was maybe some level of premeditation ?
N.R. ended the lives of two people who probably loved him the most.
Why, why, why ???![]()
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Reiner Family Reportedly Against Death Penalty For Nick As They 'See Him As Someone Who Was Failed'
Nick Reiner's family does not want him to face the death penalty if found guilty of killing his parents, Rob and Michele Reiner.www.yahoo.com