CA - Murder victims Identified as Rob Reiner and wife Michele - LA Dec 14 2025

[Sundog]

IMO, depending on how wills or other legal docs are written, it could make a difference who died first.

JMO

I agree, but I do think that the coroner attributed the order of the deaths according to the evidence found during the autopsy and/or the evidence provided by LE and first responders.

 

[SMK777]

On RR death certificate, Michelle is listed as surviving spouse. He is not listed as surviving spouse on hers. Hmmm

I don't understand. She was not surviving.

 

[MistyWaters]

I don’t recall reading this before. According to this report the Reiners essentially rescued NR from some undisclosed situation by allowing him to move back home within the prior week of the murders. “Recently returned to live at his parents…..” would indicate he had been living somewhere else previously, while other reports give the impression he’d never left.

IMO a lot of current information about the life of NR is being withheld, most of what is being reported seems to be from several years ago. It leaves the impression his last 15 or so years were just an extension of literally nothingness ever since the days of Being Charlie, but how accurate is that?
JMO

BBM

'He was struggling': Rob Reiner's son Nick Reiner moved back into the house few days ago, says report

According to sources close to the investigation, their son Nick Reiner (32) had moved back into the family’s Brentwood estate only "a few days" prior to the killings, following a renewed struggle with personal issues.

www.wionews.com

“Citing law enforcement sources and family friends, ABC News reported on Monday that Nick Reiner had recently returned to live at his parents' South Chadbourne Avenue home. The move was described as a temporary arrangement intended to help him stabilize. Sources told the outlet that Nick had been "struggling" in recent weeks, prompting his parents to intervene and offer him a place to stay, a decision that investigators now believe placed them in the direct path of the violence….

…..The ABC report notes Nick's previous aversion to living at home. In the past, he admitted to choosing homelessness in states like Texas and Maine over returning to court-mandated rehab or his parents' rules. His decision to voluntarily return to the Brentwood estate this week indicates a significant shift, either a genuine desire for help or a desperate lack of options.…..

….The surviving Reiner children, Jake and Romy, have not commented on the specific claims regarding Nick's living situation. However, the ABC report suggests that the family was aware of Nick's recent instability. Investigators are likely interviewing them to establish a timeline of Nick's behaviour since his return to the house earlier this week.”

 

[Cedars]

I don't understand. She was not surviving.

IMO, they are reporting that when he died, she was still alive. When she died, he was no longer alive.

 

[Sundog]

I don't understand. She was not surviving.

If RR died first, then MR was the surviving spouse for that brief time before she died after him. All very hard to think about.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

It's used at a much, much lower intensity these days. I don't think sedation is even necessary. It's not at all like "One Flew Over the Coocoo's Nest" which is what I think of when I think of EST. I know someone who had severe depression for years and none of the meds worked for her, no therapy, nothing. So she wanted to try this and it worked magically for her. She is no longer depressed and is happy & enjoying life, it's actually pretty amazing.

I love hearing that someone can turn around and by electricity! Medicine/psychology can be so amazing.

 

[Sundog]

I love hearing that someone can turn around and by electricity! Medicine/psychology can be so amazing.

A friend of mine's father succumbs to deep depression every few years or so. He is a surgeon and undergoes EST during these episodes, and then he does very well for a significant period of time. They are a great family and he is a well-respected surgeon in Canada.

 

[MistyWaters]

IMO, they are reporting that when he died, she was still alive. When she died, he was no longer alive.

Or that when his death certificate was being completed, hers had not been filed yet so indications were that she was alive? When her death certificate was processed, his death was already on file.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

A friend of mine's father succumbs to deep depression every few years or so. He is a surgeon and undergoes EST during these episodes, and then he does very well for a significant period of time. They are a great family and he is a well-respected surgeon in Canada.

Fascinating. Always like to be open and learn something new The fact that this works with some is great.

I wonder if NR ever tried that type of therapy? I imagine if the Reiners were desperate maybe? But we may never know NR's full medical/psychological history if there's no trial.

I'm unsure how much would be kept confidential. I'm surprised we're hearing as much as we are now actually (but theorizing like others, lhis lawyers might be "leaking" things MOO JMO).

 

[BUF]

This is still an active investigation and we are not privy to the full autopsy report….like were there defensive wounds on the victims, etc. We are also not privy to the crime scene and what was found….sometimes leading to more questions that need to be investigated….along with everything else.

The initial death certs are not final….clearly stamped “Informational, not a valid document, to establish identity”. They will be updated as the investigation proceeds. Don’t be surprised when some things in there may change.

 

[Seattle1]

12/23/25

Guest alleges Hollywood is a pro-drug culture, lacking penalties for abusers.

12/23/25

Dr. Jeffrey Lieberman Criticizes Quality of Nick Reiner's Rehab Institutions​

 

[JDG]

This is still an active investigation and we are not privy to the full autopsy report….like were there defensive wounds on the victims, etc. We are also not privy to the crime scene and what was found….sometimes leading to more questions that need to be investigated….along with everything else.

The initial death certs are not final….clearly stamped “Informational, not a valid document, to establish identity”. They will be updated as the investigation proceeds. Don’t be surprised when some things in there may change.

I’m going to piggyback off this post to say…..

Don’t be surprised when his attorney has him plead not guilty by reason of insanity.

Then the attorney will tell the court that he is not fit for trial.

No trial, no pictures, just hustle him off to a psychiatric facility for the rest of his life.

If that is going to happen it may be on January 7th.

It’s one way to shut it all down and the lawyer gets a fine pay check for doing so.

 

[SMK777]

I’m going to piggyback off this post to say…..

Don’t be surprised when his attorney has him plead not guilty by reason of insanity.

Then the attorney will tell the court that he is not fit for trial.

No trial, no pictures, just hustle him off to a psychiatric facility for the rest of his life.

If that is going to happen it may be on January 7th.

It’s one way to shut it all down and the lawyer gets a fine pay check for doing so.

That's what I've been afraid of. But nothing can be done if that's the case.

 

[Chimera]

I don’t recall reading this before. According to this report the Reiners essentially rescued NR from some undisclosed situation by allowing him to move back home within the prior week of the murders. “Recently returned to live at his parents…..” would indicate he had been living somewhere else previously, while other reports give the impression he’d never left.

IMO a lot of current information about the life of NR is being withheld, most of what is being reported seems to be from several years ago. It leaves the impression his last 15 or so years were just an extension of literally nothingness ever since the days of Being Charlie, but how accurate is that?
JMO

BBM

'He was struggling': Rob Reiner's son Nick Reiner moved back into the house few days ago, says report

According to sources close to the investigation, their son Nick Reiner (32) had moved back into the family’s Brentwood estate only "a few days" prior to the killings, following a renewed struggle with personal issues.

www.wionews.com

“Citing law enforcement sources and family friends, ABC News reported on Monday that Nick Reiner had recently returned to live at his parents' South Chadbourne Avenue home. The move was described as a temporary arrangement intended to help him stabilize. Sources told the outlet that Nick had been "struggling" in recent weeks, prompting his parents to intervene and offer him a place to stay, a decision that investigators now believe placed them in the direct path of the violence….

…..The ABC report notes Nick's previous aversion to living at home. In the past, he admitted to choosing homelessness in states like Texas and Maine over returning to court-mandated rehab or his parents' rules. His decision to voluntarily return to the Brentwood estate this week indicates a significant shift, either a genuine desire for help or a desperate lack of options.…..

….The surviving Reiner children, Jake and Romy, have not commented on the specific claims regarding Nick's living situation. However, the ABC report suggests that the family was aware of Nick's recent instability. Investigators are likely interviewing them to establish a timeline of Nick's behaviour since his return to the house earlier this week.”

Rbm.
Thanks for the link. ^^^
Some of this is new to me !

Regarding the bolded; That sounds very likely ?

Theory : He had significant help from his parents and at last he had come to the end of his road, with no other future or option than to listen to his parents and professionals, and make an effort to get himself serious treatment and not back out of it ??
And maybe he hated his parents and blamed them for this ?
I.e., "It's their fault, not mine."
Imo.

 

[Chimera]

I’m going to piggyback off this post to say…..

Don’t be surprised when his attorney has him plead not guilty by reason of insanity.

Then the attorney will tell the court that he is not fit for trial.

No trial, no pictures, just hustle him off to a psychiatric facility for the rest of his life.

If that is going to happen it may be on January 7th.

It’s one way to shut it all down and the lawyer gets a fine pay check for doing so.

A real possibility, for sure.
Seems unfair, imo !
But if the end result is permanently locking him away ....
I still worry he could harm staff or other patients.
They'll have to monitor him closely.
Omo.

 

[SMK777]

Rbm.
Thanks for the link. ^^^
Some of this is new to me !

Regarding the bolded; That sounds very likely ?

Theory : He had significant help from his parents and at last he had come to the end of his road, with no other future or option than to listen to his parents and professionals, and make an effort to get himself serious treatment and not back out of it ??
And maybe he hated his parents and blamed them for this ?
I.e., "It's their fault, not mine."
Imo.

It had to have been something along these lines, yes; whatever the catalyst or last straw was.

 

[Hexe]

It had to have been something along these lines, yes; whatever the catalyst or last straw was.

Actually, no. I do not think there had to be some last straw. This dude, for all we know, was not very emotionally stable and quick to rage even before he started taking drugs. He has been junkie since he was a teen so his brain at this point might be permanently changed and not for the better. Honestly, I suspect he switches into rage for the silliest reasona and no reason at all, especially if he is still taking stimulants.

 

[Chimera]

If RR died first, then MR was the surviving spouse for that brief time before she died after him. All very hard to think about.

Yes, that tracks.
The first action of first responders would be to check vitals if applicable.
If Michele had even a brief pulse, they'd start cpr/oxygen/ambulance and possible intubation ?
Maybe she passed in the ambulance ?
Imo.

 

[Chimera]

I’m going to piggyback off this post to say…..

Don’t be surprised when his attorney has him plead not guilty by reason of insanity.

Then the attorney will tell the court that he is not fit for trial.

No trial, no pictures, just hustle him off to a psychiatric facility for the rest of his life.

If that is going to happen it may be on January 7th.

It’s one way to shut it all down and the lawyer gets a fine pay check for doing so.

Bbm.
That may not be easy to prove, even if NR's atty. believes it so.

Below are some videos of NR at the convenience store loitering, notice how he seems to tense up a bit when the cop (man w/shaved head) walks in ?
Or at least it appears that way :

Video shows Nick Reiner in gas station store, LAPD arresting him for parents' murders

Video shows Nick Reiner moments before his arrest and when he was taken into custody for the murders of his parents, director Rob Reiner and Michele Singer.

abc7.com

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The point is that he appears to be walking with purpose and somewhat evasive.
Was N.R. waiting for someone outside that convenience store ?
We know from past msm articles he used street drugs as well as any meds he was prescribed ... was he waiting for his dealer ?
Most likely we'll never know now, but the contents of his phone would be interesting.
Imo.

 

[Seattle1]

The wilderness camps were not, in fact, therapeutic. Some had children kidnapped from their beds at home by masked men to be brought to facility. Many were shut down due to documented cases of severe abuse, including sexual abuse. Nick was at least 1 camp that was closed due to abuse.

The wilderness camp NR attended at age 16 was identified by NR as "Second Nature," located in Utah. They've been in operation for more than 27 years and is NOT closed down. Link

Patients who attended with NR have talked to MSM-- offering both the bad and good about their experiences here.

In 2016, NR told the Dopey podcast interviewer that he met a "hardcore Venice kid," attending Second Nature for heroin addiction, and two years later, while NR was living in a sober house, NR reached out to him because he wanted to try heroin, and shot up for the first time with his former rehab pal. NR was 18.

NY Post

“I met him when I was 16 and then, I was 18, I was in a sober living [facility], and I call him up because I knew he was really into heroin at the time.”


The iconic director’s troubled middle child, now 32, said he then went to Skid Row with his former rehab pal and shot up for the first time.