CA - Murder victims Identified as Rob Reiner and wife Michele - LA Dec 14 2025

[su5ie]

Yes I agree. I watched the 25 minute interview with Rob and Nick in 2015 by AOL. If you watch the interview and his mannerisms, you can tell that something is off. He doesn't make a whole lot of eye contact and he is staring off into space. When his dad was talking about their relationship he seemed agitated. The interview is definitely something to watch. He is clearly disturbed. What is a parent supposed to do with a child of this nature? The Reiners had to much heart to institutionalize him and Rob Reiner told friends he was scared of Nic according to many news articles. Then to throw drug addiction into the equation, he was a ticking time bomb. Imo

I feel Nick made sure Michelle and Robs bags were always packed and ready to go on that regular guilt trip

 

[Sundog]

i hope there will be an outcome that will bring a sense of justice and that will make the family feel safe, while also giving a fair process to someone with mental illness.

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Just want to add that the Court needs to impose a sentence that protects society from the defendant.

I think it needs to be less about what the family wants, and more about what society needs and wants. I think it is out of the family's hands now, although if they want to hire a lawyer for him and support him, that of course, is their right and understandable. But the prosecution has to represent what is best for the state, not what's best for NR or his family.

 

[Sundog]

Then they will have to keep their client away from the stand, because whenever Nick opens his mouth, his nasty personality shines through his words. Also, I bet provoking him into angry outburst is a piece of cake.

Agree, but if there is a trial, I am sure they will have him medicated so that the outbursts don't happen.

 

[Sundog]

Seems like money really can buy anything

Not for Rob and Michelle Reiner, though.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Agree, but if there is a trial, I am sure they will have him medicated so that the outbursts don't happen.

More like "sedated", methinks.

 

[Tortoise]

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Just want to add that the Court needs to impose a sentence that protects society from the defendant.

I think it needs to be less about what the family wants, and more about what society needs and wants. I think it is out of the family's hands now, although if they want to hire a lawyer for him and support him, that of course, is their right and understandable. But the prosecution has to represent what is best for the state, not what's best for NR or his family.

It always has to be about the law. IMO

Families are sometimes or usually not of a single mind, in my experience. There may be disagreement between family members and what may be agreed now may change in the future, because they are naturally in a state of shock. His future treatment is really not about what the representatives of the family want, but what the law dictates, because the law has already considered how to treat the defendant justly, in light of whatever facts emerge.

MOO

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I agree. And I think undiagnosed schizophrenia could far more likely result in a successful insanity defence than blame for medications for the treatment of it, whether changed or not. JMO

He has had the schizophrenia diagnosis for some years however.
I think the defence will attack the "change" in medication, more than the disease itself.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Was a blood sample taken from NR after he was arrested?
This would show what drugs would have been in his system along with his prescribed meds.
imo

And I do think they will make the drugs known to the public... to enhance the insanity due to medication defence.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Yes I agree. I watched the 25 minute interview with Rob and Nick in 2015 by AOL. If you watch the interview and his mannerisms, you can tell that something is off. He doesn't make a whole lot of eye contact and he is staring off into space. When his dad was talking about their relationship he seemed agitated. The interview is definitely something to watch. He is clearly disturbed. What is a parent supposed to do with a child of this nature? The Reiners had to much heart to institutionalize him and Rob Reiner told friends he was scared of Nic according to many news articles. Then to throw drug addiction into the equation, he was a ticking time bomb. Imo

And he has stated that he was still using.
I do think it was not the best choice for Rob to make such a theatrical deal over the "being Charlie". Maybe Nick would have struggled trying to write it..... but so be it.

The article back up thread where the LATimes journalist met with Rob and Nick when 'Being Charlie" was coming out in Toronto explained the father-son dynamic going on.
And, last week, I listened to a Fresh Air episode where Terry Gross was interviewing Rob in Sept of this year-2025. They had cut out part of the broadcast discussing "Being Charlie", but she re-broadcast that part last week. Quite honestly, Rob was quite dismissive of that period of time, and was saying basically that "Nick as in great shape"---just 3 months ago!!!

How can that be, really, if the diagnosis of schizophrenia is a few years.....

I bet there are lots of Hollywood types having discussions with their nepo kids.....

 

[MistyWaters]

He has had the schizophrenia diagnosis for some years however.
I think the defence will attack the "change" in medication, more than the disease itself.

Well they’d really have no choice but to blame it on medication considering the illness was well known. And untreated schizophrenia can result in paranoia and delusional thinking, which can support an insanity defence.

But medications? In this case an array of medical professionals can be expected to testify medications for treatment of mental illnesses don’t cause murder. While it may not cure it, it’s supposed to reduce delusional thinking and enables the patient to live a more normal and satisfying life…..IF illegal drugs or alcohol are avoided but that mixture is where I suspect the defence will be challenged.
JMO

 

[MistyWaters]

And he has stated that he was still using.
I do think it was not the best choice for Rob to make such a theatrical deal over the "being Charlie". Maybe Nick would have struggled trying to write it..... but so be it.

The article back up thread where the LATimes journalist met with Rob and Nick when 'Being Charlie" was coming out in Toronto explained the father-son dynamic going on.
And, last week, I listened to a Fresh Air episode where Terry Gross was interviewing Rob in Sept of this year-2025. They had cut out part of the broadcast discussing "Being Charlie", but she re-broadcast that part last week. Quite honestly, Rob was quite dismissive of that period of time, and was saying basically that "Nick as in great shape"---just 3 months ago!!!

How can that be, really, if the diagnosis of schizophrenia is a few years.....

I bet there are lots of Hollywood types having discussions with their nepo kids.....

I agree. Every parent wants the best outcome for their children as they grow into adulthood and sp it seems to me that Being Charley became an opportunity for RR to publicly announce how he helped get his son back on course. Why that would be important, who can say, because the vast majority of the general public didn’t know about NR’s issues in the first place. But maybe just publicly talking about it gave RR a sense of achievement and relief, even though NRs behaviour pointed toward still more trouble ahead. But many of RRs public comments indicate he minimized the seriousness of NR’s mindset. Maybe he was just stuck in a place where he chose to believe what he wanted to? That’s not uncommon.

I would imagine the friends closest to the Reiners were supportive and understanding. Mental illnesses and drug addictions have become so common, most people can relate. The rich and famous seldom want to share their dirty laundry with the general public and there’s no reason they should need to. Unless tragedy strikes, life just quietly goes on as it for the rest of us.
JMO

 

[waldojabba]

I feel all these latest articles are being fed to the public to sublimely change perception of Nick from monster to victim and I don't like it , as it shows Hollywood up to its old tricks of damage control imo

If the information is true, and it seems to be, at least just as much as anything else out there , I have no problem with it. I think putting the facts out there is called leveling the playing field. And remember this legal team has been hired by the Reiner family.

The rush to judgement and the statements by every arm chair pyschologists out there - these are also tainting potential jurors. It's an absolute feeding frenzy out there by every so called podcaster etc, and it shows little respect to the Reiner family's stated wishes.
bbm below

"We are grateful for the outpouring of condolences, kindness, and support we have received not only from family and friends but people from all walks of life," Jake and Romy Reiner said. "We now ask for respect and privacy, for speculation to be tempered with compassion and humanity, and for our parents to be remembered for the incredible lives they lived and the love they gave."

Rob and Michele Reiner's children speak out after Nick Reiner's arrest on murder charges

Jake and Romy Reiner, the children of renowned Hollywood director Rob Reiner and wife Michele Singer Reiner, are speaking out for the first time.

abcnews.go.com

JMO

 

[MistyWaters]

If the information is true, and it seems to be, at least just as much as anything else out there , I have no problem with it. I think putting the facts out there is called leveling the playing field. And remember this legal team has been hired by the Reiner family.

The rush to judgement and the statements by every arm chair pyschologists out there - these are also tainting potential jurors. It's an absolute feeding frenzy out there by every so called podcaster etc, and it shows little respect to the Reiner family's stated wishes.
bbm below

"We are grateful for the outpouring of condolences, kindness, and support we have received not only from family and friends but people from all walks of life," Jake and Romy Reiner said. "We now ask for respect and privacy, for speculation to be tempered with compassion and humanity, and for our parents to be remembered for the incredible lives they lived and the love they gave."

Rob and Michele Reiner's children speak out after Nick Reiner's arrest on murder charges

Jake and Romy Reiner, the children of renowned Hollywood director Rob Reiner and wife Michele Singer Reiner, are speaking out for the first time.

abcnews.go.com

JMO

Are the ‘facts out there’ a level playing field, are they accurate or one-sided? Exactly who are the unnamed friends and insiders blabbing private information to the media and what do they hope to gain by it considering it’s anything but respectful to the family’s stated wishes. It used to be that personal medical information was shrouded in confidentiality but obviously that’s not so anymore.

These are the things I wonder about.

 

[turaj]

Oh I view him as both too but I don't know if the victim part is down to the 'monster " manipulating people into believing he is a victim when really he has engineered a life that enables him to do as he pleases without consequence or having to take responsibility and ownership of the majority of his problems

I get schizophrenia and MH issues are beyond total control but many suffers have fulfilling lives by stabilising meds , it would seem nick had a seething resentment that prehaps prevented him from wanting to stabilise in order to cause as much havoc and unhappiness to those he resented imo moo

This comes across in the Charlie interviews, you can see the hate aimed at his father ,this is in my opinion an example of how Nick enjoyed watching others squirm and feel uncomfortable

i have not seen NR in one interview with his father where it was a two way street in terms of love and respect for each other. I think he hated his father not because RR was a bad person but he resented his fame and that of his grandfather...he wanted to be famous for something but just never was. His whole life at home he was surrounded by "famous" people and then that ill fated night is taken to a party again of nothing but "famous" people and then he cracked. If meds were being changed should have been under medical watch in hospital. Be interested to see what drugs were in his system that night.

 

[turaj]

Well they’d really have no choice but to blame it on medication considering the illness was well known. And untreated schizophrenia can result in paranoia and delusional thinking, which can support an insanity defence.

But medications? In this case an array of medical professionals can be expected to testify medications for treatment of mental illnesses don’t cause murder. While it may not cure it, it’s supposed to reduce delusional thinking and enables the patient to live a more normal and satisfying life…..IF illegal drugs or alcohol are avoided but that mixture is where I suspect the defence will be challenged.
JMO

reports were that he was standing at that intersection for quite some time. Was he used to scoring drugs there? Or what was going on?

 

[getthefax]

Yes I agree. I watched the 25 minute interview with Rob and Nick in 2015 by AOL. If you watch the interview and his mannerisms, you can tell that something is off. He doesn't make a whole lot of eye contact and he is staring off into space. When his dad was talking about their relationship he seemed agitated. The interview is definitely something to watch. He is clearly disturbed. What is a parent supposed to do with a child of this nature? The Reiners had to much heart to institutionalize him and Rob Reiner told friends he was scared of Nic according to many news articles. Then to throw drug addiction into the equation, he was a ticking time bomb. Imo

In that video you can see Nick is triggered by his dad constantly talking over him and speaking for him. They were both really vying for the attention in that one. NR seemed very triggered and angry.

 

[ttjo]

Agree, but if there is a trial, I am sure they will have him medicated so that the outbursts don't happen.

Then you read this and it seems that he had some self control. Conveniently as long as he got what he wanted, it would keep the outbursts down.

“He wasn’t stable. There were many times when Nick had a rant and it affected everyone … Michele would say to people ‘Please don’t upset him.’ The family and all their helpers would basically cater to him. The rule was always ‘Give him what he wants.'”

That is from this article

Inside Nick Reiner’s sheltered Hollywood upbringing and how he left mom ‘at her wits end’ before grisly double murder

Accommodations, ever since his childhood, were made for Nick Reiner. A source related to The Post that those around Nick were told “not to upset him.” The source continued, “They would basica…

nypost.com

 

[ttjo]

Are the ‘facts out there’ a level playing field, are they accurate or one-sided? Exactly who are the unnamed friends and insiders blabbing private information to the media and what do they hope to gain by it considering it’s anything but respectful to the family’s stated wishes. It used to be that personal medical information was shrouded in confidentiality but obviously that’s not so anymore.

These are the things I wonder about.

Ive heard a few acquaintances ( not close friends) and when asked about the schizophrenia, they were evasive, It felt more like they acted like they were in the know rather than actually being in the know. It’s like the 5 min thing. IMO

 

[otto]

i have not seen NR in one interview with his father where it was a two way street in terms of love and respect for each other. I think he hated his father not because RR was a bad person but he resented his fame and that of his grandfather...he wanted to be famous for something but just never was. His whole life at home he was surrounded by "famous" people and then that ill fated night is taken to a party again of nothing but "famous" people and then he cracked. If meds were being changed should have been under medical watch in hospital. Be interested to see what drugs were in his system that night.

I tend to agree. I watched a video (linked upthread) that he released, where he didn't do or say anything worthwhile - stood in a laneway talking, trying to look or act cool. I think he presumed that he should be famous by association, even though he made no effort to do anything remarkable. He seems to lack imagination and creativity. He's a poor little entitled rich kid who believes he should receive special treatment.

I think he under-estimated and under-valued the work of his father and grandfather - simply viewed them as lucky, and blamed his father for not making him lucky. If he couldn't get attention as a brilliant, successful hollywood star based on his last name alone, he was satisfied with the attention he received as a problematic drug abuser who has no social barriers.

I suspect that if he is sentenced to psychiatric care, it will be a lifelong game for him acting out and manipulating everyone in his sphere. In prison, someone will quickly put a stop to his mind games.

 

[su5ie]

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So we can frame it in a way that absolves the parents of all fault and lay the blame firmly at the feet of Nick

No matter what hoops the parents jumped through unless nick wanted recovery it was never going to be achieved. He could have been placed in treatment for 6 weeks , 12 weeks ,18 months and it would not have made a difference

I feel this is what Rob was referring to when he stated he shouldn't have listened to the professionals advocating to place nick in rehab , because it set in motion a pattern of defeat for both parties. Which in turn built walls of resentment and guilt

We only get a snapshot into the predicament they all found themselves in and from that miniscule timeframe in the grand scheme of things .we see Rob as a loving parent abet a bit over - bearing . But we see Nick seething, rude and not caring if a public is viewing his contempt

I suppose if we look at the relationship from a psychological and behavioural point of view both fed into the sickness . Nick with his inferiority complex ( moo) was always going to avenge and Rob was always going to feel like he could amend and fix

As we know from couple relationships this was never going to work out and the best anyone could have done is let go and let live and understand that there is some things we can't control as a parent as hard as that might be ,it's a reality many face .

Money , fame and love is what influenced choices here right up until Conans party .