CA - Murder victims Identified as Rob Reiner and wife Michele - LA Dec 14 2025

[Izzylizzy]

Tragic,sad, but excellent interview
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Dec 29, 2025 BRIAN ENTIN INVESTIGATES

'Reports indicate police were called to the Reiner home numerous times dating back to 2013. The calls included a mental health related check and battery of family violence investigation. But could there have been more incidents involving Nick Reiner that were not reported officially to police? We’re looking into that — and also the time of death and a possible insanity defense in this episode of Brian Entin Investigates. Check out Maureen O’Connell’s Podcast "Best Case, Worst' Case" https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...

 

[Izzylizzy]

Yikes: old news but I haven't seen it posted, but could have missed it.

TMZ: No warrant for LE to search NR's hotel room for evidence.
Bye-bye evidence?


???
Did LE find the knife and was it NR's bloody clothes he was trying to wash in the bathroom/shower?

 

[Izzylizzy]

When Barry stayed at the Reiners home in November, he mentioned Nick also stayed in the same house, not the guest house, why would that be? Maybe he wanted to be around everyone? Then a few weeks later he moved into the guest house, something seems off about this. If they were wanting to keep a watchful eye on him, why not keep him in the house? Or did Nick demand he would stay in the guest house? It’ll be interesting to hear what the staff/help have to say about everything.

Totally different subject, when the housekeeper went to his hotel room to clean it and saw all the blood, why didn’t they contact the police instead of cleaning it up?

Where did you see it reported that the hotel first cleaned up the blood before calling 911?
Hotels have strict policies for blood found in rooms no less a room with blood all over it.
For starters ..directly to manager and seal off room.
imo

 

[MistyWaters]

When Barry stayed at the Reiners home in November, he mentioned Nick also stayed in the same house, not the guest house, why would that be? Maybe he wanted to be around everyone? Then a few weeks later he moved into the guest house, something seems off about this. If they were wanting to keep a watchful eye on him, why not keep him in the house? Or did Nick demand he would stay in the guest house? It’ll be interesting to hear what the staff/help have to say about everything. Totally different subject, when the housekeeper went to his hotel room to clean it and saw all the blood, why didn’t they contact the police instead of cleaning it up?

That would be interesting to know. I imagine the reason for him moving into the guest house will be disclosed at trial as RR might know why.

As for the blood, I’m wondering if that wasn’t a story that grew big legs in the coffee room after learning a wanted murderer rented a room there. Surely there’s a process at hotels when significant blood is encountered in a room to report it before professional biohazard cleaners are called to protect room cleaners and future room occupants from potential contaminants. As it stands, since the room was cleaned nobody will ever know how much blood there was. Could’ve been NR having a nose bleed, I’ve heard it common amongst cocaine users.
JMO

 

[Megnut]

Where did you see it reported that the hotel first cleaned up the blood before calling 911?
Hotels have strict policies for blood found in rooms no less a room with blood all over it.
For starters ..directly to manager and seal off room.
imo

Blood all over the room sounds Dexterish.

That the room was cleaned tells me it wasn't a macabre scene.

Bet hotel staff see it all. Menses, for one. OJ, blood in the hotel sink, iirc.

He probably bled from his hand onto the sheets. And after his shower. Not gushing blood. Just blood.

Hotel rooms can be petri dishes of bodily fluids.

JMO

 

[Sadi]

Where did you see it reported that the hotel first cleaned up the blood before calling 911?
Hotels have strict policies for blood found in rooms no less a room with blood all over it.
For starters ..directly to manager and seal off room.
imo

I don’t remember where I read that, I’ll do some checking and reply back.

 

[Megnut]

Yikes: old news but I haven't seen it posted, but could have missed it.

TMZ: No warrant for LE to search NR's hotel room for evidence.
Bye-bye evidence?


???
Did LE find the knife and was it NR's bloody clothes he was trying to wash in the bathroom/shower?

Why would they need a warrant? The room didn't belong to NR. If the hotel mgmt gave LE permission to enter, they could. Wellness check, for one thing.

JMO

 

[Izzylizzy]

Where did you see it reported that the hotel first cleaned up the blood before calling 911?
Hotels have strict policies for blood found in rooms no less a room with blood all over it.
For starters ..directly to manager and seal off room.
imo

TMZ:
Room/blood cleaned up.
LE had no warrant to search room for evidence
"Welfare check" ? No warrant needed

LAPD Search of Nick Reiner's Hotel Done Without Search Warrant

LAPD searched the hotel room where Nick Reiner checked in around the time his parents were murdered, and TMZ has been told the police did not have a search warrant. Harvey explains during the latest episode of the "2 Angry Men" podcast what happened at around 1 AM Monday ... when an LAPD...

www.yahoo.com

 

[Sadi]

Where did you see it reported that the hotel first cleaned up the blood before calling 911?
Hotels have strict policies for blood found in rooms no less a room with blood all over it.
For starters ..directly to manager and seal off room.
imo

It was reported by TMZ, see details below.
I’m not disagreeing with you that hotel management would have told housekeepers to leave the room as is and call the police to investigate. It’s hard to say what is factual being it’s from TMZ.

Police Searched Nick Reiner's Hotel Room for Murder Weapon in Reiner Murders

An LAPD Robbery-Homicide detective showed up at the hotel where Nick Reiner was staying … looking for a weapon, blood, and other evidence connected to the murders of Rob and Michele Reiner … TMZ has learned.

www.tmz.com

 

[Izzylizzy]

Why would they need a warrant? The room didn't belong to NR. If the hotel mgmt gave LE permission to enter, they could. Wellness check, for one thing.

JMO

Because NR hadn't checked out so the room is considered his and he has privacy etc?
The wellness check could apply for no warrant but that may depend on is there any evidence that "a wellness check" was requested by someone and is on record?
imo

 

[Izzylizzy]

It was reported by TMZ, see details below.
I’m not disagreeing with you that hotel management would have told housekeepers to leave the room as is and call the police to investigate. It’s hard to say what is factual being it’s from TMZ.

Police Searched Nick Reiner's Hotel Room for Murder Weapon in Reiner Murders

An LAPD Robbery-Homicide detective showed up at the hotel where Nick Reiner was staying … looking for a weapon, blood, and other evidence connected to the murders of Rob and Michele Reiner … TMZ has learned.

www.tmz.com

Thank you, that info passed me by and we don't know who TMZ's back channel is for all these claims.
imo

Now if I were a betting woman..lol

imo

 

[SaraSmile]

When Barry stayed at the Reiners home in November, he mentioned Nick also stayed in the same house, not the guest house, why would that be? Maybe he wanted to be around everyone? Then a few weeks later he moved into the guest house, something seems off about this. If they were wanting to keep a watchful eye on him, why not keep him in the house? Or did Nick demand he would stay in the guest house? It’ll be interesting to hear what the staff/help have to say about everything. Totally different subject, when the housekeeper went to his hotel room to clean it and saw all the blood, why didn’t they contact the police instead of cleaning it up?

I think Barry stayed in November, before Nick started new meds. It seems Nick was able to maintain at that time, all got along, seemed “ normal”.

Then, he started psych meds which made him worse ( not adjusted yet).

I only heard about him staying in the guest house. I hadn’t heard he stayed in main house sometimes.


Re: Hotel room cleanup. I think the reports of a blood soaked room were overblown. I think there was blood on sheets and in the shower, but not an alarming amount to a maid. Maids clean up all kinds of body waste in Hotel rooms, part of the job.

The police were called to the hotel( as a secondary crime scene), after room had been cleaned.
Maid acknowledged finding some blood, had cleaned it up.

Detective could possibly still find blood traces in the hotel room.

 

[SaraSmile]

Thank you, that info passed me by and we don't know who TMZ's back channel is for all these claims.
imo

Now if I were a betting woman..lol

imo

I hadn’t seen this report, about police entering room before being cleaned?
I thought maid cleaned, detectives entered after it was cleaned, still found some evidence.

 

[SaraSmile]

Isnt that “standing silent” or “mute” like what kohberger did? I know there is a strategic reason, something like it forces a judge to enter a not guilty plea for you and allows the process to continue without you showing / acknowledge guilt or remorse ( and why that matters/ self incrimination). better wait for a lawyer to explain better but I bet if you google why defendants stand silent , or why did kohberger stand silent. It will give some reasons.
** they talk about it on page 81 of this thread

Nick did not stand silent, he agreed to postpone a speedy arraignment. According to AJ, Nick was not medically cleared to participate, make decisions about his case. Next court date Jan 7.
Gives AJ time to look into case evidence so far, decide direction.

1. If enough Evidence of insanity, mental illness, psych meds. At arraignment, Nick to plead Not Guilty, Insanity plea. NGRI

2. Or, if AJ does not think he can “prove” insanity, then Nick to plea Not Guilty, AJ threaten to or actually go to trial. If AJ goes this way, The Mental Health issues would go to mitigation.

 

[MistyWaters]

I hadn’t seen this report, about police entering room before being cleaned?
I thought maid cleaned, detectives entered after it was cleaned, still found some evidence.

One can see how the tabloids thrill at hyping high profile cases. Are we seriously supposed to believe NR was a zombie-like character who left a dripping blood trail from the Reiner residence all the way to the hotel room?

Nowhere is it reported LAPD were called by the hotel prior to the room being cleaned. NR reserved the room for only one day. Checkout time is normally around 11am, the Reiner couple weren’t discovered until later, 3pm, so IMO the room would’ve been cleaned long before LAPD began tracking his whereabouts later that same Sunday evening.

That says to me it was AFTER his name hit the headlines when staff alerted LAPD.
JMO

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“Staff alerted the LAPD after claiming to have discovered a disturbing trail of blood inside his room.”

 

[otto]

What I dont like to read is how his meds were making him out of his head weeks before the murder, if they made him so out of his head why was he not monitored more closely or was he?? Feels an awful lot like excuse making. It is similar to how he said “ I get crazy, you dont want to set me off” like it was a game and a warning all in one. Like an “ I told ya so…’

That line "don't want to set me off" is interpreted as a threat by everyone. Walk on eggshells, let him do what he wants, because telling him 'no' could have unexpected violent results. I agree that it's not about the medication - it's all about Nick using violence, and threats of violence, to control those around him.

He laughed when he said that - as though he enjoys the control he has over others by losing his temper and damaging their property. He knows that he causes fear.

When Nick was at the party, he asked Hader what his name was and whether he was famous. Hader told him he was in a conversation - pointed response telling him to get lost. Rob told Nick to stop. They argued, then Nick was asked to leave. Rob and Michele left soon after.

Nick was rude, told to leave, and it seems that set him off. For Nick, I think that means he believes that has no obligation to keep his emotions in check. He can have a full blown justified tantrum to demonstrate his anger - according to Nick.

He held his parents responsible for his embarrassment, so he lashed out at them.

 

[otto]

Yes, I agree.
AJ does have a couple of speed bumps to deal with:

• Voluntary Intoxication: Mental states caused by the use of alcohol or illegal drugs at the time of the crime do not qualify for an insanity defense.
• Transitory Emotional States: Feelings of extreme rage, jealousy, or "temporary" aggression without an underlying major mental disorder typically do not meet the legal standard for insanity.

His client was probably using drugs and/or alcohol prior to the murders. And he had longstanding Feelings of Extreme Rage/Aggression during this time.

So it will be difficult to prove that his murderous actions were the result of schizophrenia and not something exacerbated by Extreme Rage and Meth and Tequila.

When you add up: "you don't want to set me off" with told to leave the party and public argument with Rob, resulting in two murdered parents

... there's not a lot of doubt about what happened.

It's uncontrolled bad temper, not delusions or medication.

 

[Sundog]

Nick did not stand silent, he agreed to postpone a speedy arraignment. According to AJ, Nick was not medically cleared to participate, make decisions about his case. Next court date Jan 7.
Gives AJ time to look into case evidence so far, decide direction.

1. If enough Evidence of insanity, mental illness, psych meds. At arraignment, Nick to plead Not Guilty, Insanity plea. NGRI

2. Or, if AJ does not think he can “prove” insanity, then Nick to plea Not Guilty, AJ threaten to or actually go to trial. If AJ goes this way, The Mental Health issues would go to mitigation.

It's possible the arraignment will be postponed again on January 7th if NR is deemed incompetent to stand trial at that point. The court may have to schedule ongoing hearing dates until such time as NR is ruled competent to stand trial. It's possible that it could take a while.

 

[otto]

@Sadi ... I read somewhere that the hotel room was cleaned before police arrived ... looking for the link

 

[otto]

Police arrived to do a welfare check at 1 AM Monday.
The room was cleaned by staff on Sunday morning.

Blood in the shower and bedsheets does not suggest murder, or justify a phone call to police.

"A law enforcement source, along with two other people with direct knowledge, tell TMZ ... a Robbery-Homicide detective showed up at The Pierside Santa Monica hotel Monday around 1 AM, telling the front desk clerk he was there to do a welfare check on Nick Reiner, who was staying in room 207.
...

TMZ broke the story … a housekeeper cleaned up Nick's room late Sunday morning, where she discovered blood in the shower as well as blood on the bedsheets."

Police Searched Nick Reiner's Hotel Room for Murder Weapon in Reiner Murders

An LAPD Robbery-Homicide detective showed up at the hotel where Nick Reiner was staying … looking for a weapon, blood, and other evidence connected to the murders of Rob and Michele Reiner … TMZ has learned.

www.tmz.com