CA - Murder victims Identified as Rob Reiner and wife Michele - LA Dec 14 2025

[Chimera]

At 15 years old, there are many teens who have said I hate my parents. My mom is my best friend now but in high school we argued tons and I recall I told her I hated her several times. i also recall many of my friends saying the same thing. Did we mean it? Most likely not. When my son was in middle school and I grounded him he also told me he hated me. I think it is more common than not so in my opinion, this is just more of a smear campaign and money grabbing ploy. I wonder if this roommate made any money from his interviews? MOO

I Hate My Mom: Underlying Emotions Behind Your Child's Words

Children may lash out when coping with strong emotions. Practicing empathy and reinforcing boundaries may help them communicate in healthier ways.

psychcentral.com

Yes I understand what you're saying. ^^^

Except this thread is about Nick and Nick only, and no one else.

Other teens or young adult or even older may express these feelings, and sometimes it's just words that will pass.
In Nick's case the up close and personal nature of the murders speaks to a long-simmering rage that other young people may not hold.

I'm not ready to give Nick a pass for what he did, but that's only my opinion; his parents tried to get him help and never gave up on him until the moment they were brutally snuffed from the world.

Thinking about the first responders who had to deal with the carnage and remove the remains of Rob and Michele, wonder if they needed any professional counseling afterwards ?

Doubt it's a smear campaign by the roommate, it sounded like a true testimony of what they heard Nick say; but again anything's possible.
It's just that many other accounts paint a picture of a troubled Nick, and not just the roommate; from reading the posts on this thread.
Omo.

 

[Chimera]

Right? I am waiting for the door dash driver that delivered his last pizza to give an interview about the interaction.

Thanks for reminding us about that. !
I'd completely forgotten about Nick's DoorDash that night.
Wonder what Nick's demeanor was ?
Calm, ordinary ?
Imo.

 

[Chimera]

Also, I'm quite sure I heard Harvey Levin - who broke the schizophrenia story - casually referring to a diagnosis of schizo-affective disorder instead. Surely, this change isn't just anecdotal and maybe it has something to do with the taking down of the video.

Diagnosing NR over the years has probably been difficult and "very complex". Perhaps multiple doctors had differing opinions. And NR has his own.

Speaking of which... How would a man last seen asking famous people what their name was and if they were famous react to a famous and "very high profile lawyer" dropping everything to defend him, the son of the very famous parents he's accused of stabbing to death, I wonder after reading about the smirking in the courtroom.

Sounds to me like AJ wanted to protect a client from complete self destruction, while the client wants to own/explain or totally deny what he did. JMHO.

Bbm.
First bolded : IF Harvey Levin doesn't know this himself for sure, it must be taken with the proverbial grain.
Nick may be suddenly schizophrenic after the recent med change, or he may not.
His actions showed a planning to conceal what he'd done after the murders; which may come into play during the trial ?
If there is one, it's a little unclear at the moment.

Second bolded :
Wanted to add to your comment that regardless of which doctors treated Nick or what they prescribed --- IF Nick didn't take his meds, or added street drugs to them, it's almost impossible to definitively declare a diagnosis of anything for certain.
A lot of IDK's about this case.
Omo.

 

[MistyWaters]

I appreciate your opinion. The beauty of having a12 person jury is that the team will have differing opinions that can be all expressed and heard about Nick. This is the democratic way. One person's view point doesn't decide someone's fate. Everyone can listen to differing judgments and experiences. I like how websleuthers can present factual articles and even personal experiences in which everyone can learn from and even if they are ones you might not agree with. IMO

It’s too soon to form a knowledgeable opinion because we know nothing of the evidence which the prosecution has gathered. Heck, NR hasn’t even presented a plea yet so it’s impossible to predict the outcome of this case.
JMO

 

[MistyWaters]

Also, I'm quite sure I heard Harvey Levin - who broke the schizophrenia story - casually referring to a diagnosis of schizo-affective disorder instead. Surely, this change isn't just anecdotal and maybe it has something to do with the taking down of the video.

Diagnosing NR over the years has probably been difficult and "very complex". Perhaps multiple doctors had differing opinions. And NR has his own.

Speaking of which... How would a man last seen asking famous people what their name was and if they were famous react to a famous and "very high profile lawyer" dropping everything to defend him, the son of the very famous parents he's accused of stabbing to death, I wonder after reading about the smirking in the courtroom.

Sounds to me like AJ wanted to protect a client from complete self destruction, while the client wants to own/explain or totally deny what he did. JMHO.

That wouldn’t surprise me either. It’s been mentioned in various new reports NR acknowledges that he killed his parents so he obviously had a reason. My money would be on they informed him they were about to pursue a mental health conservatorship once again and he flew into an uncontrollable rage. This could also be a reason he has no intention of pleading NGRI.
JMO

 

[lohrtabitha]

Yes I understand what you're saying. ^^^

Except this thread is about Nick and Nick only, and no one else.

Other teens or young adult or even older may express these feelings, and sometimes it's just words that will pass.
In Nick's case the up close and personal nature of the murders speaks to a long-simmering rage that other young people may not hold.

I'm not ready to give Nick a pass for what he did, but that's only my opinion; his parents tried to get him help and never gave up on him until the moment they were brutally snuffed from the world.

Thinking about the first responders who had to deal with the carnage and remove the remains of Rob and Michele, wonder if they needed any professional counseling afterwards ?

Doubt it's a smear campaign by the roommate, it sounded like a true testimony of what they heard Nick say; but again anything's possible.
It's just that many other accounts paint a picture of a troubled Nick, and not just the roommate; from reading the posts on this thread.
Omo.

If you listened to the YouTube video this is referring to, Nick and his roommate who claimed Nick hated his parents were only 15 years old

 

[su5ie]

At 15 years old, there are many teens who have said I hate my parents. My mom is my best friend now but in high school we argued tons and I recall I told her I hated her several times. i also recall many of my friends saying the same thing. Did we mean it? Most likely not. When my son was in middle school and I grounded him he also told me he hated me. I think it is more common than not so in my opinion, this is just more of a smear campaign and money grabbing ploy. I wonder if this roommate made any money from his interviews? MOO

I Hate My Mom: Underlying Emotions Behind Your Child's Words

Children may lash out when coping with strong emotions. Practicing empathy and reinforcing boundaries may help them communicate in healthier ways.

psychcentral.com

I hate my parents = my parents are not allowing me to do as I please so normally the exclamation that is heard from numerous teens the world over is because the teen hates the boundary being put in place by the parent . Normally we look back and see our parents were trying to protect us

I feel nick resented his parents for who they where good people with love to give , I think they represented everything nick could be and that's why he hated them imo only

 

[lohrtabitha]

Yes I understand what you're saying. ^^^

Except this thread is about Nick and Nick only, and no one else.

Other teens or young adult or even older may express these feelings, and sometimes it's just words that will pass.
In Nick's case the up close and personal nature of the murders speaks to a long-simmering rage that other young people may not hold.

I'm not ready to give Nick a pass for what he did, but that's only my opinion; his parents tried to get him help and never gave up on him until the moment they were brutally snuffed from the world.

Thinking about the first responders who had to deal with the carnage and remove the remains of Rob and Michele, wonder if they needed any professional counseling afterwards ?

Doubt it's a smear campaign by the roommate, it sounded like a true testimony of what they heard Nick say; but again anything's possible.
It's just that many other accounts paint a picture of a troubled Nick, and not just the roommate; from reading the posts on this thread.
Omo.

We dont know this. We don't have all the facts. Everything is speculation.

 

[freudianslip]

Bbm.
First bolded : IF Harvey Levin doesn't know this himself for sure, it must be taken with the proverbial grain.
Nick may be suddenly schizophrenic after the recent med change, or he may not.
His actions showed a planning to conceal what he'd done after the murders; which may come into play during the trial ?
If there is one, it's a little unclear at the moment.

Second bolded :
Wanted to add to your comment that regardless of which doctors treated Nick or what they prescribed --- IF Nick didn't take his meds, or added street drugs to them, it's almost impossible to definitively declare a diagnosis of anything for certain.
A lot of IDK's about this case.
Omo.

I agree. It seems to me it was put out there in the context of a defense strategy, when AJ was in charge.
NR put a lot of unfortunate and damaging words out there, in Being Charlie and in his interviews on the Dopey podcast. I guess an effective defense would've needed to level the playing field as soon and as much as possible.
We really don't know much at all IMO.

 

[Chimera]

We dont know this. We don't have all the facts. Everything is speculation.

I was agreeing with you, maybe re-read my post ?
The media paints a troubling picture but even if there was a media blackout or just very little information as in some cases, the end result is horrifying.
When someone shows you what they are, believe them.
A truism, so to speak.
Imo.

 

[lohrtabitha]

Yes I understand what you're saying. ^^^

Except this thread is about Nick and Nick only, and no one else.

Other teens or young adult or even older may express these feelings, and sometimes it's just words that will pass.
In Nick's case the up close and personal nature of the murders speaks to a long-simmering rage that other young people may not hold.

I'm not ready to give Nick a pass for what he did, but that's only my opinion; his parents tried to get him help and never gave up on him until the moment they were brutally snuffed from the world.

Thinking about the first responders who had to deal with the carnage and remove the remains of Rob and Michele, wonder if they needed any professional counseling afterwards ?

Doubt it's a smear campaign by the roommate, it sounded like a true testimony of what they heard Nick say; but again anything's possible.
It's just that many other accounts paint a picture of a troubled Nick, and not just the roommate; from reading the posts on this thread.
Omo.

We dont know this. We don't have all the facts. Everything is speculation

I was agreeing with you, maybe re-read my post ?
The media paints a troubling picture but even if there was a media blackout or just very little information as in some cases, the end result is horrifying.
When someone shows you what they are, believe them.
A truism, so to speak.
Imo.

Gotcha. I re-read and listen I don't want to give Nick a pass. I want him to do the therapy work, the drug treatment, and forced psychiatric medicine for life. If prison can effectively do all three of these things for him with no release, then I am for it. If they can't, I want him in a psychiatric treatment center where they can do this and politics are now involved in institutionalization for murderers so I am sure he would spend his dying days there as well. Imo

 

[Chimera]

When parents get brutally murdered by their 32 yr old son, I would think that remarks made by him starting as a teen and onward about how he hated his parents would be evidence that would be presented at trial, along with all the other evidence.

Not all teens that said they hated their parents grew up to brutally murder them.

moo

Bbm.
Quoting this as it seems important !
Wonder if anyone from Nick's past will be called to testify ?

If you listened to the YouTube video this is referring to, Nick and his roommate who claimed Nick hated his parents were only 15 years old

Agreed, yes I did listen to it, it was a sad video.
The prosecutor would have the right to introduce evidence even from years ago, so that has to be taken into consideration.

Part of Nicks' actions seem premeditated and that may influence his sentence.

If he hadn't murdered the two people who demonstrably and unfailingly loved him, one might think he needed a short stint in a mental facility.

But with the brutal deaths of the Reiners people can understand how he may need locking away in prison, for the rest of his life, lest he target someone else ?
Which with Nick's propensity to blame others ... is a sad possibility.
Jmo.

 

[Chimera]

We dont know this. We don't have all the facts. Everything is speculation

Gotcha. I re-read and listen I don't want to give Nick a pass. I want him to do the therapy work, the drug treatment, and forced psychiatric medicine for life. If prison can effectively do all three of these things for him with no release, then I am for it. If they can't, I want him in a psychiatric treatment center where they can do this and politics are now involved in institutionalization for murderers so I am sure he would spend his dying days there as well. Imo

Bbm.
Agreed 100 %.

 

[MistyWaters]

We dont know this. We don't have all the facts. Everything is speculation.

Stabbing to death is known to be to close and personal because the perp it literally eye to eye to the victim if wounds are in the chest area, possibly holding them down, as opposed to using a gun from a distance but never touching the victim.

Although details have not been revealed, words such as grisly, brutal, bloody and multiple stab wounds have all been expressed, describing the violence found at the scene.

That all points to rage. If NR presented himself in the bedroom peacefully, there’s a good chance one if not both of his parents might’ve survived.
JMO

 

[LinasK]

It’s not that simple, the reason has already been hashed over. Merely being diagnosed with schizophrenia does not automatically deem a person must’ve been ‘legally insane’ at the time they committed murder. If the prosecution is able to prove NR deliberately murdered his parents that doesn’t qualify for a NGRI defense and he should be found guilty of two counts of homicide.

It’s absolutely a sad state of affairs when two people have to sacrifice their lives in order for their son to receive mental health treatment in a hospital when he can receive medication in prison. This isn’t about making him well, sadly there’s no cure and there’s no going back.
JMO

Agreed! I think it's gonna be a flat out Not Guilty plea by him rather than an NGRI. That's a very high bar to clear in CA, and personally I don't think Nick wants that label. I hope he gets LIFE in Prison with no parole so that he never gets out.

 

[LinasK]

I was agreeing with you, maybe re-read my post ?
The media paints a troubling picture but even if there was a media blackout or just very little information as in some cases, the end result is horrifying.
When someone shows you what they are, believe them.
A truism, so to speak.
Imo.

Exactly! Why should we dismiss as flippant the attitude of a 15-year-old merely because they are 15? Suddenly they have no credibility?

 

[MistyWaters]

Agreed! I think it's gonna be a flat out Not Guilty plea by him rather than an NGRI. That's a very high bar to clear in CA, and personally I don't think Nick wants that label. I hope he gets LIFE in Prison with no parole so that he never gets out.

I agree. Besides his one year mental health conservatorship in 2020 didn’t straighten him out, so what’s the point of forcing him to waste a bed in a psychiatric treatment centre? I’m sure there are others who are genuinely seeking treatment, who deserve that bed more than him.
JMO

 

[BUF]

Although details have not been revealed, words such as grisly, brutal, bloody and multiple stab wounds have all been expressed, describing the violence found at the scene.

That all points to rage.

Yes, it sounds like total rage to me. Part of me hopes that his parents were asleep, so they didn’t see their son who they loved doing this to them….but it’s not sounding like they were.

There is a reason they didn’t want their autopsies released as it would show how many times they were stabbed with the knife he used and if there were defensive wounds on them for fighting back.