CA - Pacific Palisades - 30,000 People Ordered to Evacuate From L.A. Wildfires #2

  • #421
With fires like this, the worst part is the smoke. Even 200 miles away, you feel like it is oppressive. Grey, hazy, choking air. And these fires have so many other chemicals, with cars, homes, businesses burned.

California needs all of that snow in Louisiana.
No, just rain and wind to clear it out. We had the same bad quality when the fires were here in Northern CA in 2018.
 
  • #422
Fire Fighters have been battling all these fires since January 7th. They are truly Heroes. Prayers for them. Hopes that the weather change will finally stop new fires from erupting.

KTLA meteorologist Henry DiCarlo, however, expressed confidence that the storm will not bring enough precipitation to cause major trouble.

“We’re going to get our share of rain, which is good because it signals a change,” said DiCarlo.
“It may not be a lot, but that is also good because we don’t want slides in those burn areas.”
I was just thinking the exact same thing. They must be so exhausted. These people are heroes.
 
  • #423
No, just rain and wind to clear it out. We had the same bad quality when the fires were here in Northern CA in 2018.
The only one of those areas that would normally get snow, would be the Hughes fire in the Grapevine area of I5.
 
  • #424

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  • #425
Three names just added to the victim list.


Betty O'Meara, 94, was a victim of the Palisades fire.

Lora Swayne, 71, was a victim of the Eaton fire.

Barbara Lewis, 84, was a victim of the Eaton fire.

No further information about these victims at this time.

Lora was on the list of seventeen, Betty and Barbara were not.

This brings the list of named victims to twenty four.
Fifteen from the Eaton fire, nine from the Palisades fire.

MOO
 
  • #426
  • #427
"Touching video of Melania Trump
speaking Slovenian and Serbian to wildfire victims.

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A commenter translated their exchange,
revealing the woman introduced herself in Serbian,
mentioning she had lived in California since childhood.

Melania asked about her family,
and the woman replied, mixing Serbian and Slovenian, that she had two sons."

 
  • #428
"Touching video of Melania Trump
speaking Slovenian and Serbian to wildfire victims.

View attachment 560280

A commenter translated their exchange,
revealing the woman introduced herself in Serbian,
mentioning she had lived in California since childhood.

Melania asked about her family,
and the woman replied, mixing Serbian and Slovenian, that she had two sons."

A special moment as the President and First Lady met with officials, firefighters and fire victims during their trip to Southern California yesterday.
 
  • #429
  • #430
Musicians mourning the loss of instruments and scores ... one managed to save the 100 year old violin his father gave him.


Paul Bryan, a music producer, recording and mixing engineer and longtime bassist for Aimee Mann, who lost his home, studio and a number of vintage instruments including a 19th-century Steinway piano and tape relay keyboards

The losses range from the personal to the historic, including the 1928 Steinway from the MGM scoring stage where The Wizard of Oz was recorded ..... Starr Parodi, a composer and producer who bought the piano when she was working on the Arsenio Hall Show. “I probably would have wanted to keep that more than my house, honestly.”

Charlie Bisharat ... he grabbed his computer, passport and French violin his dad bought for him when he was 10. The violin is more than 100 years old.

.. composer Juhi Bansal had been working on a commission for The Thirteen choir and orchestra in Washington DC that touched on themes about immigrant experiences ... lost the piece in the Eaton fire.

David O, musical director for Broadway’s Mr Saturday Night, lost his home in the Eaton fire, including a career’s worth of instruments, scores and photographs.

Groups such as the Sweet Relief Musicians Fund are offering grants to affected musicians.


 
  • #431
"Gavin Newsom has signed a $2.5bn relief package to help areas of Los Angeles recover from the devastating fires that have been burning for nearly two weeks.

The money is meant to speed up the cleanup and debris-removal processes in the areas levelled by those two fires. It will also go toward the inspection permits needed to rebuild schools and homes ..... "

 
  • #432
A few years ago a friend and her husband went on their annual camping trip to the Sierra, where she described the landscape as if someone had thrown up pepto bismal everywhere. She had concerns it might be unsafe to hike but the area had no cell reception to check the facts out. Her husband reassured her fire retardant wouldn't be used if it were unsafe for humans (hiking and camping was his thing.)

Here's a 2023 article on it's use in California.


Now, a federal lawsuit in Montana that seeks to stop the U.S. Forest Service from dropping retardant into water could reshape how the agency battles wildfires throughout the western United States.

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The lawsuit, filed by the Forest Service Employees for Environmental Ethics, of which Stahl is executive director, accuses the Forest Service of violating the Clean Water Act, which prohibits the discharge of pollutants into U.S. waters without a permit.

The action comes as more retardant is being dropped from the air than ever before amid longer, more active fire seasons. In 2021, 52.8 million gallons of retardant were dumped on federal, state and private land, compared with a 10-year average of about 39 million gallons per year, according to figures provided by the Forest Service. More than half of the retardant the Forest Service used on national forest lands was dropped in California — more than any other state.

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The Camp fire was the deadliest wildfire in California history, killing 84 people. Although retardant was unable to be used to save Paradise because the blaze moved too quickly, generating 100-mph winds and thick clouds of black smoke that grounded air tankers, retardant did stop the flames from spreading to nearby Chico and Durham, Bolin said.
 
  • #433
"Touching video of Melania Trump
speaking Slovenian and Serbian to wildfire victims.

View attachment 560280

A commenter translated their exchange,
revealing the woman introduced herself in Serbian,
mentioning she had lived in California since childhood.

Melania asked about her family,
and the woman replied, mixing Serbian and Slovenian, that she had two sons."

Such a simple action, yet one that matters so much, one human to another to show compassion. I can only imagine when one is in shock, hurting, having someone speak to them in the language they grew up with must have been great comfort to them. JMO
 
  • #434
"Touching video of Melania Trump
speaking Slovenian and Serbian to wildfire victims.

View attachment 560280

A commenter translated their exchange,
revealing the woman introduced herself in Serbian,
mentioning she had lived in California since childhood.

Melania asked about her family,
and the woman replied, mixing Serbian and Slovenian, that she had two sons."

Very good. It's important the victims feel seen, heard and supported.
 
  • #435
Oh, thank goodness! Hoping enough has been done to avoid mudslides too. But, I think, at this point the biggest priority is for the fires to be extinguished ... because they spread.


"Much of fire weary Southern California received relief in the form of rain over the weekend, bringing the fires surrounding Los Angeles nearer to complete containment.

The Eaton, Palisades, Hughes, and Laguna fires all stand at over 85% containment as of Sunday morning, according to Cal Fire.

The Border 2 Fire near San Diego is the only fire currently less than 50% contained."



Incident Containment
Palisades Fire = 87%
Eaton Fire = 95%
Hughes Fire = 92%
Border 2 Fire = 10%
Laguna Fire = 98%

 
  • #436
Inland inner city San Diego, we got a steady, gentle rain where everything got wet, but certainly not heavy enough to cause mud slides. Wonderful to get some rain.

Rains Bring Optimism, Relief to Crews Fighting Border 2 Fire

“Rainfall overnight and into the morning
hours has led to a substantial decrease in fire activity,” Cal Fire said in an update on Sunday afternoon.

_________________________________

Evacuation orders lifted for some residents near Border 2 Fire -
Updated: Jan 26, 2025 / 01:12 PM PST
Will rain showers affect the Border 2 Fire response?
 
  • #437
"Gavin Newsom has signed a $2.5bn relief package to help areas of Los Angeles recover from the devastating fires that have been burning for nearly two weeks.

The money is meant to speed up the cleanup and debris-removal processes in the areas levelled by those two fires. It will also go toward the inspection permits needed to rebuild schools and homes ..... "

Private contractor, $170,000 for home debris removal.
US Army Corp Engineers will do it for free, it can take up to 18 months.
Does insurance pay for this clean-up?

"Sherman revealed that the average cost of debris removal for homes from another recent fire was $170,000 — a potential factor for residents who are looking to hire a private contractor to clear their lots.

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is offering to clear away the debris at no charge. Residents can opt in or out of the government service.
rk Pestrella, the director of Los Angeles County Public Works, encouraged neighbors to work together to sign up for the public debris removal process, explaining that it will be faster if there are clusters of homes. At a meeting last week hosted by the Palisades Pacific Community Council, officials said the debris removal process would take up to 18 months."



 
  • #438
"Deadly LA wildfires
spark wake-up call for red state as experts make grim prediction and reveal biggest threat.

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Experts are sounding the alarm for Louisiana residents
and warning the Bayou State - traditionally known for its lush wetlands – could be next.

The South already experiences more wildfires annually than any other region across the country.

And alarming statistics show a dramatic escalation in Louisiana in recent years.

Louisiana previously had an average of 700-1,000 wildfires per year.
But Louisiana Department of Agriculture and Forestry Commissioner Mike Strain said
'over the years, we have seen the number of wildfires increase'.

- In 2020, there were 328 fires.
- The next year, the number increased to 441 fires.
- By 2022 there was 1,211 fires
- and by 2023 there were over 1,300 fires.
The 2023 surge came after the state's extreme summer drought.

The mammoth Tiger Island Fire alone devastated more than 31,000 acres across the state's rural western region."

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Pictured: Louisiana's Tiger Island Fire

 
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  • #439
Private contractor, $170,000 for home debris removal.
US Army Corp Engineers will do it for free, it can take up to 18 months.
Does insurance pay for this clean-up?

"Sherman revealed that the average cost of debris removal for homes from another recent fire was $170,000 — a potential factor for residents who are looking to hire a private contractor to clear their lots.

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is offering to clear away the debris at no charge. Residents can opt in or out of the government service.
rk Pestrella, the director of Los Angeles County Public Works, encouraged neighbors to work together to sign up for the public debris removal process, explaining that it will be faster if there are clusters of homes. At a meeting last week hosted by the Palisades Pacific Community Council, officials said the debris removal process would take up to 18 months."




I don't think the $2.5bn is just for debris removal, although (as per linked article) they do want to speed that up.


The proposals include $2.5 billion for the state's emergency disaster response efforts such as evacuations, sheltering survivors and removing household hazardous waste.

They also approved $4 million for local governments to streamline approvals for rebuilding homes, and $1 million to support school districts and help them rebuild facilities.


 
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