CA - Pacific Palisades - 30,000 People Ordered to Evacuate From L.A. Wildfires #2

  • #101
I had wondered why they hadn't used them the first night of the fires. Turns out that they were grounded because the winds were too high to fly safely.
Salt water is also kind of a last resort thing, for a variety of reasons.

MOO
 
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  • #103
Salt water is also kind of a last resort thing, for a variety of reasons.

MOO
Yes, it's tragic because many of the Malibu homes at least were off Pacific Coast Highway and the ocean is right there, but ocean water can screw up the salinity of the ground.
 
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Looks like they're on top of it, though - there's a huge amount less flames than there was even half an hour ago, and they seem to be in isolated patches, not all joined up in one line pushing forward.

It's most clear here on CBS where they're showing side by sides with live footage compared with some from earlier.

MOO
 
  • #106
“Being able to be there for someone on their worst day, that’s an honor,” former inmate turned firefighter says

LA County Parks Care Camps requesting donations

Huge demand for nappies and baby food

Music catalog of famed composer Arnold Schoenberg destroyed in fire

Forward progress of Auto Fire in Ventura County halted, but it remains at 0% containment

This article names another Altadena victim I hadn't heard of before. Kim Winiecki, 77, had been a resident of the community for 35 years. She was a deeply private person, especially about her home. She was offered a ride out by a friend but refused it, wanting to stay and ride out the crisis.
 
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  • #107

Good news as newest fire stopped from advancing​


A fire truck surrounded by flames and an orange sky
IMAGE SOURCE, @VCFD_PIO
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Ventura County Fire Department shared clips of the fire on their X account
A new fire, known as the Auto Fire, broke out in Los Angeles on Monday evening.

The brush fire was first reported at 19:45 (03:45) local time in Ventura County, north-west of the city.

It was small, but grew to nearly 56 acres in the last few hours and officials says it was not contained at all.

But at shortly after midnight (08:00 GMT), Ventura County Fire Department posted on X: "Forward progress on the Auto fire has been stopped. The fire has been mapped at 55.7 acres with 0% containment.

Firefighters remain on scene mopping up hotspots and working to increase containment, they add.

 
  • #108

'We now refer to it as a fire year', says fire official​


With winds predicted to increase in LA overnight and throughout the day, a Californian fire service official says they're on standby for fires most likely in the area between Ventura Valley and San Diego.

Cal Fire spokesperson David Acuna also tells CNN the threat posed by wildfires is unlikely to disappear anytime soon.

Asked what the risk is for the coming weeks and months, he says the fire service has now abandoned the term "fire season", meaning the time of year when wildfires are most likely. "We now refer to it as fire year," he says.

 
  • #109

Watch: Looters enter home and police arrest arson suspect​


LA's police forces continue to deal with reports of looting and arson, and on Monday nine people were arrested for looting, as well as one person for arson at a local park.

Los Angeles Police Department shared footage showing looting inside one home, as well as the arson suspect being arrested. They are warning that maximum sentences will be handed out to anyone convicted.

[video at link]

Watch: LA County District Attorney releases footage of LA looters and arson suspect arrest

 
  • #110

Four 'currently active incidents', California fire department says​


A neighbourhood destroyed by fire in Palisades
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The fire that consumed much of Palisades is yet to be fully contained

As of this morning there are four “active incidents” across the city of LA, according to CAL Fire - the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection:

  • The Palisades Fire - the first and largest to have struck LA - is at only 14% containment (the percentage of the fire's perimeter which firefighters are confident it won't spread further). CAL Fire says it has consumed 23,713 acres of land so far
  • The other large wildfire site, called Eaton Fire slightly further east, is at 33% containment. This has reportedly consumed just over 14,000 acres
  • One other smaller fire, the Hurst Fire, covering 799 acres is nearly fully contained, at 97%
  • And, CAL Fire says that the much smaller Auto Fire, which has consumed five acres to the west of Palisades is not yet contained at all
We’ll continue to bring you updates on this, as a red flag warning remains across much of Southern California, and weather forecasters predict that high winds are set to increase the spread of flames across the city.

 
  • #111

Latest photos from LA as fire threat still critical​


It's coming up to 23:00 in the Los Angeles area - and in recent hours more than 8,500 firefighters have been working to attack the fires ahead of dangerous weather conditions coming overnight.

Here are some of the latest photos from the region:

A man in a puffer jacket positions a woman's arms as she points a gun and looks ahead
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Mike Leroy, left, shows neighbour Maggie Mollett how to hold a gun in Altadena, as some people stay behind despite evacuation notices to protect their and their neighbours' homes from fire damage and looters

Hot pink gas coming out the bottom of a plane as it flies over a hill
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Also near Altadena, a plane drops pink fire retardant during the Eaton Fire, which fire agencies say is an invaluable tool

Firefighters from Mexico hike to their destination to cut a containment line in the Tarzana area during the Palisades Fire in Los Angeles,
IMAGE SOURCE, REUTERS
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Firefighters from Mexico head to contain a fire in the Tarzana area during the Palisades Fire - the country's firefighters have been helping their American counterparts

 
  • #112

Winds could be strong enough to rapidly spread fires​

Sarah Keith-Lucas
BBC Weather presenter

Widespread critical fire weather conditions are expected across the fire-hit areas in California, with strong Santa Ana winds peaking Tuesday through to the middle of Wednesday.

Strong Santa Anna winds will blow from the north-east, at sustained speeds of 30 to 40mph, with gusts between 55 and 75mph likely.

The winds will bring very dry air, with humidity levels of only 10% or less.

Compared to last week, the winds are weaker, but still strong, with more of a focus towards Ventura County.

The winds will be strong enough to allow fires to spread rapidly and so PDS (particularly dangerous situation) red flag warnings have once again been issued for Ventura and Los Angeles counties.

The rare combination of extremely low humidity and very strong winds will support extremely critical fire-weather conditions much of Tuesday.

The 'particularly dangerous situation' warning from the weather service that urges people to take immediate action
IMAGE SOURCE, NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE

 
  • #113
The threat is not as bad as up in the LA area, but any fire threat with the strong San Ana winds causes concern.

Red Flag Warning issued for San Diego County amid more Santa Ana winds; thousands could have power shut off

Thankfully, today the fire at Miramar Air Base was put out quickly.
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San Diego on high alert as fire threat increases with wind, dry conditions | CBS 8 Team Coverage

 
  • #114
Interview with one of the many vets stepping up and providing all free care and support to animals affected by the fires. Three puppers there for checkups, no images of injured animals.

Jimmy Kimmel Live is one of the few entertainment productions to have resumed. They've turned their backlot into a donation centre.

Article by the AP about the role embers play in wildfires. Good pictures.

Star of Palawoo is lit up to give hope to Altadena

This short piece from the Guardian's liveblog has a much broader and more comprehensive map of the Red Flag/PDS areas than the one above, courtesy of the National Weather Service.
 
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Warning for 'particularly dangerous situation' comes into forcepublished at 07:06
07:06​

It has gone 04:00 in LA, meaning a red flag warning - plus a warning of a "particularly dangerous situation" - have come into force from the National Weather Service, lasting until 12:00 on Wednesday.

Where does it cover? The red flag warning is marked in red below, covering much of Los Angeles and Ventura counties, and into the mountains of San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara counties.

The "particularly dangerous situation" warning covers two smaller areas - the Ventura County Valleys, Western San Fernando Valley and Ventura County Coast, and also the I-5 Corridor.

What does it mean? The larger red flag warning says there will be wind gusts of up to 70mph and a high risk for large fires with very rapid fire spread and extreme fire behaviour.

There is good news, thought - "this wind event is not expected to be as strong and destructive as last week's windstorm".

But in the particularly dangerous situation area, it means if fire alights, there could be extreme fire behaviour "that would threaten life and property".

A map showing where warnings are in place in California
Image source,National Weather Service


 
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The absolute champions risking their lives to save large animals and livestock from the fires. Horses, sheep, goats, emus, donkeys, ducks, chickens, and an enormous pig named Fancypants.

Best Friends Animal Society is helping move animals out of the local system to fostering further away to relieve strain on shelters.

Wind gusts today could ground air firefighting crews

This news spot is about the firefighting aircraft, and it shows them up close. It's very interesting.

Excellent Washington Post article about the recovery efforts in the worst hit areas. Especially recommended for those of us with an interest in forensics related to human remains, like myself.
Searching for the dead in the ruins of Altadena is slow, methodical work. It can be difficult to identify human remains amid the ash and wreckage of a burned-out home, much of it coated in a uniform gray.
 
  • #119
  • #120
For reference, Santa Ana winds blow generally east to west. Hot air rises over the deserts, then "falls" down the cooler western sides of the coastal ranges.

Its relatively rare to see them blow full strength for a week at a time. Usually, they just lasted say, 2-3 days in San Diego.
I can't speak for your location, but our fires caused their own weather. Literally a firestorm of winds 75 mph which we do not ever have. All caused by the fire itself. Could this be what is occurring?
 

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