CA - Pacific Palisades - 30,000 People Ordered to Evacuate From L.A. Wildfires

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The Pico Rivera Sports Arena is open and accepting evacuated large animals and livestock displaced by the wildfires.

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Shelters, centers welcome pets, livestock as fires threaten LA County homes

Community shelters and centers, such as the Pasadena Humane Society and Pico Rivera Sports Arena, continue to provide services and support to owners, pets, and livestock affected by wildfires in Lo…
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Local news just reported that the 5 active fires add up to over FIVE THOUSAND structures burned to the ground, so far.

I'm sure the deaths will go up from the 7 so far.

There have been a few ARSON arrests. The latest fire, in Calasbasas area, very close to us, was arson. They just arrested the moron.

That's 5000+ homes, apartment buildings, stores/restaurants, offices, schools and churches.

360,000 have been evacuated. With 5000 burned buildings, there are going to be many thousands of displaced people, no homes/apartments, no jobs/workplaces, no schools, etc.

 
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keptbycats said:
It's actually common for CA firefighters to do 24 hour shifts (every other day/48hrs). They are typically not fighting fire that entire time, it is interspersed with rest time.
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I think that is common for firefighters in many, if not most, places --at least in the US, could be completely different elsewhere.
 
keptbycats said:
It's actually common for CA firefighters to do 24 hour shifts (every other day/48hrs). They are typically not fighting fire that entire time, it is interspersed with rest time.
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My father worked those shifts himself. That's under normal circumstances, hanging out at the firehouse. I'm not sure what they would have done if any big thing had happened on his watch.
 
JennieM said:
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An aircraft fighting the Palisades fire was hit by a drone on Thursday, according to the Federal Aviation Administration. LAFD fire chief Anthony Marrone told the Los Angeles Times that the “super scooper” – which can “scoop” water from nearby lakes and oceans to fight fires – was damaged, althgouh the plane landed safely.

He added that the FBI is planning to install “aerial armor” to prevent future drones from entering the firefighting zone.

“It’s a federal crime, punishable by up to 12 months in prison, to interfere with firefighting efforts on public lands,” the FAA said in a statement. “Additionally, the FAA can impose a civil penalty of up to $75,000 against any drone pilot who interferes with wildfire suppression, law enforcement or emergency response operations” during a temporary flight restriction.

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I also heard earlier this evening that the main reason they aren't scooping water out of the ocean is because of the straightline winds, which along with the surf would make it far too hazardous, at least at this time. The commentator who said it told about seeing a plane dump water, and then it was hit by a big wind gust that nearly flipped it over.
 
Herat said:
Based on my family's experience with the Caldor Fire in 2021 in the Tahoe region, having your home "saved" is still a disaster. Smoke damage to drywall, curtains, rugs, and furnishings cannot be cleaned and they have to be removed because of the toxins and burned chemicals in household fire smoke damage. Often the houses have to be stripped to the studs. If you happened to have fire insurance, it likely will not nearly cover the cost of this. In my family's case, all bedding had to be tossed, including mattresses, and very little clothing could be saved. That's a couble economic disaster if you have certain kinds of clothing and equipment you need for your job, like expensive safety boots and protective winter clothing and then you have to buy new mattresses and window coverings. Even worse if your vehicle is damaged, too.
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I read about people having to do that after the Fort McMurray, Alberta fire in 2016, in the spectacular book "Fire Weather."
 
In anticipation of the high winds, So Cal Edison shut off power to parts of our town. (This happens from time-to-time around here.) Some people have been without power going on 3 days. SCE is saying it will be out longer. This area was originally very heavily a retirement area with numerous retirement villages/trailer parks/homes. Many of these people rely on medical devices that require power. Generators have been hard to come by and some people are panicking. My family has been blessed with electricity, but my in-laws live in a retirement community that has been without power since Tuesday. All of their food is spoiled now and some of their neighbors are relocating so they can use their medical devices. Not everyone has that luxury. My brother-in-law lives in LA, rather close to the fires, and never lost power. Nothing about this craziness makes any sense. So many people are going to need help.
 
airportwoman said:
I also heard earlier this evening that the main reason they aren't scooping water out of the ocean is because of the straightline winds, which along with the surf would make it far too hazardous, at least at this time. The commentator who said it told about seeing a plane dump water, and then it was hit by a big wind gust that nearly flipped it over.
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The machines themselves aren't set up for salt water, either. It can cause damage and corrosion.

www.independent.co.uk

Here is why California can’t use ocean water to help fight the wildfires

Salt water can wreck a fire, but it can also wreck equipment and vegetation as well
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It's also not great for the land. It increases soil salinity and might kill or damage the plants that survive the actual fires.

MOO
 

Christian Swegal and his neighbours are doing what they can with buckets and minimal water (from a neighbour's hot tub and pools) to prevent the smouldering remains of homes spreading fire to standing homes. They keep flagging down fire trucks. Some will spray down hot spots, others can't spare the water. They give what advice they can, and drive on, leaving Christian with his shovel and bucket to try and save what he can.
 
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