GUILTY CA - Paul Pelosi, the speaker’s husband, violently attacked after assailant broke into their SF home, Oct 2022 *arrest*

[BeginnerSleuther]

NBC News PULLS report that Paul Pelosi did NOT say he was in danger

NBC News has pulled a bombshell report that claimed Paul Pelosi did not tell responding police officers that he was in danger just before he was injured in a hammer attack at his home.

www.dailymail.co.uk

• Sources claim Pelosi, 82, answered the door to police when they responded to his 911 call, but he did not say he was in distress or try to leave the home
• Instead, Pelosi smiled, said that everything was good and then walked back into the foyer where the assailant struck him with a hammer

It also appears the police didn't even know the home was Nancy Pelosi's? Really strange, if that's true. JMO

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The article says that NBC pulled the report. Maybe that's because the source's information couldn't be verified or it was just not true. MOO.

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Nancy Pelosi's husband survived a hammer-wielding intruder, but US politicians wonder who could be targeted next

 

[MajorHoople]

Suspect in Paul Pelosi Beating Is in the U.S. Illegally, DHS Confirms

NBC Bay Area - Nov 3, 2022

 

[Jillyg]

I've read reports that say there were ring cameras everywhere on the outside of the home. The home occupies a corner on a very steep incline. So I would hazard a guess that the house on the opposite corner would have ring cameras placed to observe activity on their own property. The grade of the street might make it difficult to observe activity around the Pilosi home. The ground floor of the home opposite looks to be even with the second floor of the Pilosi home.

Paul Pilosi is 82 years old. Maybe he's deaf and wears a hearing aid and if he's like my husband he takes it out at night so if alarms are set off he may not have heard it.

So many people are desperately trying to find some sort of 'tell' that this invasion and attack is a contrived affair choreographed by the Pilosi's; that PP used NP's absence to invite some guy into his home for something kinky because god forbid he was wearing underwear at 2:30 am. What do you guys wear at night in bed? I wear pjs and hubby goes commando.

I 've told this story before on WS. When I was 21 years old I was walking down Parliament St in Toronto around midnight with a female friend. I heard somebody walking behind us so we unconsciously moved over on the sidewalk to let them by. The person, a man, started walking beside us and spoke to us. We didn't understand what he said and we stopped. He had a gun and he stuck it in my side and asked us for our money. Because Parliament St around Bloor was a bit of a sketchy area we did not take any money with us. My friend, pulled her pockets inside out to illustrate we had no money. I was just looking at the gun. He dug the gun in my ribs and asked me where I lived. And this is where it gets crazy. I TOLD HIM. Now you might ask yourself why on earth did I do that. I have no idea why I did but it just goes to illustrate how people can react in stressful circumstances. I sure as hell wasn't inviting him into my home. It's become a humourous anecdote but the reality is it could have turned out a lot different.

So if PP was smiling and behaving in a manner that others consider odd, I always remember my very odd response to someone who pointed a gun at me.

Well then there's this..

NBC silent after retracting Paul Pelosi report under mysterious circumstances

NBC News is staying silent after it retracted its explosive reporting on the Paul Pelosi attack, fueling more questions than answers about last week's assault.

www.foxnews.com

 

[branmuffin]

Well then there's this..

NBC silent after retracting Paul Pelosi report under mysterious circumstances

NBC News is staying silent after it retracted its explosive reporting on the Paul Pelosi attack, fueling more questions than answers about last week's assault.

www.foxnews.com

What part of the retracted report was explosive? The part where SFPD had no idea they were attending the home of the speaker of the house? The part where PP walks back into the house after opening the door? I have no idea what his motive was to do that unless it was an unspoken invitation for LE to enter the home. When DD said everything's fine it kind of reminded me of Jeffrey Dahmer telling the cops that a naked young man running away from him was just a lover's quarrel.

At this point in time, I'm going to wait until the dust settles because we all know from past experiences that in the heat of the moment when events are happening there's a lot of misinformation that's bandied about. Uvalde is a classic example of that. At least Gov. Abbott seems to think so.

 

[Jillyg]

The Shermans that I mentioned earlier, the murdered billionaires? They had no live in maids or housekeeper. They had someone that came in to deal with the plants, and a housekeeper that came every Friday. The rest of the week, I presume the Shermans cleaned up after themselves. Honey was the daughter of a Holocaust survivor and was pretty pragmatic. They had expensive homes but drove fairly mundane vehicles. They had a place in Miami but flew economy. It's sounds like the Pelosis are cut from the same cloth.

What part of the retracted report was explosive? The part where SFPD had no idea they were attending the home of the speaker of the house? The part where PP walks back into the house after opening the door? I have no idea what his motive was to do that unless it was an unspoken invitation for LE to enter the home. When DD said everything's fine it kind of reminded me of Jeffrey Dahmer telling the cops that a naked young man running away from him was just a lover's quarrel.

At this point in time, I'm going to wait until the dust settles because we all know from past experiences that in the heat of the moment when events are happening there's a lot of misinformation that's bandied about. Uvalde is a classic example of that. At least Gov. Abbott seems to think so.

I think maybe the part about them being alone for 30 minutes.? Idk.

I haven't read any police report or court document that said that.

But I still have a million questions. <modsnip - off limits>

The window thing is not a mystery to me at all. It's very clear it was broken from the outside. In my opinion.

 

[mickey2942]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/03/politics/david-depape-paul-pelosi-attack/index.html

Interesting. An undocumented visa overstay. Normally, the immigration status of perpetrators is not readily available.

He came through San Ysidro, on the Southern border, visa overstay since 2008.

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

I think maybe the part about them being alone for 30 minutes.? Idk.

I haven't read any police report or court document that said that.

But I still have a million questions. <modsnip - off limits>

The window thing is not a mystery to me at all. It's very clear it was broken from the outside. In my opinion.

It could be the part about where he stepped back into the foyer, away from the police. Maybe his mental status was questioned because of that. Literally no one would go away from the police and toward the perp. imo That could be the part they got wrong. It would have been better for NBC to update the article.

NBC News PULLS report that Paul Pelosi did NOT say he was in danger

NBC News has pulled a bombshell report that claimed Paul Pelosi did not tell responding police officers that he was in danger just before he was injured in a hammer attack at his home.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The report claimed that Paul Pelosi did not declare an emergency or try to leave his San Francisco home when cops responded to his 911 call last week

It claimed that Pelosi took several steps away from police and back into the foyer where he was attacked by David DePape with a hammer

The NBC source also claimed that it was unclear if Pelosi was already injured or what his mental state was when he took steps back into the home

 

[sds71]

A network source told CNN it pulled the segment after the source of the report’s information was found to be unreliable.

“The decision was made to remove the segment after it was determined, shortly after it aired, that the main source for the information was unreliable regarding the question of the circumstances that the police encountered when they arrived at the house, specifically what the police saw and how far the attacker was from the door,” the source said.

NBC News pulls report on Paul Pelosi attack | CNN Business

NBC News on Friday pulled a report about the attack on Paul Pelosi that the network said did not meet its standards.

www.cnn.com

 

[Trebor5591]

Headline in linked story: "Prosecutors REFUSE to release police bodycam and surveillance footage from Pelosi's house at sealed court hearing"​

<modsnip - political>

Prosecutors REFUSE to release footage of Pelosi attack

District Attorney Brooke Jenkins - who defeated 'woke' DA Chesa Boudin in a recall earlier this year - refused to release details beyond what was already in court filings, including video of the attack.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Jillyg]

It could be the part about where he stepped back into the foyer, away from the police. Maybe his mental status was questioned because of that. Literally no one would go away from the police and toward the perp. imo That could be the part they got wrong. It would have been better for NBC to update the article.

NBC News PULLS report that Paul Pelosi did NOT say he was in danger

NBC News has pulled a bombshell report that claimed Paul Pelosi did not tell responding police officers that he was in danger just before he was injured in a hammer attack at his home.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The report claimed that Paul Pelosi did not declare an emergency or try to leave his San Francisco home when cops responded to his 911 call last week

It claimed that Pelosi took several steps away from police and back into the foyer where he was attacked by David DePape with a hammer

The NBC source also claimed that it was unclear if Pelosi was already injured or what his mental state was when he took steps back into the home

The court documents present him as under duress imo. To me IMO, that explains his being unclear in some aspects to authorities.

I have no idea where the part about him stepping back into the house towards the perp came from.

Read the document that reveals new details about the Pelosi attack

A filing by prosecutors in San Francisco revealed new details about the break-in at Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s home and the attack on her husband.

www.nytimes.com

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

It could be the part about where he stepped back into the foyer, away from the police. Maybe his mental status was questioned because of that. Literally no one would go away from the police and toward the perp. imo That could be the part they got wrong. It would have been better for NBC to update the article.

NBC News PULLS report that Paul Pelosi did NOT say he was in danger

NBC News has pulled a bombshell report that claimed Paul Pelosi did not tell responding police officers that he was in danger just before he was injured in a hammer attack at his home.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The report claimed that Paul Pelosi did not declare an emergency or try to leave his San Francisco home when cops responded to his 911 call last week

It claimed that Pelosi took several steps away from police and back into the foyer where he was attacked by David DePape with a hammer

The NBC source also claimed that it was unclear if Pelosi was already injured or what his mental state was when he took steps back into the home

But didn't NBC also pull the article because the source was supposedly unreliable? If that's true, why are we repeating it and acting like it's fact? I'm so confused.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

<modsnip - off limits>

Pelosi Attack: Alleged Assailant Hoped To Take Speaker Hostage

DePape spread conspiracy theories promoting the baseless QAnon claim the 2020 election was stolen, and posted a number of racist and antisemitic rants.

www.forbes.com

I'm not sure why the police have to release information they're not ready to release (and that will likely be released at trial) to justify anything here. They wouldn't have to in any other crime.

 

[branmuffin]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/03/politics/david-depape-paul-pelosi-attack/index.html

Interesting. An undocumented visa overstay. Normally, the immigration status of perpetrators is not readily available.

He came through San Ysidro, on the Southern border, visa overstay since 2008.

It doesn't say in that article that DD let a visa lapse which we have heard in the past. It just says he came in as a temporary visitor. So either he never had a visa and that is the incorrect information or he came in to the country the way many Canadians do. They show their passport and tell the guards how long they are staying. As long as it's within the 6 month deadline you are allowed to enter.

However, I did read the following article by the Associated Press that says DD entered the US over 20 years ago with a visa. He came and went several times and was never detained. It was probably smart of him to come through the Mexican border because the guards are more concerned about Illegals from Mexico and parts further south than a white person with a Canadian passport. It wasn't until 2003 I believe when the rules changed for Canadians coming across the border that they needed a valid passport. Passports last for 10 years so in 2008 he still had two years left on it. Having a lapsed visa probably wouldn't have been on their radar.

Paul Pelosi released from hospital a week after assault

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says her husband, Paul Pelosi, was released from the hospital Thursday after his treatment for injuries from a violent assault last week.

apnews.com

 

[mickey2942]

@branmuffin yes, a VISA overstay is really not a big deal for immigration. He was inspected on entry. As long as he never left, he could have actually done the paperwork to be a legal permanent resident, with a waiver.

Would be interesting to know how he supported himself in the United States for this length of time, without eligibility for work.

 

[LondonBloke]

Hmm.

 

[Ontario Mom]

@branmuffin yes, a VISA overstay is really not a big deal for immigration. He was inspected on entry. As long as he never left, he could have actually done the paperwork to be a legal permanent resident, with a waiver.

Would be interesting to know how he supported himself in the United States for this length of time, without eligibility for work.

I'm guessing he worked under the table more than anything else. Or just freeloaded his way through life.

jmo

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

@branmuffin yes, a VISA overstay is really not a big deal for immigration. He was inspected on entry. As long as he never left, he could have actually done the paperwork to be a legal permanent resident, with a waiver.

Would be interesting to know how he supported himself in the United States for this length of time, without eligibility for work.

I suppose he didn’t need much. He was likely selling his hemp jewelry while living in a Berkeley storage shed. Most recently he was living in a yellow school bus.

David Depape, Paul Pelosi Suspect: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

David Depape was identified by the San Francisco Chronicle as the suspect accused of attacking Paul Pelosi.

heavy.com

Paul Pelosi attacker David DePape lived in a school bus

The man accused of attacking Paul Pelosi with a hammer sometimes lived in a school bus and allegedly posted racist remarks and theories online.

nypost.com

 

[Betty P]

What part of the retracted report was explosive? The part where SFPD had no idea they were attending the home of the speaker of the house? The part where PP walks back into the house after opening the door? I have no idea what his motive was to do that unless it was an unspoken invitation for LE to enter the home. When DD said everything's fine it kind of reminded me of Jeffrey Dahmer telling the cops that a naked young man running away from him was just a lover's quarrel.

At this point in time, I'm going to wait until the dust settles because we all know from past experiences that in the heat of the moment when events are happening there's a lot of misinformation that's bandied about. Uvalde is a classic example of that. At least Gov. Abbott seems to think so.

It's also none of anyone's business what PP said. He's not under investigation. And before people get all upset about it, PP also incurred a serious head injury. When he recovers, its very unlikely he will remember most of what happened during the attack. That's normal.

 

[sds71]

When Frank Ciccarelli hired David DePape, he was homeless and living under a tree in Berkeley’s Aquatic Park.

But he was quiet, likeable and a steady worker building decks with Ciccarelli for six years, he recalled Monday. And politically liberal.

Three years ago, Ciccarelli worked out a way for DePape to move into a converted garage in Richmond. It was that single car structure with a plywood floor that the FBI searched over the weekend.

Ciccarelli said that once DePape found housing, "he had much more time to spend on his computer."

Ciccarelli said this time spent roaming the dark web led him to become increasingly isolated in the last few years and wanting to work less in the carpentry business, as per The Times.

Suspect accused of politically motivated attack on Paul Pelosi was 'completely caught up in the fantasy, in the MAGA fantasy,' his boss says

On Tuesday, David DePape pleaded not guilty to charges including attempted murder and kidnapping at the San Francisco Superior Court.

www.businessinsider.com

Boss Recalls Pelosi Attack Suspect's Descent Into Extremism

For the last three years, David DePape lived in Richmond in a converted garage. That’s where the FBI went over the weekend searching for evidence. NBC Bay Area’s Investigative Reporter Jaxon Van Derbeken reports.

www.nbcbayarea.com