Found Deceased CA - Philip Kreycik, 37, Pleasanton Ridge Regional Park, 10 Jul 2021

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  • #621
I am slowly beginning to lean towards voluntarily missing...
 
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  • #623
Did anyone discuss car keys / key fob? We’re they in the vehicle? Was it unlocked? How did he typically handle keys when running from a parked location? Would be interesting what prints are on keys / start button of car.
 
  • #624
This is the kind of scenario I was entertaining. I had not thought of another run. I have read through accounts of people who have recently gone out and ran the route PK planned, and learned the lot he was in is very small.
The lot is TINY. You can't even get ten cars in there, and if you did, it would be super tight. And it's right across the street and inbetween a neighborhood full of houses, some of which are up on slopes, from which you can see the lot and anyone going in and out of it.
 
  • #625
Speculations here.... Considering the time of day, if he was attacked by an animal while on his run, wouldn't others hear him screaming for help?

Additionally, if he needed help, for any reason, he had plenty of time to yell for help while people were still in the park and it was still daylight outside.

I live in California and close to this park, and my own opinion is, PK is either in the creek or bodies of water within the park, deceased.

Reminds me of the 2017 Paul Swenson missing person's case, and he was found deceased in a creek in Utah.


I live in the East Bay too and have been to this park semi-recently. Any place that usually has water, like a creek, is currently completely bone dry. There's even a little bridge meant to go over a creek early on on one of the fire trails that is dry as a bone. That's just the sad state of the drought here. I don't know of any body of water in/around the park that would be substantial enough to hold any actual water at this point in time.
 
  • #626
If he had collapsed ON the running trail, then most certainly his body would have been found as soon as they started searching. But if he went off trail for whatever reason and succumbed (to heat, injury, illness or whatever), he may have not been found yet. It took over a year to find Paul Miller in Joshua Tree. It took several years to find Dale Stehling in Mesa Verde NP. Perhaps he is below some foliage or something and has just been missed MOO.

He (or someone in his car) was obviously there as his car is there. We don't have reason to believe someone else drove his car there, at least not right now. So if he was there, there is a possibility he didn't run the trail. Maybe he was intercepted in the staging area before he got to run. Or maybe he got out, stretched a bit, went to begin the run at the trailhead and decided, "No, too hot out to do this safely today." Obviously something would have happened to him after that thought though, as he is missing. What? I'm not sure. Although one of the links posted above mention this area is "well-trafficked," I'm not sure how trafficked it would be on a 100+ degree day. If something nefarious DID happen there, no one may have been around to see it.


Thing is, this parking lot/trailhead is uncommon in the sense that it's basically smack dab in the middle of a suburban neighborhood. There's a big house literally across the street from it, and parking is up on the top of a sloped street, and can be seen. If something bad happened in that parking lot and someone reacted, yelled for help, fought etc, especially at 11am on a Saturday, it's very likely that someone in the neighborhood would have heard it. This is the kind of place where families live, people walk their dogs, teens ride skateboards, etc. And it's pretty affluent/new type of neighborhood, you know the kind, where it's basically completely quiet 24/7.
 
  • #627
I’m getting major Sherri Papini vibes.

How so? I don't recall the official word on her case, only that her story after being returned doesn't quite line up. Have there been any developments since 2019? (idk if discussion of another case is allowed in this thread, sorry)
 
  • #628
I read somewhere he was at the Oakland post office around 9am, given that he changed in his car, let’s give him fifteen minutes, he would’ve been at the trailhead latest by 10 am as it takes only 30 mins between those two locations.
Where was he between 10am and 1045?!
Did the post office footage show someone changing in his car or also showed his face?
My other question is did the wife actually talk to him or did he call and hang up?
How has SAR and 100+ not found him yet in a regional park?
if he was that disabled by heat, how could he walk 20 miles anywhere?

I can only clear one matter. There is CCTV of Philip walking in the parking lot from his car into the UPS Store and back again. The footage does not come from inside the UPS Store so are we sure what he did while inside?

We can't go making up clothes that we don't know he had. The shirt he's wearing in Friday night's photo, is the same one that was inside his car - is this accurate?

If so, maybe Philip didn't stay at his house on Friday evening after the run since his clothes worn on Saturday may be from Friday evening. He never wore fresh clothes on Saturday? It appears. Surely, he did tho.
 
  • #629
Did anyone discuss car keys / key fob? We’re they in the vehicle? Was it unlocked? How did he typically handle keys when running from a parked location? Would be interesting what prints are on keys / start button of car.

I asked about the keys too. I want to know if they have been found/if they can be tracked in some manner.
 
  • #630
I recall seeing (I don't know from what source, sorry if that's not allowed) that several neighbors have barred police from searching the perimeter of their properties, one that even made threats if any searchers even came near his house. Is that suspicious? If someone went missing in the vicinity of my house, I would absolutely let police search my property. Random volunteers is another story, but I surely wouldn't threaten them with violence. That's a truly odd reaction, in my opinion. Unless you have something to hide. That something might be completely unrelated to PK's disappearance, but still...
 
  • #631
I recall seeing that several neighbors have barred police from searching the perimeter of their properties, one that even made threats if any searchers even came near his house. Is that suspicious?

This was discussed earlier in the thread, and I mentioned myself it wasn't right. Someone discussed a liability issue with any injuries, and I can understand that with volunteer SAR groups, but LE need to get warrants to search there.
No stone should be left unturned, and in my opinion, that is a stone left unturned.
 
  • #632
I recall seeing (I don't know from what source, sorry if that's not allowed) that several neighbors have barred police from searching the perimeter of their properties, one that even made threats if any searchers even came near his house. Is that suspicious? If someone went missing in the vicinity of my house, I would absolutely let police search my property. Random volunteers is another story, but I surely wouldn't threaten them with violence. That's a truly odd reaction, in my opinion. Unless you have something to hide. That something might be completely unrelated to PK's disappearance, but still...
Private property borders this entire open space. Some of it (including homes) is close to established trails which can inadvertently lead to intrusion on private property. Establishing a park of this size, which is BTW dynamic with plans to secure more space for park land always in play, naturally creates some measure of conflict with private owners. Many worry about liability issues - some of us may roll our eyes - but it is a legitimate issue IMO. I live in Texas where private property rights are sacrosanct, i.e., "don't tread on me". I would prefer that the owners show more understanding since there is a missing person. But I respect their right to require a search warrant or less formal permission to have their land/buildings, etc. searched. JMHO
 
  • #633
Hopefully they have searched themselves. It is never easy to understand why people make a choice one way or the other, but it also would be upsetting and probably a bit frightening to have someone go missing so close to your home. Not being from the area or familiar, they may also have super high fences, etc that would make it extremely unlikely for PK to be on their property.
 
  • #634
Missing East Bay Runner's Family Not Giving Up Hope
Philip Kreycik disappeared on July 10 while going for a run at Pleasanton Ridge Regional Park. The 37-year-old went for what should have been an hour run, but he never returned home.

"We believe that there's a chance that Philip made it out of the park," Kreycik's father said Wednesday. "If he did, we think that he will come back. He may be recovering from a physical problem or a challenge of some sort, but we're convinced that there's a good Samaritan who's looking after him and taking care of him."
 
  • #635
I recall seeing (I don't know from what source, sorry if that's not allowed) that several neighbors have barred police from searching the perimeter of their properties, one that even made threats if any searchers even came near his house. Is that suspicious? If someone went missing in the vicinity of my house, I would absolutely let police search my property. Random volunteers is another story, but I surely wouldn't threaten them with violence. That's a truly odd reaction, in my opinion. Unless you have something to hide. That something might be completely unrelated to PK's disappearance, but still...

It could be that the property owners are unwilling to cooperate without more information, too, or maybe due to the way they were approached about it. We all know that LE holds things close to the vest, for obvious and legitimate reasons, but it can be irritating to not be told details as to why they need to be on your property. We recently had this discussion with six officers and a K9 unit in our backyard shortly after dark, and when asked why they were in our fenced backyard we were tersely directed to go back into our house and it was nothing to concern us. Except... they were in our backyard, which concerned us since they were looking into our garage and cars with flashlights and one officer clotheslined himself on the dog run and snapped the cable. I'll let someone search my property all day long if you tell me why, but taking liberties with my "stuff" tends to make me very uncooperative and I'll quickly show you the door.
 
  • #636
PK was aware of the heat being in triple digits. Two days before Philip disappears, this happens in Southern CA:
Heat wave prompts California to issue flex alert to conserve power

Thursday, JULY 8, 2021 5:34 PM PT
The California Independent System Operator, which runs the electric grid for most of California, has issued a new flex alert for Friday, asking residents to conserve electricity as a heat wave sweeps the state...

...excessive heat warnings across portions of Southern California,.... Saturday will likely be the warmest day overall, forecasters said." That would be Saturday, July 10, 2021. Yes, I'm aware of the 700m+ spatial distance. The point is that Philip was aware of his surroundings. His job placed him inside the electric power grid at PG&E.

In conclusion, Philip Kreycik was aware of the intense heat wave that would have bearing on any run at Pleasanton Ridge. PK was not suicidal. He would not risk running during a heat wave when he could have easily run from his home in Berkeley and avoided the hot temperatures. Philip Kreycik chose not to run where it was cooler. I don't think Philip intended to go running that morning.

Yes, this!! I agree with you. I thought about PK's job the other night with PG&E, and I agree with you that there is no way PK wasn't aware of the excessive heat. moo

Yes, in his text exchange with CT- when CT suggests a Saturday run at Mt. Um, PK responds by asking - "Is it really hot there in the summer?"

PG&E where PK has an important job is is issuing excessive heat warnings and PK asks CT if it's really hot there in the summer?

Anyone else find that odd?
 
  • #637
Yes, this!! I agree with you. I thought about PK's job the other night with PG&E, and I agree with you that there is no way PK wasn't aware of the excessive heat. moo

Yes, in his text exchange with CT- when CT suggests a Saturday run at Mt. Um, PK responds by asking - "Is it really hot there in the summer?"

PG&E where PK has an important job is is issuing excessive heat warnings and PK asks CT if it's really hot there in the summer?

Anyone else find that odd?
I do. That's why I think it's significant that the dogs lost his scent at the trailhead. I don't think he ran that day. I think he turned around and went back toward his parked car.

What happened after that? Who knows. I have considered that he met someone at the trailhead and left in their vehicle. Or, he just walked away from his life.

It has been such a hard 18 months for everyone and impossible to bear for some. The pressures of life have affected the mental health of so many, even people who seem perfectly happy with their lives.

It just seems that he was too seasoned a runner to have gone to run there in the excessive heat, especially when he could have run closer to home - and for a longer period - rather than counting the minutes he had to run until he was expected home.
 
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I can only clear one matter. There is CCTV of Philip walking in the parking lot from his car into the UPS Store and back again. The footage does not come from inside the UPS Store so are we sure what he did while inside?

We can't go making up clothes that we don't know he had. The shirt he's wearing in Friday night's photo, is the same one that was inside his car - is this accurate?

If so, maybe Philip didn't stay at his house on Friday evening after the run since his clothes worn on Saturday may be from Friday evening. He never wore fresh clothes on Saturday? It appears. Surely, he did tho.

Regarding seeing Philip wear the same shirt two days in a row: IMO some runners will do that. It looks like that quick drying type of material, and I think some daily runners may just put it on again if it doesn’t smell too bad. Others may hand wash or rinse it out and let it dry for a next day wearing. Everyone’s hygiene habits and personal body odor is different. IMO
 
  • #640
I don't think he ever ran and I don't think he even planned to run that day. MOO.
That's really all I have strong feeling towards for different reasons.
Any other thoughts I have at this point is pure speculation and not worth mentioning until there are further developments.
 
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