CA - Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #9

[katydid23]

Rebecca seemed very concerned with her appearance. I can't imagine her running around with tape residue on her legs, especially with family coming into town to scrutinize her every move. If it were wax residue, why isn't it anywhere else on her legs? If she were splinting her shins, why isn't the tape residue on the INSIDE of her calves as well????? Did she take the time to wipe the residue off the insides of her legs but not the outside???????

Makes more sense that she was sitting in a chair, with her legs taped to the legs, or her legs were taped together......now the question is WHY?

There was only about 3/4 of an inch of residue on each leg. How does that equate to being tied to a chair leg? Or her legs being taped together?

When I taped elastic bands around my shins I used to only tape them at one area. No need for there to be residue at more than one location.

 

[katydid23]

There are also 4 separate injuries to her head. Which LE never even attempted to explain during their presentation. It wasn't mentioned at all. One wonders why. If a hanging victim is found with injuries to her head, one would think it's suspicious so if LE is convinced it's all kosher and there is nothing to it, why did they not even mention it during the presentation?

I think it is very possible she hit the top of her head on the support bars below the balcony. If she swung back and forth after she went over the balcony she would have smashede into them, maybe even 4 times. And according to Wecht they were not hard blows.

 

[SunnieRN]

I think it is very possible she hit the top of her head on the support bars below the balcony. If she swung back and forth after she went over the balcony she would have smashede into them, maybe even 4 times. And according to Wecht they were not hard blows.

These are injuries on top of her head. Again, look at the piece of rope over the balcony, add in the length for the slack in the picture and the length of rope from Rebecca and she was too low to have hit her head 4 times on the supports of the balcony.

If she went over head first, she would not have swung until after she reached the bottom of the rope around her neck. Certainly not hard enough to hit the balcony supports.

 

[SunnieRN]

There are also 4 separate injuries to her head. Which LE never even attempted to explain during their presentation. It wasn't mentioned at all. One wonders why. If a hanging victim is found with injuries to her head, one would think it's suspicious so if LE is convinced it's all kosher and there is nothing to it, why did they not even mention it during the presentation?

Excellent question. This goes along with a t shirt stuffed into her mouth, after being wrapped three times around her neck.

 

[Evan's Mom]

Because they have captured it with photos and video images just like they do in all cases. It has been over 7 weeks and I am sure the home has been released. No one in their right mind is going to leave a message up there like that on a door in their home.

Once that is done then the scene can be cleaned up again. I think LE showed the whited out photo because they were trying to give privacy to the family members but even Bremner has seen the writing and a lot of experts can use those photos for analyisis to determine who wrote it.

In fact I wonder if it was in block letters at all but was just printed instead.

IMO

I agree about the cleaning up the door within this 7 weeks.
It was probably released within a couple of weeks at the most.

I recently posted a blog about a murder scene we came across on our way to work one morning. We were able to get a lot of detail because we were maybe a hundred feet or so from the where the body was sitting.
A man was murdered by his girlfriend in his driveway. He apparently tried to get back in the house before he died because there was a bloody hand print and other blood that had dripped all the way down the front door.
It took over a week, but less than two weeks before it was released and all of the blood was cleaned off the front door. I am assuming it was treated as evidence because it was blocked off and people were using the side door entrance.

 

[SunnieRN]

As pointed out originally by Stella5, there WAS another set of prints on the balcony, aside from the boot print and the prints at the railing.

Hmmmm. I can get the main photo to open, and the one with the boot print, but not the two closeups of the foot prints on the balcony. Note from this photo, there are two sets, one at the railing, and one right at the threshold. I wanted to blow these up to look for rope drag marks, which it would make sense to me that they would exist if RZ bound her feet together and then hopped out to the balcony, but I cannot get the other two to load the larger versions. Can anyone else get those?
http://www.sdsheriff.net/coronado/images/rz-footprints.jpg

This is the enlargement of the boot print. I do not see rope marks to the right of it. I can't see a person hopping across this balcony so 'cleanly'. And why can't I view the other photos now?????
http://www.sdsheriff.net/coronado/images/rz8765.jpg

I'm wondering about someones suggestion that a tall person could stand in the room and place Rebecca on the balcony already tied up and push her over.

What multimillionaire has a security system they don't use when their mansion faces a public beach but will hire PIs to follow their ex's boyfriends and doesn't seem to need household help???? :waitasec: Was the door to the main house unlocked? WHY??? Would you, as a single woman, stay in a big house on a very public throughfare with the doors unlocked and the security system disabled - ALONE????? I would not, no way, no how. Even with someone in the guest house....if AS needed something, he could have called or rang the doorbell.....

The blanket on the overturned chair and the dryer sheet in the photograph makes me wonder if RN was changing the bedding in that room and got surprised by an unexpected visitor who brought their stuff with them in that garbage bag.

ETA: That boot print is VERY close to Rebecca's prints at the railing. I hope that person is no longer on the force. If they couldn't understand how important that part of the crime scene is, then IMO they have no business there....unless that was on purpose.

Is that blood on the balcony, in the second picture you posted?

 

[IWannaKnow]

There was only about 3/4 of an inch of residue on each leg. How does that equate to being tied to a chair leg? Or her legs being taped together?

When I taped elastic bands around my shins I used to only tape them at one area. No need for there to be residue at more than one location.

So you are telling me you only put one piece of tape on your legs about 2" long? What good did that do for you?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zRB3OuZXe0"]Taping technique for shin splints - YouTube[/ame]

Note how the tape WRAPS AROUND the leg. The autopsy states that the tape was only on the anterolateral part of her leg. That means it was not on the inside of her leg. How do I get that that could have been taped to a chair? Picture sitting in a chair with your legs in front of the chair legs and your legs taped to the legs of the chair....you would ONLY have tape on the front of your legs, not the inside. Same thing if the legs were taped together....you wouldn't have tape residue on the inside of your legs. I don't know any clearer way to explain that.

 

[deanna82437]

Is that blood on the balcony, in the second picture you posted?

Sure looks like blood when seen full size. Whose blood? Was it even mentioned?

 

[SunnieRN]

Sure looks like blood when seen full size. Whose blood? Was it even mentioned?

Another piece of information left out of the PC?

 

[IWannaKnow]

Is that blood on the balcony, in the second picture you posted?

IDK Sunnie. I thought the same thing when I first saw it, then wondered if it could have been bird droppings. It certainly does appear to be dried blood and would be off her left side. Was it her left leg that was cut? Could that cut have come from cutting tape off her legs with a knife?

 

[Pach]

Forensics can do a microscopic analysis of the bandage(if there are remains of it) to determine if its the bandage used for exercising. if its masking or packing tape, there is no way that is used as shin tape unless her boyfriend was a tightwad. LOL.
LE can also or should have searched the house to recover all the tapes they can find and compare their widths or material with the tape used on her legs.

So you are telling me you only put one piece of tape on your legs about 2" long? What good did that do for you?

Taping technique for shin splints - YouTube

Note how the tape WRAPS AROUND the leg. The autopsy states that the tape was only on the anterolateral part of her leg. That means it was not on the inside of her leg. How do I get that that could have been taped to a chair? Picture sitting in a chair with your legs in front of the chair legs and your legs taped to the legs of the chair....you would ONLY have tape on the front of your legs, not the inside. Same thing if the legs were taped together....you wouldn't have tape residue on the inside of your legs. I don't know any clearer way to explain that.

 

[time]

They did know. And they were scared off big time. JS seemed to find something that worked as far as keeping men away from DS. No clue what his reasons were though. IMHO, an exhibition of power.

Thank you.

Do you mean after they were separated? Divorced?

That is very creepy. It's making me wonder how this kind of thing played into the dynamics of their relationship?

I raised this before, that I think it was not smart of Dina to allow Jonah to release a joint statement - not smart if she is truly independent and seeking the truth about both these deaths, if he truly had a bent toward destroying her. Once you get in bed with the enemy and say it's ok for you to include me, you have a difficult time later saying they are the bad guy. The statement released implied that all that domestic abuse was really nothing and directly characterized it as a 'rough patch' in their marriage. Perhaps she agreed to do that because it actually raises some questions about both their parenting. Or, prhaps he didn't have her permission.

 

[SunnieRN]

IDK Sunnie. I thought the same thing when I first saw it, then wondered if it could have been bird droppings. It certainly does appear to be dried blood and would be off her left side. Was it her left leg that was cut? Could that cut have come from cutting tape off her legs with a knife?

Hopefully when the autopsy report is released, we will know if the cut is on her left leg and how high up on her leg. It certainly looks more like blood then bird droppings to me.:maddening:

 

[time]

BBM

Reasons - I don't want you (I have a younger trophy) but no one else is gonna' have you - No one is as good as I or meets my standards to be around my kid(s) - you made my life hell - so I am going to watch your every move and everyone you associate with.......what gives you the right to be happy......

My opinion only:loser:

Hmmm, interesting score... made me immediately think tit-for-tat. You are investigating my boyfriends/partners about being around our child or to use against me/control me even after the divorce so I am going to investigate your partner and let you know I do not want her to b e alone with our child.

Dec 2010 (?) When Rebecca quit her job to spend more time with the kids and Jonah

Mar 2011 When Dina said I don't want her alone with my kids

Not sure I have the dates right, but my bet is that there is a timeline that should be looked at to show how these events (and more) intersect, possibly escalate? I don't know

 

[time]

The friend is the one who supposedly had knowledge about her exercise patterns, not her relationship with GS.
The friend said she was not exercising (presumably in January?) but according to trainers at the gym she was exercising regularly all summer.

Would she possibly have been busy moving, integrating with Jonah's household about then?

 

[scorekeeper]

Is that blood on the balcony, in the second picture you posted?

Can't be; wasn't mentioned during the dog and pony show........:crazy:

sure looks like something liquid.....

 

[deanna82437]

Yes, it's Radar Online, may or may not be new to everyone.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...th-not-suicide-lawyer-anne-bremner-calls-case

Posted on Sep 06, 2011 @ 05:00AM

"Her texts referenced were from a year before and benign. And the claim that she had lost weight and didn't work out was not true and admittedly was from six months prior."

Bremner has said she plans to formally request the Sheriff's Department reopen Zahau's death investigation.

She added: "This investigation shouldn't have had an ending Friday. It should have had a beginning."

 

[SunnieRN]

It almost sounds as if someone is reading here.:seeya:

 

[deanna82437]

Hmmm, interesting score... made me immediately think tit-for-tat. You are investigating my boyfriends/partners about being around our child or to use against me/control me even after the divorce so I am going to investigate your partner and let you know I do not want her to b e alone with our child.

Dec 2010 (?) When Rebecca quit her job to spend more time with the kids and Jonah

Mar 2011 When Dina said I don't want her alone with my kids

Not sure I have the dates right, but my bet is that there is a timeline that should be looked at to show how these events (and more) intersect, possibly escalate? I don't know

Feb 2011 Rebecca's divorce final

 

[Pach]

they can also ask the trainers and staff at the gym if Rebecca ever used or uses tape for the shins/legs.

Forensics can do a microscopic analysis of the bandage(if there are remains of it) to determine if its the bandage used for exercising. if its masking or packing tape, there is no way that is used as shin tape unless her boyfriend was a tightwad. LOL.
LE can also or should have searched the house to recover all the tapes they can find and compare their widths or material with the tape used on her legs.