CA - Rebecca Zahau Nalepa - suicide or murder? #11

[CDS22]

Actually I was remarking concerning your post.:seeya:

Indeed, as I was yours.

 

[SunnieRN]

I've read through older threads and have seen it mentioned often. I haven't mentioned that RZ was engaged in sex play once. I have said that through these links it shows how commonly people can engage in self-bondage and that those who have knowledge of it are discussing it on Jezebel. I was not the first to post the Jezebel link nor have the other Jezebel links been removed.

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CA - Rebecca Zahau Nalepa - suicide or murder? #10
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Posted By Salem
I removed some posts earlier regarding bondage...

I removed some posts earlier regarding bondage but forgot to put a warning in the thread. So here is the warning -

Discussing the intimate life of JS and RN is OFF THE TABLE. We are NOT going...

 

[Yoda]

I agree with your opinion that he doesn't owe the public anything, but... He did release a statement when the domestic abuse history came to light. And he did hire a pr company to advise him. I would think their advice to him would be to release some sort of sympathetic statement regarding RZ's death.
Imo

Maybe JS hired investigators from the start and knows more than he's letting on. Maybe he was going to break up with Rebecca before the accident, maybe decidedly after. Maybe he's tearing his guts out over her death and feels it's such a private matter, he can't share it with the public. Maybe he's the kind of guy who holds close his most private feelings, so he won't discuss RZ publicly. Who knows?

But he doesn't owe the public anything.

The smartest thing for everyone to do, in my humble opinion, is step back, take a deep breath, and let the experts handle things. If you don't like the experts taxpayers have provided, pony up and pay for it out of your own pocket. Surely with six siblings, many in-laws, and two living parents, they can come up with some money for a private investigation, or civil suit, which is what I think they're really heading for.

It looks cheap and tacky to sell stories to tabloids, and that's what we see happening. That makes JS and DS's dignified silence all the more powerful.

IMO

 

[rosemary]

But he doesn't owe the public anything.

What I find the strangest is that the Zahau family is busy trying to collect money but have yet to offer a single condolence to Max or mention the child's death. They have made all sorts of flying accusations about the victims in little Max's death and that's just wrong. It makes the thinking and feeling public automatically side with JS and DS.

The smartest thing for everyone to do, in my humble opinion, is step back, take a deep breath, and let the experts handle things. If you don't like the experts taxpayers have provided, pony up and pay for it out of your own pocket. Surely with six siblings, many in-laws, and two living parents, they can come up with some money for a private investigation, or civil suit, which is what I think they're really heading for.

It looks cheap and tacky to sell stories to tabloids, and that's what we see happening. That makes JS and DS's dignified silence all the more powerful.

IMO

I don't know why you would question the Zahau family just because they did not offer their public condolences to Max's family. Maybe they did so privately. Plus, hiring a private investigator and other forensic experts takes a lot of money, more so than an average family can afford even if they all had jobs. I don't see why they should be seen as cheap or money grubbing just because they have asked for donations in their website, it's not like they're forcing or demanding people to help them. Unlike in Jonah or even DS' case, the family doesn't have a lot of options available to them in helping to find a cause for Rebecca's death. The LE did not even bother to hire a forensic psychologist to help explain the reasons why Rebecca killed herself in such a a bizarre manner, which is not what I would consider a thorough job in an investigation to determine suicide or homicide. As mentioned in my previous link, a psychological analysis of Rebecca's death would have helped provide answers to Rebecca's grieving family, and would have helped assuage any of their doubts and suspicions regarding her death.

 

[justice be served]

I don't know why you would question the Zahau family just because they did not offer their public condolences to Max's family. Maybe they did so privately. Plus, hiring a private investigator and other forensic experts takes a lot of money, more so than an average family can afford even if they all had jobs. I don't see why they should be seen as cheap or money grubbing just because they have asked for donations in their website, it's not like they're forcing or demanding people to help them. Unlike in Jonah or even DS' case, the family doesn't have a lot of options available to them in helping to find a cause for Rebecca's death. The LE did not even bother to hire a forensic psychologist to help explain the reasons why Rebecca killed herself in such a a bizarre manner, which is not what I would consider a thorough job in an investigation to determine suicide or homicide. As mentioned in my previous link, a psychological analysis of Rebecca's death would have helped provide answers to Rebecca's grieving family, and would have helped assuage any of their doubts and suspicions regarding her death.

Bravo! Bravo! I agree.

 

[SunnieRN]

I don't know why you would question the Zahau family just because they did not offer their public condolences to Max's family. Maybe they did so privately. Plus, hiring a private investigator and other forensic experts takes a lot of money, more so than an average family can afford even if they all had jobs. I don't see why they should be seen as cheap or money grubbing just because they have asked for donations in their website, it's not like they're forcing or demanding people to help them. Unlike in Jonah or even DS' case, the family doesn't have a lot of options available to them in helping to find a cause for Rebecca's death. The LE did not even bother to hire a forensic psychologist to help explain the reasons why Rebecca killed herself in such a a bizarre manner, which is not what I would consider a thorough job in an investigation to determine suicide or homicide. As mentioned in my previous link, a psychological analysis of Rebecca's death would have helped provide answers to Rebecca's grieving family, and would have helped assuage any of their doubts and suspicions regarding her death.

:great::woohoo: And just for the record, didn't Rebecca's sister offer the Shacknai family the Zahou families condolences on Rebecca's eulogy on the memorial/burial site?

 

[deanna82437]

Remorse is something someone who's done wrong should be feeling. Say, like someone who was watching a child who got fatally wounded, not someone who was busy fighting for his son's life only to have to watch him die, then break the news to his other children.

No offense to anyone, but Rebecca wasn't his wife, she wasn't the mother of his child, and Max's death wouldn't impact her like it would Max's mother and father. Rebecca was just the woman he was living with, and I know that sounds cold, but a girlfriend doesn't equal a dead child, particularly if said girlfriend was somehow, even advertently, to blame for the child's death.

Maybe JS hired investigators from the start and knows more than he's letting on. Maybe he was going to break up with Rebecca before the accident, maybe decidedly after. Maybe he's tearing his guts out over her death and feels it's such a private matter, he can't share it with the public. Maybe he's the kind of guy who holds close his most private feelings, so he won't discuss RZ publicly. Who knows?

But he doesn't owe the public anything.

What I find the strangest is that the Zahau family is busy trying to collect money but have yet to offer a single condolence to Max or mention the child's death. They have made all sorts of flying accusations about the victims in little Max's death and that's just wrong. It makes the thinking and feeling public automatically side with JS and DS.

The smartest thing for everyone to do, in my humble opinion, is step back, take a deep breath, and let the experts handle things. If you don't like the experts taxpayers have provided, pony up and pay for it out of your own pocket. Surely with six siblings, many in-laws, and two living parents, they can come up with some money for a private investigation, or civil suit, which is what I think they're really heading for.

It looks cheap and tacky to sell stories to tabloids, and that's what we see happening. That makes JS and DS's dignified silence all the more powerful.

IMO

Money talks .. or is that silence speaks? :twocents:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkRIbUT6u7Q"]"Money" - Liza Minnelli, Joel Grey - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Pach]

well based on the hospital address you gave, the directions would be freeway 805 to freeway 8 to freeway 5 then cross over the Coronado bridge to orange avenue then ocean blvd.

..maxie was at rady's children's hospital in san diego.

..driving distance from 1043 ocean blvd. coronado CA to rady's children's hospital 3020 children's way san diego CA.

I-805 S
21 mins / 13.93 miles

CA-163 S
20 mins / 12.26 miles

 

[sdcali]

I mentioned this in another thread. There are 4 ways to get to Coronado. The first one and most obvious is the bridge. The second way is via Imperial Beach over the strand. The third way is via the Coronado Ferry. It takes passengers and bicycles only and the last trip either way is 9 pm on week nights. The last way over would be via a private boat.

 

[SophieRose]

We know for a fact a police officer has already gone onto the balcony before the LE started taking photos because of the boot print. It certainly would be interesting if the balcony doors were opened or closed when police showed up.

I believe LE said they were open.

 

[jjenny]

I believe LE said they were open.

Then why are the doors closed in the helicopter photo?

 

[Harmony 2]

Then why are the doors closed in the helicopter photo?

Is there a timestamp on the video? It could have been taken after the scene upstairs had already been processed, photographed, and closed down but before her body was removed to be taken to morgue. Perhaps her body was the last thing removed from scene...

 

[SunnieRN]

Is there a timestamp on the video? It could have been taken after the scene upstairs had already been processed, photographed, and closed down but before her body was removed to be taken to morgue. Perhaps her body was the last thing removed from scene...

The ME could not enter the room at 8 pm, as the scene had not yet been processed. So again, we have no answer as to how 'one foots' print got onto the balcony, or how the doors were closed. Also, people theorized that the salty breeze may have destroyed evidence as the room was processedso much later, but it certainly didn't mess up foot prints!

Her body being removed late is bothersome, for the fact that news helicopters and neighbors were able to photograph her dead nude body. She should have at least been covered. Also how can you get an accurate time of death, aftr a body has been outside for over 12 hours?

Not directed toward you, but stated for clarity.

And :welcome: to Websleuths!!!!!

 

[deanna82437]

Is there a timestamp on the video? It could have been taken after the scene upstairs had already been processed, photographed, and closed down but before her body was removed to be taken to morgue. Perhaps her body was the last thing removed from scene...

I posted a link to this image a while back. It also included the pic used at the PC with the rope intact. It appears in the video capture due to the lighting that it was taken in the morning, guesstimates to be 10 or 11am. Whereas the PC photo, due to the lighting appeared to be taken much later in the day or on a totally different day.

Weather reports have been posted for 7/13/11 as to temps and it was a sunny day. The SO pic looks to my eye, like it was taken on a cloudy day.

JMO MOO MOO

Time permitting I will look for that link or feel free to hunt for it ..:crazy:

 

[SunnieRN]

Are you referring to the zoho print, that has both photo captures?

 

[CDS22]

Corrected link, so edited:

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CA - Rebecca Zahau Nalepa - suicide or murder? #10
Views: 28,594
Posted By Salem
I removed some posts earlier regarding bondage...

I removed some posts earlier regarding bondage but forgot to put a warning in the thread. So here is the warning -

Discussing the intimate life of JS and RN is OFF THE TABLE. We are NOT going...

I have never discussed JS and RN's sex life.

 

[CDS22]

Is there a timestamp on the video? It could have been taken after the scene upstairs had already been processed, photographed, and closed down but before her body was removed to be taken to morgue. Perhaps her body was the last thing removed from scene...

That's what I always assumed because aren't investigations done in segments? It would be impossible to do everything at once.

 

[CDS22]

Money talks .. or is that silence speaks? :twocents:

"Money" - Liza Minnelli, Joel Grey - YouTube

Just because people are rich does not mean they are immoral. And just because someone is poor doesn't make them noble. People shouldn't be judged by the money they have or don't have. I'll bet JS would give away every penny he has if he could get his little boy back.

IMO

 

[deanna82437]

Are you referring to the zoho print, that has both photo captures?

You talking to me? Yes, that's the one.

 

[deanna82437]

Are you referring to the zoho print, that has both photo captures?

And here it is ..

https://viewer.zoho.com/docs/xJBccc