CA CA - Riverside, WhtMale, pre-30s, UP134825, traffic accident, picture avil, multiple tattoos, June 2 1978

[Sweetluv]

It looks like he was in Portland, Oregon.... Reno, Nevada, then made his way to Riverside, California . Maybe he was from Washington state? As a drifter, he could be from anywhere..hard to say if he had a destination in mind. He had no ID of his own , wallet, or personal belongings. Sounds like he just up and left..that's why I don't think he was reported missing. This "Jesse " though was important enough to him to have that name inked into his skin.

 

[Sweetluv]

I wonder if he was cremated or buried?...If buried, retrieving a DNA sample might be the only key to his identity. Unless the brush or sleeping bag has been in LE storage for all these years?

 

[Carovb5]

I wonder if he was cremated or buried?...If buried, retrieving a DNA sample might be the only key to his identity. Unless the brush or sleeping bag has been in LE storage for all these years?

I personally think there’s a good chance, with such good pictures alive & deceased, will be identified by people recognizing him online. He has just recently been added and is getting a lot of attention right now. I’ve seen a lot of suggestions online, he might already be one of them. It takes a while for police to officialy identify someone (dna match, informing family,…) Let’s hope his family will get closure soon!

 

[Susanna Richmond]

I didn't see anything about Las Vegas. What was the proof they had for that? I did see they said he told them he had been an organ for seven days. If it's true, he was in Juvie and maybe aged out the names are probably people he met in Juvie if he aged out the system, the kids he was hanging out with or 17 I believe I feel like they might have his age wrong. He could've just aged out the system and been hitchhiking ever since. He obviously had money to post bail, Wonder how you got that. I'm not sure how Juvy works, but almost makes sense, He didn't have his own ID. Maybe they don't help them get that. His birthday had to be between May 21 and June 20 is what I'm guessing since he has a Gemini tattoo and the symbol also represents Gemini, which makes me question if he had just aged out at 18 maybe he was about to turn 19 or just turned 19, so wouldn't have been hitchhiking that long, which might be easier to retrace his steps back to where he came from.

Exactly. I believe he came from Canada. He looks identical to Jacques Chaput. I believe Jacques traveled across Canada and then decided to come to the U.S. His journey began in late 1977..

 

[Susanna Richmond]

I also believe he may have thought he would be deported if anyone knew who he was.

 

[fsngruv]

Couldn't help but notice in the picture of Jaques, he has brand Mark Ten cigarettes in his shirt pocket, maybe it's just a coincidence?

 

[branmuffin]

Exactly. I believe he came from Canada. He looks identical to Jacques Chaput. I believe Jacques traveled across Canada and then decided to come to the U.S. His journey began in late 1977..

Jacques had a fractured wrist. Would the autopsy show that or were injuries so severe it was missed?

 

[branmuffin]

Jacques Chaput was born on September 26, 1960. He had a fractured right wrist. Would that have shown up in the PM? He resembles the deceased more as a dead man than alive. He would have had to gain nearly 50 pounds since he went missing.

 

[branmuffin]

There is no telling when the picture of Jaques was taken. He went missing in 77. No one knows when his picture was taken. And if he wanted to change to a new identity he could have tried dyeing (lightening) his hair which would have turned red. JD looks to have dry damaged hair.

The JD's coloring is consistent with someone with natural strawberry blonde hair. He has pale skin and freckles and his curls are natural. JC had fairly straight brown hair and brown eyes. Plus he only weighed 130 pounds when he went missing.

 

[Sweetluv]

Thought I would check in to see if there were any updates. Still zero exclusions on the Namus website. Don't know how much circulation this young man's picture has received since 1978. I wonder about DNA and Genealogy..

 

[Sweetluv]

Zero ruleouts on NamUs as of today..

 

[The4TierBridge]

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Do you know where I could find the raw links to these archived newspapers? I'm having trouble reading the images. Sorry for pinging you two months later.

 

[Sweetluv]

June 2, 1978.....thinking of this young man today!

 

[martinko]

Canada's Missing | Case details

www.services.rcmp-grc.gc.ca

Hi guys! I submitted a match found on reddit to the National Centre for Missing Persons and Unidentified remains around a month ago- wanted to cross post here in case any sluethers could dig up more info on this MP! He disappeared from Montreal 3 years before the Doe was found, and seemed to have been running from potential drug trade involvement. He looks super similar imo but the one photo on his profile is pretty grainy

 

[DD Byrd]

Canada's Missing | Case details

www.services.rcmp-grc.gc.ca

Hi guys! I submitted a match found on reddit to the National Centre for Missing Persons and Unidentified remains around a month ago- wanted to cross post here in case any sluethers could dig up more info on this MP! He disappeared from Montreal 3 years before the Doe was found, and seemed to have been running from potential drug trade involvement. He looks super similar imo but the one photo on his profile is pretty grainy

Now that is interesting. Bulb of the nose, eyebrows and bow of his upper lip all match. His part is different than Doe's, and hard to tell the coloring - Doe strikes me as the redder side of brown, but this is entirely possible if his hair lightened in CA. He would have had time to get all those tattoos, which I still find unique in that they are non-professional, but also different handwritings and styles.

 

[martinko]

Now that is interesting. Bulb of the nose, eyebrows and bow of his upper lip all match. His part is different than Doe's, and hard to tell the coloring - Doe strikes me as the redder side of brown, but this is entirely possible if his hair lightened in CA. He would have had time to get all those tattoos, which I still find unique in that they are non-professional, but also different handwritings and styles.

Just the one picture of Gaetan, and it's hard to make out any details on his hair. The hair part and even coloring would be easy to change, and it sounds like the Doe was somewhat transient. Perhaps he got different tattoos while in different areas? I am realizing I should probably submit the match on the US side as well, but I don't currently have a NamUs account

 

[Sjukdom]

I find this person interesting. Month of birth is june which matches the Gemini tattoo, also the height and weight is close to JD's. Hair and eye colour match.
https://www.doenetwork.org/cases/software/mp-main.html?id=5770dmca
I'm not the best at face features comparison but to me Steven looks similar to our JD.

Edit: Sorry, month of birth is April, June is the month he went missing

 

[Sweetluv]

Thought I would check in. Still 0 ruleouts on NamUs. IMO, these tattoos look home made. Esp the one that reads "enjoy" reminds me of female cursive writing. The "Mark" on his fist could be his name and the heart with "Jesse" could be a GF or child(?) At 5'11 and 180 pounds he seems pretty solid..so maybe not homeless or traveling for long..I wonder if he had an actual destination he was trying to get too?

 

[gotalight]

I believe the "rune like" symbol is actually some personal rendition of the Hebrew consonant "hey". I cant read or speak Hebrew but spent a few hours looking through grammar information- perhaps the bottom three dots are supposed to be tribute to Aleph and Dalet (side smaller dots) joining as Hey (center larger dot). Alternatively, potentially the symbol is meant to face a completely different way than the picture for Doe and was actually another Hebrew consonant like "Vet".

The Letter Hey

The Hebrew Letter Hey.

www.hebrew4christians.com

I believe the cross tattoo is the Cross Potent, which is also associated with the Jerusalem Cross.

Cross potent - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The best match i have found so far is Michael Lee Pickering though i am not entirely confident. He went missing in 1971 (left to hitchhike to San Francisco per family from Victorville CA and was never seen again) so he would have aged 7 years in the photos. Michael is also a common Jewish name from the Hebrew phrase "who is like god" (Mikha'el).

Riverside Doe is not listed on Pickering's exclusions.

Any thoughts?

 

[getnormd]

I believe the "rune like" symbol is actually some personal rendition of the Hebrew consonant "hey". I cant read or speak Hebrew but spent a few hours looking through grammar information- perhaps the bottom three dots are supposed to be tribute to Aleph and Dalet (side smaller dots) joining as Hey (center larger dot). Alternatively, potentially the symbol is meant to face a completely different way than the picture for Doe and was actually another Hebrew consonant like "Vet".

The Letter Hey

The Hebrew Letter Hey.

www.hebrew4christians.com

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I believe the cross tattoo is the Cross Potent, which is also associated with the Jerusalem Cross.

Cross potent - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The best match i have found so far is Michael Lee Pickering though i am not entirely confident. He went missing in 1971 (left to hitchhike to San Francisco per family from Victorville CA and was never seen again) so he would have aged 7 years in the photos. Michael is also a common Jewish name from the Hebrew phrase "who is like god" (Mikha'el).

Riverside Doe is not listed on Pickering's exclusions.

Any thoughts?

I would say that it’s a likely match, but I still have some doubts. Based on DoeNetwork it says that Michael has a deformed right ear. I’m pretty sure that if they were the same person something like that would be noted for Doe as well. It’s kind of hard to see what exactly the deformity is, but both people’s ear positioning is quite similar to each other’s.

It’s still worth looking into though. I think you should submit it. All of the information you provided about the tattoos is very helpful, so good work on that!