Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #23

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I think he's totally innocent but I think he had a strong suspicion about what might have happened.



That was a lie. They had a shared Facebook which has been deleted and SP had a very busy Pinterest board with all that super controversial stuff about cultural differences.

It also apparently had a lot of stuff that I didn't look at at the time that caused some posters on here to think something sad was going on with her emotionally. I didn't look at it deeply but it was related as stuff about perfection and ultra thin bodies. I remember reacting at the time as, "Come on. Her Pinterest doesn't tell us a darn thing about why she is missing." One poster in particular was very sweet and delicate in their comments but found the Pinterest board to be sad and maybe indicative of something. They were probably right. She hadn't been found yet.

There was also a photobucket account and finally, there was a very public and very dramatic and detailed blog post SP had created about their "perfect" courtship and marriage. It can still be found within other people's blogs. It's pretty interesting. Especially when you match up the dates she lists for moving in and marrying KP with the dates of her prior marriage.

I don't know what happened here. I know she showed up with some intense I juries and apparent weight loss which supports her story. I alsonknow that:

1. KP and SP are very dramatic people.
2. The story and circumstances seems fantastical, doesn't fit any kidnapping scenarios and LE has been making statements or releasing info that either appears to not indicate a crime took place (FBI poster), or appears designed to insinuate things about SP such as inconsistencies in her recollection or a secret life she may have.
3. KP and SP are dishonest. They absolutely were into social media prior to the disappearance. And the marriage blog written by SP had clear lies in it about things in her life that we can determine were untrue simply by looking at public marriage records.

Of course none of this means she wasn't a victim. But it may have something to do with how she got there, why she got there and what she really went through.

I agree 100% with your conclusion, but not so much that saying they were private and not active on SM was (necessarily) a lie.

If someone asked me was I active on SM I would say no, even though I've been on (and off ;)) this forum for years, and signed up on Twitter a few months ago. Depends on how one perceives and defines "active," perhaps especially in comparison to others.

On Twitter, just for example, I see folks who seem to spend their whole day there, tweeting & retweeting & seemingly trying to rack up as many tweets & followers as possible. I'm there almost entirely to "follow" peeps and orgs of interest to me, because their collective tweets provide updates & news I might otherwise not get, and they're all in one place.

As for their joint FB account. I never saw it, so don't know how they used that account, but as others have said, for many FB is a quasi-private place for families to share family photos & news. Settings can be used to disallow access by any other peeps, right?

All that said, what I've also seen often enough are folks who are all for using SM to their own advantage, but who complain about their privacy being invaded, etc. when the peeps whose attention they sought on SM " turn against them."

(One egregious example of that I remember well involved a couple who blogged about taking their toddlers on a round the world sailing trip, and who shopped their blog to local media and to multiple online groups.

Their blog was as personal as it gets, including details about the two having sex; the mother accusing her father of sexual abuse; and the same mother saying, frequently, that she wished the kids slept more often & longer so she didn't have to deal with them, and my favorite- an entry about her cooking a special treat just for her husband, lying to her kids when they asked about it, and hiding it until the kids slept & she and her husband devoured it by themselves.

Some readers of their blog found a lot of that pretty appalling, criticism they ignored, until......(long story short) one of their kids almost died on board, and the lot of them had to be plucked out of the ocean at great expense. Then the criticism poured in, which they responded to with great indignity, saying no one had a right to question their personal decisions or to invade their privacy).

It is also plain fact that after her return at least a few people supposedly close to the Papinis went all over SM to try to shape the narrative about what had happened. But... neither KP or SP have done so themselves, speaking in their own names. Their silence for the past year, actually, is IMO, one of the strongest arguments for believing that SP was indeed victimized, whatever the circumstances & motivation may have been.
 
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Unfortunately, I had a ceo try to hire me for sex through LinkedIn à couple of weeks ago. :( And my profile indicates NOTHING of the sort. It happens.

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Wow, did you report it to LinkedIn? (Assuming you can report to LinkedIn...)
 
  • #1,003
Wow, did you report it to LinkedIn? (Assuming you can report to LinkedIn...)
My bf and I are working on it.

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Dear LORD! (I have no idea which one btw) just using the expression - I think the joint FB account shows OVERT controlling in a relationship and a total lack of trust and equity. MOO

MOO- I think re-newing ones vows is intensely personal, some people (those more flamboyant and socially needy) just like being more out there with their relationships and need that social reward-connection.

Personally, I could think of nothing worse than having to publicly re-acclaim my devotion - I did it once and I MEANT it and live it every day, my spouse is my world. I trust him implicitly - if I ever have reason to doubt that - well that is a story for another day.

Generically speaking - I can't help but think that when there is a public declaration of love and devotion that is almost fairy tale in magnitude- this is the peak of the pageantry of a relationship -the couple are revered and indulged by their friends and family. Unfortunatley - from this point forward there is NO WAY to re-gain that grandeur and allure - not through pregnancy - not through kids achievements --- its not the same attention, the focus is not on how amazing the two people that come together. Its about the kids and their lives. AND this NEVER measures up to the focus on the two who have come together and want that celebrity status!
BBM
Exactly. We don't even wear wedding bands. We did, at one point, but I won't bore ya'll with the reasons, and they're not weird or anything. We each, also, rarely remember our anniversary...After the first few years, it seemed to just slip our minds. I guess this is why that the Ps relationship was just so, well, seemingly over-the-top, to me. He is an installation guy, for home theater stuff, wasn't he? They only make around $35k, and she's a stay-at-home Mom, who sells stuff off of ebay, fb, or etsy, iirc. She's "supermom" with "signature" hair, I just don't hear regular folks talk like that. I realize that they were probably living, either rent free, or paying very little for rent, but the avg. cost of living is well over $35k - $40k per year, there in Redding. They were paying daycare, and other bills. Wonder if their credit rating had gotten shaky, and they took out a loan from someone other than a bank, and they defaulted. The sketchy loan folks send someone to snatch her, and hold her, for pmt.? They didn't want to risk a dead body, they just wanted their money? We don't know, for sure, that some kind of payment wasn't made, somehow. He could make the Thanksgiving statement b/c he knew he had the money together. I wonder if any cameras caught any other vehicles in the area, slowing up, and stopping very near, where she was let out, prior to her being let out. Just a thought.
 
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Same here. We did not end up doing it, but I had hoped that since our wedding was not all we'd hoped for due to circumstances at the time, we could do a vow renewal in the place we should have the first time, with people who should have been there.

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This is why I kinda let my friends and family nudge me into a "real" wedding on the 2nd go round. My first one, we eloped, and I'm sure we all left quite the impression. (A couple friends drove us, and stood as witnesses.). It was not unlike something out of a Nat'l Lampoon movie (srsly). So, when the second one came around, I thought it would make my parents happy, and it would be fun, when the topic was broached. Being raised Full Holiness Pentecostal, though, the preacher wouldn't marry us!! However, because both our families had attended the same church, for so long, they did allow us to use the church, but we had to find another pastor/justice of the peace. A pastor who taught chapel, on occasion, where I worked, agreed to do the speakin' parts. It was fun, I admit, after all was said and done.

My cousin did what you and I did. She ran off and got married, too. Her mother was livid. Her Momma wanted that wedding, so, a full, blow-out, wedding they did have! lol
 
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This is why I kinda let my friends and family nudge me into a "real" wedding on the 2nd go round. My first one, we eloped, and I'm sure we all left quite the impression. (A couple friends drove us, and stood as witnesses.). It was not unlike something out of a Nat'l Lampoon movie (srsly). So, when the second one came around, I thought it would make my parents happy, and it would be fun, when the topic was broached. Being raised Full Holiness Pentecostal, though, the preacher wouldn't marry us!! However, because both our families had attended the same church, for so long, they did allow us to use the church, but we had to find another pastor/justice of the peace. A pastor who taught chapel, on occasion, where I worked, agreed to do the speakin' parts. It was fun, I admit, after all was said and done.

My cousin did what you and I did. She ran off and got married, too. Her mother was livid. Her Momma wanted that wedding, so, a full, blow-out, wedding they did have! lol

BBM. Lol... Chevy in tow.
 
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For people like me who eloped the first time around for practical reasons and want to do something special with family involved on a future anniversary.


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My grandparents had a full ceremony on their 50th wedding anniversary. They had married during the depression at a courthouse and grandma had always wanted a "wedding". It was the most magical thing I've ever seen.

Their grown children and their spouses stood by their sides as grooms and bridesmaids and they were surrounded by many generations of family all the way down to great grandchildren serving as the flower girls and ring bearing boys.

The church was packed with so many friends and family it was just wonderful. Grandpa died unexpectedly a year later so it's a memory we all cherish. Even my kids now in their 30's still bring it up on occasion..."Remember when great grandpa and grandma got married?"
 
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Thank god she was found! Prayers to her and her family.
 
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My grandparents had a full ceremony on their 50th wedding anniversary. They had married during the depression at a courthouse and grandma had always wanted a "wedding". It was the most magical thing I've ever seen.

Their grown children and their spouses stood by their sides as grooms and bridesmaids and they were surrounded by many generations of family all the way down to great grandchildren serving as the flower girls and ring bearing boys.

The church was packed with so many friends and family it was just wonderful. Grandpa died unexpectedly a year later so it's a memory we all cherish. Even my kids now in their 30's still bring it up on occasion..."Remember when great grandpa and grandma got married?"

Now that's sweet!
 
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We just got married in July so we of course didn't do it yet but like you, it's something I've thought about. Didn't realize it was apparently so tacky until this thread ha.

It's not tacky, if you didn't do the whole shootin' match the first go 'round. Those are the folks who are just doing it for attention,in my book. They do the whole wedding, spend tens of thousands of dollars on it, and then, ten years later, invite everyone to a big "vow renewal". If you're just wanting a dream wedding that you couldn't do, in the beginning, that's kinda different.
 
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I can honestly say I have not kept up with this case. So many others have had such an effect on me, and I follow those closely. I do remember when this first happened and I followed for a while. Then, she was miraculously found. That was wonderful news! I began to read some of the links provided and recall reading some her unbelievable antics (some involving very close relatives, as I recall), and I totally lost interest. I assumed LE would work it all out. But, I lost faith in what she claimed. I don't know what happened, but I do believe there is so much more to this story. Who, what, when, where and how? We are still left wondering about each and every one of these questions in this case, IMHO.

As far as renewing vows, I think it can be a lovely ceremony. The only one I have ever attended was years ago and I worked for the husband. He had a sweet, loving wife and two grown sons. It was held outside in a forest-like atmosphere, beautifully catered a large crowd in attendance. As I looked around at that crowd, there were "several" women there who had relationships with the husband both before and after that renewal. Within five years, they did get a divorce. He was an old dinosaur, set in his ways, and she finally walked away from all the drama. I don't blame her. This was way before the FB and social account craze that we deal with now.

I think I'll back away from this one and give it some time. She is safe now. That's a plus.

MOO
 
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I guess there is no "new" news on this case.
 
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My grandparents had a full ceremony on their 50th wedding anniversary. They had married during the depression at a courthouse and grandma had always wanted a "wedding". It was the most magical thing I've ever seen.

Their grown children and their spouses stood by their sides as grooms and bridesmaids and they were surrounded by many generations of family all the way down to great grandchildren serving as the flower girls and ring bearing boys.

The church was packed with so many friends and family it was just wonderful. Grandpa died unexpectedly a year later so it's a memory we all cherish. Even my kids now in their 30's still bring it up on occasion..."Remember when great grandpa and grandma got married?"
So romantic! We're in our 25th year & I thought it would be so neat to go to a small chapel in the woods and renew our vows, just the 2 of us. Didn't happen for mostly financial reasons, but I still hope to do it someday.

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I guess there is no "new" news on this case.

LOL. Nope, no new news. And I suspect there will be no new news for a very long while, and very possibly, no new news ever.

LE proactively did their duty on the first anniversary of whatever happened, perhaps lest they be accused in the future of being negligent. Beyond that? Unless events happened exactly as KP claims, there's no motivation for anyone to "come clean" and clear up the mystery, and not enough info for LE to work with to go after anyone, for anything.
 
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It's not tacky, if you didn't do the whole shootin' match the first go 'round. Those are the folks who are just doing it for attention,in my book. They do the whole wedding, spend tens of thousands of dollars on it, and then, ten years later, invite everyone to a big "vow renewal". If you're just wanting a dream wedding that you couldn't do, in the beginning, that's kinda different.


Sorry for going completely OT, but just saw your signature line. That episode of WKRP was one of the funniest things I've ever seen- it took many rewatches before I didn't laugh so hard I couldn't breath....:)
 
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Sorry for going completely OT, but just saw your signature line. That episode of WKRP was one of the funniest things I've ever seen- it took many rewatches before I didn't laugh so hard I couldn't breath....:)

OT too—Oh yes! That was hilarious. 😂🤣 :floorlaugh:
 
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Sorry for going completely OT, but just saw your signature line. That episode of WKRP was one of the funniest things I've ever seen- it took many rewatches before I didn't laugh so hard I couldn't breath....:)
Best sitcom *EVER*!

https://youtu.be/QEYyBU7FqZ0



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