Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #23

[DakotaMayi]

And his cousin, Eddie. :laughing:

Damn, there should be a thread for this. :floorlaugh:

 

[Angleterre]

I'm not the person you asked, but this article might be of interest to WSers in general about lies that LE may tell to suspect:

Ten (10) Ways Police Can Legally Lie to You
https://www.njmoorelaw.com/10-ways-police-can-lie-to-you

Wow just wow! You cannot do any of this in the UK!


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[Rayemonde]

Wow just wow! You cannot do any of this in the UK!


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Yes they can! The police can lie to you in the UK too!

 

[Hope4More]

Best sitcom *EVER*!

https://youtu.be/QEYyBU7FqZ0



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Thanks for posting the link. Just watched (that part of turkey show) again. Still makes me raflmao.

 

[Deleted member 189081]

I have been quietly following this case. I don't know all the in's and outs. However, I did watch the 20/20 interview. It raised more questions for me, rather than answers and clarity. It didn't quite sit right but that's a personal opinion and nothing more.

KR
Reacher

 

[Lilibet]

Best sitcom *EVER*!

https://youtu.be/QEYyBU7FqZ0



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OT— Indeed it was. Thank you for the link! I miss that show.

 

[Lilibet]

I have been quietly following this case. I don't know all the in's and outs. However, I did watch the 20/20 interview. It raised more questions for me, rather than answers and clarity. It didn't quite sit right but that's a personal opinion and nothing more.

KR
Reacher

BBM

...an opinion shared by many. Thanks.

 

[Inthedetails]

Yes, this is what I always think too. Although, I feel the same about vow renewals. It doesn’t mean that’s always the case.

I’ve never had a shared account with my husband and we both left Facebook two years ago, just too much drama, mostly from a family member. I still have a business account for my Etsy shop but have no friends so there’s no feed.

My brother and sister in law had a shared account for a short time and I know it was due to trust issues.

Just chiming in to say not to judge shared accounts! My husband has NO interest in any social media, but he has a fake-name FB account because that's how his sport league communicates. When it comes to family stuff on FB, I show him interesting photo or status updates from family, but he doesn't really care to keep up with people that way. If long-distance family members want to reach him, they send me a message either through FB or email and then I tell him. (If anyone wants to reach him without going through me, they can call....but not many people make phone calls these days.)

My DH has email for work because it's essential these days, but like heck he's going to spend any time typing and reading emails or SM threads on his own time. I can't even picture him ever having an interest in that. I rarely even see him sit down! If people ask for his email, he either tells them to call him or he gives them my email address.

We have no infidelity or trust issues. We're not fundamental Christians. Neither one of us is controlling of the other. We've been married for over two decades and going strong. My DH is just not the sort of person to spend time at a screen unless forced to for work (or for his sport team). He's way, way too busy and active.

My point is not to make judgements when you really don't know!

(I do think there were trust and control issues in the Papini case, however!)

jmopinion

 

[MaryG12]

The day after tomorrow is Thanksgiving - think we will hear anything new about this case?

 

[nwmouse]

The day after tomorrow is Thanksgiving - think we will hear anything new about this case?

I certainly hope so.

 

[Cannonball3804]

BBM
Exactly. We don't even wear wedding bands. We did, at one point, but I won't bore ya'll with the reasons, and they're not weird or anything. We each, also, rarely remember our anniversary...After the first few years, it seemed to just slip our minds. I guess this is why that the Ps relationship was just so, well, seemingly over-the-top, to me. He is an installation guy, for home theater stuff, wasn't he? They only make around $35k, and she's a stay-at-home Mom, who sells stuff off of ebay, fb, or etsy, iirc. She's "supermom" with "signature" hair, I just don't hear regular folks talk like that. I realize that they were probably living, either rent free, or paying very little for rent, but the avg. cost of living is well over $35k - $40k per year, there in Redding. They were paying daycare, and other bills. Wonder if their credit rating had gotten shaky, and they took out a loan from someone other than a bank, and they defaulted. The sketchy loan folks send someone to snatch her, and hold her, for pmt.? They didn't want to risk a dead body, they just wanted their money? We don't know, for sure, that some kind of payment wasn't made, somehow. He could make the Thanksgiving statement b/c he knew he had the money together. I wonder if any cameras caught any other vehicles in the area, slowing up, and stopping very near, where she was let out, prior to her being let out. Just a thought.

On the financial front, I think it's got to be significant that SP lost her job at the end of 2015, a job that probably paid her upwards of twice as much as KP made. How does a family compensate for losing 2/3 of its income? That's potentially a huge stressor/trigger, and it happened less than a year before the disappearance.

 

[Lilibet]

On the financial front, I think it's got to be significant that SP lost her job at the end of 2015, a job that probably paid her upwards of twice as much as KP made. How does a family compensate for losing 2/3 of its income? That's potentially a huge stressor/trigger, and it happened less than a year before the disappearance.

Does anyone remember or know why she lost her job with ATT? Was it a downsizing thing or personal? Or did she quit? I seem to recall that she worked in Humboldt County part of the time, which would involve almost three hours to drive from Redding to Arcata.

ETA: Here’s the source for my Humboldt County recollection.

http://kymkemp.com/2016/11/07/two-h...lieved-by-family-to-be-abducted-near-redding/

 

[Cannonball3804]

Does anyone remember or know why she lost her job with ATT? Was it a downsizing thing or personal? Or did she quit? I seem to recall that she worked in Humboldt County part of the time, which would involve almost three hours to drive from Redding to Arcata.

From what I understand it was a restructuring. SP's job was to go into retailers that sell AT&T products and tell them about all the latest and greatest stuff. They changed how they did it and it caused her job to go away.

 

[bears10]

Just chiming in to say not to judge shared accounts! My husband has NO interest in any social media, but he has a fake-name FB account because that's how his sport league communicates. When it comes to family stuff on FB, I show him interesting photo or status updates from family, but he doesn't really care to keep up with people that way. If long-distance family members want to reach him, they send me a message either through FB or email and then I tell him. (If anyone wants to reach him without going through me, they can call....but not many people make phone calls these days.)

My DH has email for work because it's essential these days, but like heck he's going to spend any time typing and reading emails or SM threads on his own time. I can't even picture him ever having an interest in that. I rarely even see him sit down! If people ask for his email, he either tells them to call him or he gives them my email address.

We have no infidelity or trust issues. We're not fundamental Christians. Neither one of us is controlling of the other. We've been married for over two decades and going strong. My DH is just not the sort of person to spend time at a screen unless forced to for work (or for his sport team). He's way, way too busy and active.

My point is not to make judgements when you really don't know!

(I do think there were trust and control issues in the Papini case, however!)

jmopinion

Is your Facebook name inthedetails&husband? I also this this is very generational. I’m a little younger than SP and KP and it’s very very strange in my experience to have a couple share a social media account, especially one that has both their names on it. In our generation it comes across a certain way. Meaning there is no trust and/or someone is controlling.


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[CocoChanel]

It bothers a lot of people! But honestly, those I know who do it are not insecure. I have no idea why they do it, though. It seems to me like having matching husband and wife outfits!

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OMG full disclosure: about 15 years ago, when Mr.Cocochanel and I first started going on cruises, I set about looking on eBay for Hawaiian-looking shirts for him, and dresses for me. Found a lot of clothes made by Hilo Hattie, a manufacturer of authentic island wear. Just by chance I found a dress for me and a shirt for dh in the same print. Of course I had to get them! We wore them on the first day of our 2nd cruise ever. It was a stretch for both of us to do something so “cutesy”, and we never did it again, but that one time was kinda fun. But usually I am one of those who rolled their eyes behind my back in those silly outfits. Live and learn! Haha!

 

[gitana1]

Thanks for those links, and it appears it may well be a trend in some evangelical circles (particularly with the younger couples who read and make up the demographic of Focus on the Family). I'm just saying, though, this hasn't come up in my circles, and if you knew me, you would know I'm about as mainstream evangelical as they come, (as well as old enough to have been in said circles, even occupationally, for several decades, now). I guess what I'm tryng to say is, the FotF crowd, as a narrower subset, does not define fundamental evangelical Christianity on the whole. Though admittedly, you'd have to be an evangelical to understand this. It may seem to define it due to all the press it's received over the years, but it's actually a narrower subset founded by one man (Dobson). So while evangelicals are aligned theologically (agreeing on the fundamentals of faith based on what scripture says), there is much greater variance in broader evangelical circles concerning how those beliefs are lived out. In other words, not all evangelicals approach life in line with FotF methodologies. (Eg. Not all evangelicals ascribe to corporal punishment in child rearing, not all evangelicals set up arbitrary rules such as shared passwords or accounts in an attempt to build hedges, 'safeguard' their marriage, faith and walk, etc. Those are simply practical-living add-ons for those who choose to write books about them and for some who choose to read and ascribe to them.)

Hope this makes sense and informs the discussion about shared Facebook accounts a bit, though I don't want to derail the thread with religious discussion per se.

Absolutely! Very informative and interesting.

 

[gitana1]

I agree 100% with your conclusion, but not so much that saying they were private and not active on SM was (necessarily) a lie.

If someone asked me was I active on SM I would say no, even though I've been on (and off ) this forum for years, and signed up on Twitter a few months ago. Depends on how one perceives and defines "active," perhaps especially in comparison to others.

On Twitter, just for example, I see folks who seem to spend their whole day there, tweeting & retweeting & seemingly trying to rack up as many tweets & followers as possible. I'm there almost entirely to "follow" peeps and orgs of interest to me, because their collective tweets provide updates & news I might otherwise not get, and they're all in one place.

As for their joint FB account. I never saw it, so don't know how they used that account, but as others have said, for many FB is a quasi-private place for families to share family photos & news. Settings can be used to disallow access by any other peeps, right?

All that said, what I've also seen often enough are folks who are all for using SM to their own advantage, but who complain about their privacy being invaded, etc. when the peeps whose attention they sought on SM " turn against them."

(One egregious example of that I remember well involved a couple who blogged about taking their toddlers on a round the world sailing trip, and who shopped their blog to local media and to multiple online groups.

Their blog was as personal as it gets, including details about the two having sex; the mother accusing her father of sexual abuse; and the same mother saying, frequently, that she wished the kids slept more often & longer so she didn't have to deal with them, and my favorite- an entry about her cooking a special treat just for her husband, lying to her kids when they asked about it, and hiding it until the kids slept & she and her husband devoured it by themselves.

Some readers of their blog found a lot of that pretty appalling, criticism they ignored, until......(long story short) one of their kids almost died on board, and the lot of them had to be plucked out of the ocean at great expense. Then the criticism poured in, which they responded to with great indignity, saying no one had a right to question their personal decisions or to invade their privacy).

It is also plain fact that after her return at least a few people supposedly close to the Papinis went all over SM to try to shape the narrative about what had happened. But... neither KP or SP have done so themselves, speaking in their own names. Their silence for the past year, actually, is IMO, one of the strongest arguments for believing that SP was indeed victimized, whatever the circumstances & motivation may have been.

I see your point. Makes sense.

And oh my goodness I remember that crazy family. Holy smokes!!

 

[lonetraveler]

OMG full disclosure: about 15 years ago, when Mr.Cocochanel and I first started going on cruises, I set about looking on eBay for Hawaiian-looking shirts for him, and dresses for me. Found a lot of clothes made by Hilo Hattie, a manufacturer of authentic island wear. Just by chance I found a dress for me and a shirt for dh in the same print. Of course I had to get them! We wore them on the first day of our 2nd cruise ever. It was a stretch for both of us to do something so “cutesy”, and we never did it again, but that one time was kinda fun. But usually I am one of those who rolled their eyes behind my back in those silly outfits. Live and learn! Haha!

LOL, how many rum drinks did it take to give you the courage to wear the outfits? Just kidding.

 

[rsd1200]

Sorry for going completely OT, but just saw your signature line. That episode of WKRP was one of the funniest things I've ever seen- it took many rewatches before I didn't laugh so hard I couldn't breath....

OT It was probably one of the funniest things I've ever seen on television. I'm like you, I would watch it, and laugh til I cried. I was watching with my parents at the time, that this show was originally aired, and I honestly thought that my father was going to go into hysterics. :lol:

 

[rsd1200]

Damn, there should be a thread for this. :floorlaugh:

Oh, believe me, I've thought about writing a book, over the years. :lol: Then I come to my senses.