Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #9

[katydid23]

"I was at home when I was called" would have been perfectly appropriate in that circumstance.

I only wonder why the secrecy is all. Surely there's nothing incriminating or potentially case-threatening by stating where you were when you were told...?

But then I also wonder why the question. Do the press know where she was? I.e. Perhaps she was setting up for balloon release/ poem etc.

Maybe they were trying to point out the obvious fact that it was odd to have continued with that particular activity knowing that Sherri had been found.

All MOO and just tumbling thoughts around.

I think it is likely that the family was told not to talk about her being found at the very beginning. I am sure that LE wanted to thoroughly search that area before the perps knew she had been rescued successfully. They were probably hoping to find them clearing out and did not want them to expect LE was already there looking.

If so, it is kind of unfair to point fingers at the family for continuing with what was already planned. It might have looked really odd to call it off, without being able to explain WHY they did so. JMO

 

[kammiemc]

Yes, that pause was very odd...

I heard it, too.

If I thought my sister was dead, and then found out she was alive, I think I would be ECSTATIC! :happydance:

Maybe she feels joyous that her sister is alive but doesn't know, herself, for sure if the story of how she disappeared is true, so she feels some hesitation. Seems a little weird if it's true that she doesn't know any details.


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[flightfulbird]

But then I also wonder why the question. Do the press know where she was? I.e. Perhaps she was setting up for balloon release/ poem etc.

Maybe they were trying to point out the obvious fact that it was odd to have continued with that particular activity knowing that Sherri had been found.

I watched the "appearance" by Sherri's sister just now and she definitely (imo) dodged/evaded the question of "where were you". It should have been an easy answer - it should be engraved in Sheila's mind where she was when she heard the joyous news ! No hesitation required.

I can remember exactly where I was and what I was doing when I've heard certain bits of news or when things have happened in my family - from YEARS ago - and these things were nothing compared to this news of a sister who everyone thought was gone forever suddenly being found safe and relatively unharmed, on Thanksgiving Day no less !

I think it could well be a situation where reporters knew where she was and were curious or attempting to expose why the balloon release continued even though her family knew she was found and safe by then.

 

[missgulfsouth]

I haven't been on WS for a long time - maybe since Mickey Shunick. Oh, and Kortne Stouffer, because I lived about 5 miles away at the time of her disappearance.
This case brought me back here solely due to the hink factor.
Maybe my radar's off, but it seems to me that just slightly too many individual elements are just slightly too unusual to all have occurred in a single case without extraordinary, supernatural coincidence or divine intervention.
I have no idea what will come out and I'm not here to dispute anyone else's opinion or annoy anyone, but I know if I want to find out what's going on with a case as it's happening, this is the one stop shop, so here I am.
I recognize a few usernames, but it had been so long, I'd forgotten mine! Probably something with Jury in it. ;-)
I've plowed through a few threads and my vision's getting blurry.
Looking forward to following you folks' thought-threads on this one.
It's quite intriguing.


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I remember you from Mickey's case ... and I second (and third) your observations about this one. Welcome back!

 

[katydid23]

Did anyone else notice how Sheila Koestner said she was "very joyous" but the entire time was *very grave and serious.*

It would be hard to truly feel joy, if faced with the reality that ones sister was chained and beaten for 3 weeks. Maybe the sad reality was hitting her at this time and it was sad.

 

[Inthedetails]

The only thing that stood out from the above for me was when she was asked where she was when she found out Sherri had been found.

Long pause.

"Um... I heard on Thanksgiving morning that she was found."

Could be that she assumed the people would know that meant she was at home. Most people are at home on Thanksgiving morning, rather than at work, dropping kids off at school, etc.

IDK, of course, just trying to make sense.

jmo

Edited to add: OR was she at the balloon release T-day morning? IDK

 

[Ontario Mom]

I'm at a loss as to why so many are reading so much into everything/anything in this case says or does. Her sister is 6 months pregnant, and just got news yesterday her sister was located and alive. I mean, that's kind of a massive emotional overload and all she was doing was trying to express her family's thanks.

 

[LozDa]

Could be that she assumed the people would know that meant she was at home. Most people are at home on Thanksgiving morning, rather than at work, dropping kids off at school, etc.

IDK, of course, just trying to make sense.

jmo

I'm just trying to make sense too. I'm not sure there's any to be made at the moment. A very frustrating case from the start. Too many unknowns.

I'm off to bed before my brain implodes. [emoji23]

 

[Lilibet]

"Witnesses say investigators meticulously examined the shoulders of Interstate 5, and the land surrounding this church near where Papini was found."
http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2016/11/24/yolo-reacts-to-sherri-papinis-safe-return-home/

Don't know if this is in any way significant, but it stuck out to me as I read this article, so I searched the area on google maps and there is a Jehova's Witness church right there.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/W...bd68d46dac602!8m2!3d38.6785157!4d-121.7732971

I'm not quite understanding. Are you thinking there might be security cameras...or is there something else?

Hmm, interesting...churches don't usually have security cameras?

Nowadays it's fairly common in certain areas. IMO along I-5 would be one. Vandalism and break-ins are not unheard of.

 

[flightfulbird]

Could be that she assumed the people would know that meant she was at home. Most people are at home on Thanksgiving morning, rather than at work, dropping kids off at school, etc.

IDK, of course, just trying to make sense.

jmo

Edited to add: OR was she at the balloon release T-day morning? IDK

Why the long pause, then - like stopping to think "what should I say", "what can't I say", "what shouldn't I say" about where I was?

It was a straightforward question - at 3:20 remaining in the video (Facebook link below) - "where were you and when did you learn, of the good news?"

Her response - "um. . . (hesitates, sighs, looks up, looks down, closes eyes). . .I heard on Thanksgiving morning . . that she was found."

Interesting body language and definitely not joyous. It seems it would be impossible to hold in the exuberance and excitement.

I am NOT judging, I just find it interesting.

https://www.facebook.com/KRCR7/videos/1242684825786456/

 

[JuryStillOut]

I remember you from Mickey's case ... and I second (and third) your observations about this one. Welcome back!

Uh....have any idea what my username was? Ha! I remember you, too. Thanks! Good to see you.


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[Helen_Ready]

Hmm, interesting...churches don't usually have security cameras?

They do now....Look at Missy Bevers Murder in church

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[Helen_Ready]

The sister's emotion (namely, lack of positive emotion) in the news conference says it all for me.

I noticed that.

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[kammiemc]

I remember you from Mickey's case ... and I second (and third) your observations about this one. Welcome back!

You guys would be good to ask about this:

I feel like in every case there are some weird circumstances and some initial red herrings, so I would expect that in this case, too. It seems, IMO, that this case could go either way and I'm just waiting for LE to give their opinion.

But a ton of people are saying that nothing adds up.

The only things that seem very strange to me are that it was (by SP's account) two women who abducted her and then released her and that a citizen offered a reverse ransom.

But all the other things, the phone, earphones, half-wrapped present, previous marriage, wedding enthusiasm, attractiveness, texts to husband, husband checking find my phone when he couldn't find her, etc., more or less support an "abducted while jogging" scenario.

Are there other key pieces of info I am missing or overlooking?


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[Francesca]

I am extremely thankful that Sherri is alive and can be reunited with her children. This is the best possible outcome, but the mystery remains. As others have pointed out, there are so many jarring factors that don't fit the demographic or don't fit the natural time frame. The logical theories for me are (1) that the family quietly paid the ransom without the knowledge/ approval of LE , so she was released; or (2) that this was an inside job. As much as I'd love to expand on my ideas for (2) there is too much evidence and information that is unavailable to us, so we can only speculate about it which is not appropriate when something deeply traumatic has happened to this family.
I will say that I don't understand why they are now releasing photos of the children to the media along with their names and ages, when the mother has recently been violently kidnapped.

 

[birpu]

I'm not quite understanding. Are you thinking there might be security cameras...or is there something else?

Nowadays it's fairly common in certain areas. IMO along I-5 would be one. Vandalism and break-ins are not unheard of.

I just read she was found by a road between co17 and I5, and that they "meticulously" searched that area and land around the church . So I thought maybe it had some significance. Kind of random, I guess.

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

I've been racking my brain, but I'm stumped: can anyone else here remember a kidnapping case where the victim was held for weeks and then released without a ransom being paid? I ask because I can't imagine why a kidnapper would do that, and past cases might provide some ideas.

Sure... Rachael Mattice .. oh, wait...

Never mind.

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[Knox]

I'm puzzled by LE's lack of clarity. I would think if they believed there was a group of hispanic women snatching innocent women off the street and forcing them into the sex slave trade, there would be a LOT of information out there to help find these women. That is a huge public hazard. As it is, I'm just sensing they're not doing all that much right now. It just seems clear to me that there would be more information - were there others involved, what DID she see (people, location, etc.) and I don't sense they were even in a hurry to interview her further.

Do you think it's odd that LE did/could not question her thoroughly? I understand she was traumatized, and who wouldn't want privacy with their husband after what she went through. But I'm wondering if it's SOP to let a crime victim go home and not be questioned in a meaningful way? She and Keith called the City of Redding Mayor today to thank her. But has she met with investigators?

 

[Suglo]

I'm not quite understanding. Are you thinking there might be security cameras...or is there something else?



Nowadays it's fairly common in certain areas. IMO along I-5 would be one. Vandalism and break-ins are not unheard of.

That portion of I-5 is heavily traveled at all hours of the day and night. It's the main highway up to Northern California, Oregon and Washington. Sacramento's airport is a few miles from where she was let go right off I-5. I do that route often in the early hours of the morning. I'm wondering if she was dropped off on a side country road and walked over towards the highway. That church is an exit north of the main Woodland exit. Very risky to drop someone off there if you don't want to be seen.


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[Russian Blue]

Do you think it's odd that LE did/could not question her thoroughly? I understand she was traumatized, and who wouldn't want privacy with their husband after what she went through. But I'm wondering if it's SOP to let a crime victim go home and not be questioned in a meaningful way? She and Keith called the City of Redding Mayor today to thank her. But has she met with investigators?

Good point, if anyone, they should be calling LE and living in their laps right now until they find these 2 hispanic women.