Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #9

[skibaboo]

I've used up my free reads at the Redding Record Searchlight so can't review their news articles. Your marker is on the west side of I-5 where the traffic is southbound. I found this:

"Yolo County Sheriff Ed Prieto told The Daily Democrat in Woodland that Papini was discovered by a passing truck driver on northbound Interstate 5 and County Road 17, near the town of Yolo, which is four miles north of Woodland."​

Here is the source
http://www.chicoer.com/general-news/20161124/missing-redding-woman-sherri-papini-found-safe

This Sheriff interview says she was released on a rural road near an I-5 Interchange. That had to be County Road 17.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/sheriff-speaks-missing-california-mom-found-43771704

"Evidently, one of the captors had dropped her off on a rural road near Interstate 5 and an interchange," he said. "She was able to flag down a motorist, and that motorist summoned emergency assistance from the highway patrol, then medical [responders] as well."​

I think the entire interchange and rural road area was searched for evidence so there probably are evidence markers everywhere. She must have walked down one of the ramps to get to I-5. I don't know which ramp, but suspect it was the exit ramp, into the northbound headlights. She was on I-5 when found but I don't know If she was standing before or after the ramp.

Woman recalls spotting missing California mom Sherri Papini frantically waving for help on side of highway
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Updated: Friday, November 25, 2016, 8:22 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ssing-calif-mom-waving-road-article-1.2887530

"When I saw her, it really startled me. She was really close to the road, like almost out in traffic," she told the Daily News.​

I actually first put the marker on the east side of I5 because that was where I thought I'd identified the spot from video. One video shows a crime scene marker with the number 8 on it, left at the scene. I was told by someone who knows the area it would have been at the west side, so I moved it there last night.

Should I move it back to the east?

 

[glassheater]

i was on the Voluntary Missing side of the fence- and still straddle it at times. If she was abducted, I suspect the family knew exactly why. I think that is why things went silent. I suspect they knew she was being kept alive.. pending SOMETHING. And the reverse ransom was how they communicated with the abductors. They probably were not in it for the $$... but the assurance that no one would go to the police if she were let go... kind of an "ok. You win. Now let her go". And it may very well be that Sherri will keep her end of the deal, never say anything more... Hubby telling the kids that she would be home for Thanksgiving was telling to me. At those young ages, Thanksgiving meant nothing to them at all. So why tell them that... unless he knew...

On the Voluntary Missing side, if she did leave, even just to get some space- who knows? Once it hit the media, I think it may have made it very difficult to return. How do you just saunter back in and say " hey, Im back" once your face has been all over the papers saying you had been abducted? Perhaps showing up the way she did was a way of letting her come back, save face. If she had said she escaped there would have been an expectation that she show LE where she was kept. Being released a long way away would make it easy to say " I have no idea where" The description of her abductors is so vague they will never be found. The public will never hear anymore about it. Even if LE comes to this conclusion- I expect they will not release this info.

Anyone beside me wonder why the captors would chain her to something, rather than just shove her out of the vehicle? Seems like it added a layer of opportunity to be seen. And if it were just to give them more time to make their getaway... they could just have easily dropped her off miles from anyplace. Seems like it was just to add drama...

The captors however missed their deadline and CG then said they are after the captors and will prosecute them, and the reward will go to someone with information. I wonder if they released her because they were paranoid somebody would tattle on them for a handsome reward. I mean 100K isn't chump change...

 

[luckylis]

The frustrating thing is that we're not allowed to sleuth motive without appearing as we're sleuthing other people. There is a difference and I feel like this site is too PC. I feel that way but also appreciate it at the same time.

 

[JeannaT]

The frustrating thing is that we're not allowed to sleuth motive without appearing as we're sleuthing other people. There is a difference and I feel like this site is too PC. I feel that way but also appreciate it at the same time.

I agree it's restrictive; but when I go to other sites below news articles, I just think . . . . how could you SAY that????? So it's nice to be in a place where civility is enforced.

Oh, and you can sleuth all you want - you just can't post it. I think probably all of us have noodled around places we can't post about, in this case and others.

 

[katydid23]

I see that some have mentioned that KP promising the kids that Mommy would be home by Thanksgiving somehow proves this was a hoax or something. I don't see it like that. IF it was some kind of an inside job, and he knew she would be released that day, would he share that promise with the public? Why would he do that?

 

[Ontario Mom]

911 call: http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article117258213.html

And to be honest, I don't recall ever following a case here where responding officers or EMT's initial assessment of a victim or a scene was blown off as if rumor or not at all accurate. I'm really struggling to understand why some are doing that in this case.

 

[glassheater]

I see that some have mentioned that KP promising the kids that Mommy would be home by Thanksgiving somehow proves this was a hoax or something. I don't see it like that. IF it was some kind of an inside job, and he knew she would be released that day, would he share that promise with the public? Why would he do that?

"Last week he promised their two children, Tyler four and Violet, two, that 'mommy' would be home by Thanksgiving.
'Of course we all hoped it would come true, you have to have faith,' said Ken.
'But we had planned to have a nice family Thanksgiving and none of us were allowed to mention it, we would only talk about forgiving and thanks. 'None of us imagined it might actually come true.'
'None of us imagined it might actually come true.':

BBM
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...omised-children-d-holidays.html#ixzz4RG9ReeY9
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Sounds like he was trying to stay positive, but IMO it would of been cruel to the children had it not come true.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

The dispatch tape say's that Sherri's location was "just south of Yolo on northbound I-5". That makes me feel that she may have been released on county road 18 which is just south of Yolo and not county road 17 which is just north of Yolo.

Nothing but farmland around there. Maybe she headed to the only sound she could hear which would be northbound I-5.

http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article117258213.html

 

[AceDetective]

I'm sure I'm 20 miles behind already but I'm pretty sure the trained medical staff at the hospital would know the difference between dirt and injuries. It has been said she was treated for non-life threatening injuries. I can't understand why this is still a question for some people.

Because:
- it can be hard to determine injuries at the side of the road at night.
- 'non-life threatening injuries' can mean a lot of things.

It's just that from what we've been told so far it is still ambiguous. Things often end up being quite different from what is first reported.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I see that some have mentioned that KP promising the kids that Mommy would be home by Thanksgiving somehow proves this was a hoax or something. I don't see it like that. IF it was some kind of an inside job, and he knew she would be released that day, would he share that promise with the public? Why would he do that?

Who knows exactly how he worded that? "We're hoping mommy will be home for Thanksgiving" or "let's all just think good thoughts of having mommy home by Thanksgiving" or a million other ways. These babies are 2 and 4, and they want mom, and dad does too. It seems like everything this family says or does or doesn't say or do is dissected for ulterior motive.

 

[InLiberataRegina]

Where would one purchase a ball and chain? Amazon? 樂

Why, yes. Yes. Amazon has everything: Ball and Chain *waits for hellfire :/

 

[DexterMorgan]

I've used up my free reads at the Redding Record Searchlight so can't review their news articles. Your marker is on the west side of I-5 where the traffic is southbound. I found this:

"Yolo County Sheriff Ed Prieto told The Daily Democrat in Woodland that Papini was discovered by a passing truck driver on northbound Interstate 5 and County Road 17, near the town of Yolo, which is four miles north of Woodland."​

Here is the source
http://www.chicoer.com/general-news/20161124/missing-redding-woman-sherri-papini-found-safe

This Sheriff interview says she was released on a rural road near an I-5 Interchange. That had to be County Road 17.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/sheriff-speaks-missing-california-mom-found-43771704

"Evidently, one of the captors had dropped her off on a rural road near Interstate 5 and an interchange," he said. "She was able to flag down a motorist, and that motorist summoned emergency assistance from the highway patrol, then medical [responders] as well."​

I think the entire interchange and rural road area was searched for evidence so there probably are evidence markers everywhere. She must have walked down one of the ramps to get to I-5. I don't know which ramp, but suspect it was the exit ramp, into the northbound headlights. She was on I-5 when found but I don't know If she was standing before or after the ramp.

Woman recalls spotting missing California mom Sherri Papini frantically waving for help on side of highway
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Updated: Friday, November 25, 2016, 8:22 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ssing-calif-mom-waving-road-article-1.2887530

"When I saw her, it really startled me. She was really close to the road, like almost out in traffic," she told the Daily News.​

That sounds like a paid ransom.

 

[JeannaT]

And to be honest, I don't recall ever following a case here where responding officers or EMT's initial assessment of a victim or a scene was blown off as if rumor or not at all accurate. I'm really struggling to understand why some are doing that in this case.

I think I can answer that. Because the sheriff, who held the news conference, is acting so unusually. His response is so very unusual for the facts that have come out. I'm thinking of other LE cases where victims were found still alive, or deceased, and LE SWARMED the scene. More cops than you ever saw in one place were suddenly there. This response has appeared to be so muted that observers of this case are left to wonder what do they know that we don't know.

And the answer may be "nothing". The answer may be that this sheriff's department has dropped the ball, or does things differently than average. I just feel like time is tick tick ticking away to find and apprehend the kidnappers while we sit back and wait for LE to fully interview Sherri.

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

I've been thinking about this. It would have to be something she could carry, unless they just dropped her off right there and she was unable to move. So something like a hubcap, maybe? But stopping and getting her out of the vehicle would be risky.

Did she get away and drag whatever it was along with her?

If she was able to move with it, it would defeat the purpose, no?

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[DexterMorgan]

I'm sure I'm 20 miles behind already but I'm pretty sure the trained medical staff at the hospital would know the difference between dirt and injuries. It has been said she was treated for non-life threatening injuries. I can't understand why this is still a question for some people.

As for the statement given by her sister, I think the only people confused by that are the ones that were looking for something. She made it clear she wanted to read a statement FROM her sister and husband, thanking all those who helped. I think her only mistake was allowing questions after, to which she was unable to answer, for the most part. I suspect allowing the questions was likely suggested to her from someone else, as a gesture to the media, since it's SUCH a messed up, high profile case.

fwiw.

Light skin folks bruises show up fairly easily.

You can scratch at a mosquito bite and the area will look like one is bruised.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I think I can answer that. Because the sheriff, who held the news conference, is acting so unusually. His response is so very unusual for the facts that have come out. I'm thinking of other LE cases where victims were found still alive, or deceased, and LE SWARMED the scene. More cops than you ever saw in one place were suddenly there. This response has appeared to be so muted that observers of this case are left to wonder what do they know that we don't know.

And the answer may be "nothing". The answer may be that this sheriff's department has dropped the ball, or does things differently than average. I just feel like time is tick tick ticking away to find and apprehend the kidnappers while we sit back and wait for LE to fully interview Sherri.

How big is the Shasta County Sheriff's Department? Maybe this Sheriff is out of his league with this case?

 

[creepcrusher]

If she didn't leave voluntarily then I definitely think she was targeted for some sort of revenge. And I believe LE is being low key because they're close to making an arrest.


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[creepcrusher]

If she was able to move with it, it would defeat the purpose, no?

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Unless it was just to slow her down.


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[IllinoisMissing]

I actually first put the marker on the east side of I5 because that was where I thought I'd identified the spot from video. One video shows a crime scene marker with the number 8 on it, left at the scene. I was told by someone who knows the area it would have been at the west side, so I moved it there last night.

Should I move it back to the east?

The dispatch recording states that she was on the freeway, on northbound I5, just south of Yolo.

I know there has been inconsistencies and people stating she was on one of the county roads, but that isn't what is said. Now that may not be where she was dropped off initially.

https://m.soundcloud.com/user-941170222/finding-sherri-papini-yolo-county-sheriffs-dispatch

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[bluesneakers]

If she was able to move with it, it would defeat the purpose, no?

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Right, so how did she get from the rural road to the highway? Why chain her to something she can move with - just to slow her down?