Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #9

[JeannaT]

I don't recall him saying they were going to wait a few days and then get around to interviewing her. I don't have a direct quote or link but I believe IIRC he did say that OVER the new few days they'd be interviewing her more, or something to that effect. I could be wrong, so if you have a link that would be helpful.

I'm willing to accept your memory of what he said. Over the next few days they'd be interviewing her more. That's a very casual statement, IMHO.

 

[JeannaT]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1365821/911-dispatch-day-Sherri-Papini-Yolo.html

"Is she on the freeway? Confirmed, north bound I-5 just south of Yolo."

??

What are you questioning? I think the "northbound" means the northbound lane, not that she herself was north bound and moving. Is that what you are wondering?

 

[Ontario Mom]

Well, the first statement by the sheriff downplayed physical injuries and mentioned emotional injuries. The article has since been changed to remove that quote, but it's been immortalized in the previous thread.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12955477


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I've never been kidnapped and had the tar beaten out of me. Thank God. But if I had, I think being FOUND and reunited with my husband and kids (eventually) I'd be way more of an emotional trainwreck than I would be concerned about my physical injuries. I'm sure my emotional reaction would be more impactful to those observing than what my physical injuries might be.

moo.

 

[Logansden77]

re: 'heavily battered'

I'm taking that description with a grain of salt.

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Why? That's a direct quote from LE on scene? Why would you take that with a grain of salt?

 

[Deleted member 39678]

The thing is, Sherri would know all that. That shouldn't be up for people to ponder and question. She knows all this information, where she was dropped off, about how long before people stopped to help her, about how far she traveled. She's not a 2 year old lost in the woods, where you just kind of have to wonder what happened.

LE knows all this stuff, or should, and should get this out to the public IMHO.

I'm sure that Sherri gave as much information as possible to responding officers. I have no reason to think otherwise.

I'm not sure that LE has to release this information to the public at this time. We'll find out sooner or later. If for some reason Sherri didn't cooperate with LE we'll hear about it. Until then I'm assuming she gave LE what she could given the circumstances. JMO

 

[IllinoisMissing]

I don't recall him saying they were going to wait a few days and then get around to interviewing her. I don't have a direct quote or link but I believe IIRC he did say that OVER the new few days they'd be interviewing her more, or something to that effect. I could be wrong, so if you have a link that would be helpful.

"Obviously she was emotional and quite upset but elated to be free and so we were able to get some information from her. In the days following this, we’ll be following up with her," Bosenko said. “We hope that we can get additional information to identify (the suspects), maybe the SUV, and then hopefully they can be found and brought to justice.”

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[JeannaT]

I'm sure that Sherri gave as much information as possible to responding officers. I have no reason to think otherwise.

I'm not sure that LE has to release this information to the public at this time. We'll find out sooner or later. If for some reason Sherri didn't cooperate with LE we'll hear about it. Until then I'm assuming she gave LE what she could given the circumstances. JMO

I'm not suggesting at all that she didn't cooperate. I'm suggesting they're not reacting in the usual way.

 

[AceDetective]

How in the world can that have any more than ONE meaning? The responding CHP officer said she was battered. The medical staff at the hospital treated her injuries. The Shasta Co. sheriff stated she HAD injuries.

No, we don't know what kind they were, where they were on her physical body or anything else and LE in this case is specifically NOT releasing that info to the public right now - for who knows what reasons. Maybe it's because they were torturous in nature, maybe it's because they would be personally humiliating to Sherri to have the public know, or maybe it's for another reason. LE is not obligated to explain why they don't release certain details and we (the public) are not entitled to certain details of an ongoing investigation. Either way, for whatever reason they're not disclosing to the public what kind of injuries Sherri sustained, she did/does in fact have them.

The 'heavily battered' was just a non-official initial assessment by an officer, taken at the side of a freeway at night. We can take from that that she APPEARED to be heavily battered, to at least one officer, under the given circumstances. THAT'S IT.

Your initial question was, " I can't understand why this is still a question for some people." Maybe I misunderstood the question... we seem to be agreeing that the extent of her injuries are completely unknown.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Since learning that Sherri was still attached to the chain and the object the chain had to be attached to I am thinking she was able to keep pushing the object back and forth and was able to finally rip it from its base.

These thoughts are just something I have thought about based on what we know now:

I also have thought about other cases where there always seems to be a leader when team criminals are involved and the other one will be more like a follower and more passive. Maybe the follower wasn't as mean and brutal as the dominate leader. Maybe Sherri was able to communicate with the second female when the first one wasn't around and convinced her to let her go free. This way they may have both tugged and pushed on the object until they got it loose.

To keep her chained the suspect would have used a padlock on the chain to secure it, imo, so if the second one agreed to help her she may have not had the key to unlock the padlock so Sherri had no chance at freedom unless she left while still attached to the chain and object. The leader may have been asleep at the time. She may have been held in an outbuilding or shed on the undisclosed property location or the dominate female may have been passed out from using drugs or alcohol or both.

Since she was found at 4:30 am she most likely was freed during the dark of night and made her way to where she was found.

It breaks my heart to read she was badly beaten. There is no telling what she has gone through and may never overcome it all. She had to be terrified being out there in chains along with the weight of whatever the object is...until she finally saw help arriving.

I have even wondered if these two females kidnapped Sherri so they could get money from men if they offered her up to be raped while being held. Just some of the things that have gone through my mind.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Yes, I edited my post.

I am not quite sure how she did that in the dark and chained to something. But I've given up speculating. It's all too strange.

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I'd just head toward where the headlights were. Which is what I suspect she did. We still don't know what she was chained to. For whatever reason in my own head, I'm thinking she was chained to something that was actually on her, restricting her in some way. Not that she was chained to some object on the ground or something. Of course that's pure speculation.

 

[DexterMorgan]

jmo

let's just drop the battered discussion.

Jmo.

She obviously had no broken bones and wasn't raped.

So let's be thankful and concentrate on the 2 perps or the why and how. Jmo

 

[Logansden77]

jmo

let's just drop the battered discussion.

Jmo.

She obviously had no broken bones and wasn't raped.

So let's be thankful and concentrate on the 2 perps or the why and how. Jmo

You have no info that collaborates that.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I'm not suggesting at all that she didn't cooperate. I'm suggesting they're not reacting in the usual way.

Okay, you want LE to release more information. You could be right and they're making a big mistake. I'm not so sure and will wait to see.

 

[february29]

jmo

let's just drop the battered discussion.

Jmo.

She obviously had no broken bones and wasn't raped.
Jmo

How do you know she wasn't raped and no broken bones?


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[Ontario Mom]

I'm willing to accept your memory of what he said. Over the next few days they'd be interviewing her more. That's a very casual statement, IMHO.

I disagree. I think it's standard protocol for investigators to interview victims of violent crime repeatedly after the initial crime has been discovered. In fact, I've seen the statement a countless number of times. Sometimes they go back daily, sometimes they give them some time with family, etc. Obviously every jurisdiction handles it a little differently but I found zero red flags about what the sheriff said.

moo.

 

[glassheater]

Since learning that Sherri was still attached to the chain and the object the chain had to be attached to I am thinking she was able to keep pushing the object back and forth and was able to finally rip it from its base.

I wonder too if they knew that being attached to an object would slow down her being discovered time which provided a nice head start for them in their getaway.

 

[JeannaT]

Okay, you want LE to release more information. You could be right and they're making a big mistake. I'm not so sure and will wait to see.

You know, I'm not sure I want them to release more information at this time. I want, eventually, to understand why they aren't doing that.

 

[Deleted member 718]

What are you questioning? I think the "northbound" means the northbound lane, not that she herself was north bound and moving. Is that what you are wondering?

No, I got that part From pictures of where she was allegedly dropped off, it appeared to be an area of on-off ramps from the small highway leading to the freeway. But CHP says she's on the freeway. So, I'm assuming she was able to make her from where she was dropped off, to the freeway to flag down help. hth

http://abcnews.go.com/images/US/WireAP_cf6e3266d20b4b25bd0af47ca9408751.jpg

 

[DexterMorgan]

Cases like Rachel Mattice and others do make people skeptical.

But it is our job to nod Okay until something says different.

So let's leave the Hinky Meters at the door for now. Jmo.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I wonder too if they knew that being attached to an object would slow down her being discovered time which provided a nice head start for them in their getaway.

Slowing her down so she wouldn't make it to the freeway until they were long gone makes good sense to me.