CA CA - William Cierzan, 58, Santa Clarita Valley, 26 Jan 2017 #2

[GigTu]

“Just when I think he’s dead, I think ‘no.’ They searched 80 acres. There are searchers out there every day,” Will Cierzan’s sister, Andrea Peck told The Signal Tuesday. “That’s when we start to think

‘Is there a possibility he’s OK?’ We’re hanging in there.”
Homicide detectives continue to work diligently on the case, she said, but sharing nothing of what they’ve uncovered or learned with the family.

https://signalscv.com/2017/04/25/no-sign-will-cierzan-3-months/

RBBM : That's interesting.

It is interesting indeed. I'm sure the family is in the dark for the same reasons we are, and the same reasons TMS is no longer posting search information here.

I'm pretty certain we all know "who" is responsible for Will's disappearance, and I'm pretty certain we all know that same person is avoiding LE and the media for a reason. I have complete faith that LE is way ahead of my Juggalo theory, and they are digging deep into the many connections of any family members that may have relationships with that group of undesirables. In reading about them, it sounds like kids grow up into adults and continue to follow the gang. If so, there could be much older people involved in this crime and cover up. That may explain the silence from the nephew's side of the family. Only time will tell.

 

[Dushi]

"One of these days I'm going write my own article.
Correction: foul play/suspicious circumstances are suspected. And Kari Dauer-Hewitt is a former administrator, no longer with SCVEN.
And, there's a phenomenal team of people, not just one person or searching daily. None of us wish to be named."

https://www.facebook.com/MissingWillCierzan/


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I may have missed it, but are you aware of a link where LE says foul play is suspected?
I think we all think there has been foul play, I just don't recall it being made official. I have likely missed it or forgotten

And for me, at this point , I don't care whose name is used to explain the searches, as long as there are searches.
All the better that the reporter used the wrong name, as per the above post, no one wishes to be named

 

[Dushi]

RBBM : That's interesting.

The silence may be making a lot of sense now
Families talk to each other

 

[GigTu]

I may have missed it, but are you aware of a link where LE says foul play is suspected?
I think we all think there has been foul play, I just don't recall it being made official. I have likely missed it or forgotten

And for me, at this point , I don't care whose name is used to explain the searches, as long as there are searches.
All the better that the reporter used the wrong name, as per the above post, no one wishes to be named

In the attached link, the article says any suspicion of foul play is not confirmed.

 

[GigTu]

The silence may be making a lot of sense now
Families talk to each other

Razz raised this question earlier, pondering which side a family member might take.

 

[Dushi]

Razz raised this question earlier, pondering which side a family member might take.

I recall that.
We don't know anything about the family dynamics . Hard to say how each person may feel

 

[katydid23]

So, is the nephew a juggalo?


ETA_ === I started a thread on the topic of juggalos here, somewhere. I started that thread after noticing that several recent cases I had followed had deep 'juggalo connections.' [ Hailey Dunn, prime suspect was ICP fan---Celia Cass, there were juggalos connected---Baby Lisa Irwin---potential suspect, juggalo]

 

[SmartSassyBBW]

So, is the nephew a juggalo?


ETA_ === I started a thread on the topic of juggalos here, somewhere. I started that thread after noticing that several recent cases I had followed had deep 'juggalo connections.' [ Hailey Dunn, prime suspect was ICP fan---Celia Cass, there were juggalos connected---Baby Lisa Irwin---potential suspect, juggalo]

There is a pic on an old FB post of his with a group of guys purporting to be. It's really weird to me that he hasn't taken his pages down.


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[Razz]

The *coff* music group Insane Clown Posse (ICP) has a following, and those super fans are call Juggalos. I looked up some song lyrics, and every single song is about violence and acts of evil. If a group of people are bonded based on this foundation, and that group is more like an underground cult that acts like a gang, it seems to me those people would all stand by each other, help each other and cover for each other. If a group of impressionable teens grows up following this cult, adopting the song lyrics as if they're bible verses, that would become a very dangerous group. And if they are motivated and guided by song lyrics, who's to say they also wouldn't adopt other music group's lyrics that fit into their modus operendi? For example, Necro. That band has a song that's literally a guide on how to dispose of a body.

At the surface it all seems far fetched. But if you really look into Juggalos, you will quickly learn that it's basically a life style choice based on brainwashing, and the group members are dangerous if they really stand by their gang.

Per the lyrics, what are the directions for disposing of a body? It could be revealing.

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[GigTu]

Per the lyrics, what are the directions for disposing of a body? It could be revealing.

necro. dead body disposal.

 

[Razz]

necro. dead body disposal.

Well interesting but I'm not sure that's the best way. I will summarize so if you don't wish to read it, please skip this by.

Drain blood in a tub. Do it while naked.

Dismember and double bag in different bags.

Take to different dumpsters.

Spray the bag with pepper spray to keep animals away.

I remember reading that doing this in a bath tub is not always advisable. Blood can remain in the pipes.

I sanitized this quite a bit. Necro is
incredibly graphic and sick.

Gotta wonder why kids and/or adults listen to this cr#p.



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[GigTu]

Evil !!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Riverking21]

Also just to clarify the Juggalo scene are heavy drug users and they are big into Faygo and "lean". So it's possible there was some mix of the drink they they could've given Will to "knock" him out. Also FYI Feb 17th is also Juggalo day. Not sure any of that is relevant but figured I'd pass it along.


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[Razz]

Also just to clarify the Juggalo scene are heavy drug users and they are big into Faygo and "lean". So it's possible there was some mix of the drink they they could've given Will to "knock" him out. Also FYI Feb 17th is also Juggalo day. Not sure any of that is relevant but figured I'd pass it along.


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I wonder if WC had a decongestant.
That along with a sweet drink and Skittles makes "lean". Can't imagine WC even touching that.

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[GigTu]

I personally don't think beverages are involved in his disappearance. Violence, yes.

 

[Riverking21]

I found another interesting nugget while doing some research online. It appears on Jan 26th ICP announced they were planning a million Juggalo march in DC in September.

Probably doesn't mean much, but figured I pass it along


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[GigTu]

I found another interesting nugget while doing some research online. It appears on Jan 26th ICP announced they were planning a million Juggalo march in DC in September.

Probably doesn't mean much, but figured I pass it along

I jut looked it up. Found this link, and holy Toledo.... look at the goggles on the guy in the banner... look familiar?
http://www.metalsucks.net/2017/01/03/the-juggalos-are-planning-a-march-on-washington-d-c/

 

[GigTu]

For the record, I don't think it's necessarily fair to correlate violence with following a certain band. However, I think the type of people who follow that particular band generally group together and stand by each other like a family, through thick and thin. Even if something accidental happened and in no way was violence intended, I think more than one person is involved in covering it up. jmo

 

[661 Rider]

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Human-Remains-Lake-Hughes-Found-420675073.html

 

[Riverking21]

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Human-Remains-Lake-Hughes-Found-420675073.html

Interesting, and no info on the condition on the remains. We are also missing Bryce that way as well.


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