Cal-Sag Channel Search #2

[DeltaDawn]

Thank you SS..I really appreciate you doing that. Also let me say that I am happy that you are home safe and sound and warm.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Thank you SS..I really appreciate you doing that. Also let me say that I am happy that you are home safe and sound and warm.

:blowkiss: Thanks, DD! Not home yet, but hopefully very soon!! I want that house to be HOT before I go back into it! LOL

You are welcome, by the way.

 

[DeltaDawn]

Oh my goodness SS .. that is terrible that you are still not home yet. I am thankful you had your daughter are within travel distance so you did not have to endure this time in the cold.

 

[Leila]

Here are today’s pics from the canal:
http://www.randymucha.com/canal2.htm

Wow Randy...........great pictures! Where exactly is Leo's Bar and Grill located......Bolingbrook, Oak Brook?

 

[i.b.nora]

Leo's Bar & Grill 201 E Romeo Rd, Romeoville, IL 60446

 

[RandyMucha]

Wow Randy...........great pictures! Where exactly is Leo's Bar and Grill located......Bolingbrook, Oak Brook?

2-3 blocks from the canal.

 

[Schmerty_Jones]

So DrewP is familiar with that area! Has the Bar & grill been search as well as the are around it?

 

[SuziQ]

Well depending on the timeline we have been given through leaks etc..it maybe just enough off to not support that info SS.

I am thinking that Drew had to give Tom the booze because Tom would not have had any in his house. Also the pills I am sure Drew provided to Tom so he could possibly od. Drew reads people very well, especially those close to him.

Maybe the timeline is off just enough for that little trip to LEO's to take place. The car moving may not have been that neccessary at that point. The car was already at the airport (per Drew saying that is where Stacy told him she left it)..so maybe it never was returned until after Drew disposed of the body.

But I also want to ask who was the person and what blog where we first heard of Drew's brother trying to commit suicide after the event. It was very early on and I am thinking whoever that was, I would love to read their more recent posts. Was it Greta, Steve's or Cassandra's? When that was put out there it was not beleived ..now we know it was true...maybe they have shared more info and we weren't aware?

It was a post at Topix, I think Indygal found it first. The posters name was Flo. I'll try to go find it.

 

[SuziQ]

Found one of my old posts:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1820019&postcount=83

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I'm still catching up here. But are these two posts the rumor posts you all are looking for?

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...&postcount=317

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http://www.topix.com/city/bolingbroo...im-of-betrayal

Sunday Nov 11

I heard that drew's bro flipped while bing interviewed and is now on the 2nd floor at st joe's hosp. the brother confessed to helping drew stuff the body in a 55gal drum and pouring concrete in with it..then they dumped her in a body of water, but he couldn't remember where.

Monday Nov 12

cant reveal my source but it is someone very very close to the investigation..also found out that it was actually a 30gal plastic drum

Monday Nov 12

I thimk they want 2 find the body first

ETA: I'm not sure any of the above have to do with the real barrel moving man. It was just interesting in hindsight and I wanted to post this



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The below item was originally posted by Greta on November 12th, I had completely forgotten about it until a poster at Greta dug it up. Very interesting and goes to show, sometimes there's a little bit of truth to every rumor.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2007/11...etersons-home/

by Greta Van Susteren
Email just received from FNC’s Jeff Goldblatt:
The email below is to just give you the behind the scenes…it takes you inside our work….and also note how rumors arise, and we are compelled to chase them down ….just in case they are true….also make sure you read my note after Jeff’s email:
From: Goldblatt, Jeff
To: Van Susteren, Greta
Sent: Mon Nov 12 11:39:30 2007
Subject: Morning
There is rampant speculation out here in Bolingbrook among some of my competitors covering this story. The latest rumor: that a relative or friend of Drew Peterson has committed suicide, because the heat of police questioning got to him. It’s mind boggling how misinformation gets spread on some of these stories. Then again, it’s our business to gather information, and you still have to turn a story, even when police aren’t talking.
FYI: the Will County State’s Attorney will not reveal when the exhumation of the body of Kathleen Savio will take place. However, it seems as if today is unlikely, because of the observance of Veteran’s Day. Typically, this is a day for families to visit cemeteries to pay respects to loved ones, and it seems implausible that a high-profile exhumation would take place, and potentially disrupt those visiting other gravesites.
Have a good one…
Note: Jeff emailed me again to make sure you know that neither Sgt. Peterson’s brother nor Ric Mims (his friend) is dead. The above is meant just to show you how rumors send us scrambling…

 

[Leila]

Just a possible theory about Thomas Morphey...........DP picks Tom up at the park and they go to the coffee shop and talk for a bit. DP tells Tom about all his troubles......Stacy wants a divorce, she's been seeing a bunch of guys, and they argued about it and she's left him. He's been out searching for her all day. He tells Toms he has to meet someone and will be back in a little while, leaves his cell phone there, telling Tom not to answer it. While DP is gone, the phone rings and Tom sees the caller ID showing "Stacy."

DP comes back to the coffee shop, bringing a bottle of whatever alcohol was Tom's favorite. He says, "hey the guy I had to meet gave me this bottle. I've already got a couple at home - here you go, my gift to you." He and Tom go to the Peterson home where Tom helps DP move a rectangular container from the bedroom to the Denali. Tom is a little shook up because that container felt warm to the touch. DP takes Tom home and along the way say, "go on take a swig, after being clean and sober for as long as you've been, you aren't going to get hooked again on just a couple of swigs." So, Tom opens the bottle and takes a couple of swigs.

After DP drops Tom off at home, Tom calls his neighbor and say he has to talk to him. The neighbor, Walter, says to come to the garage door. Walter smells the alcohol on Tom's breath when he comes in. Tom tells Walter about the evening's events and after a while Tom goes home.

After leaving Tom off at his home, DP goes to the canal area to dispose of the container. But with the diving weights the container is too heavy for DP to wrestle out of the back of the Denali himself and get it over the side of the canal. At 11:26pm Cassandra calls and DP realizes that Cassandra is out looking and his time for disposing of the body is getting short. He's got to dispose of the container and get back to the house before Cassandra comes to his house again. When he talks to Cassandra, he's out of breath from the exertion of trying to wrestle with the container himself.

DP drives back to Tom's house and knocks on the door. He tells Tom he's having trouble unloading the container at it's destination and he needs him to help him again. Tom is too scared of DP to refuse, and goes with him. They drive to the canal and get the container out of the car and over the side into the canal.

By this time, Tom is sure that Stacy is dead in that container. He's real shook up and trying to appear calm. DP says, "Hey, lets stop at Leo's for a bite to eat." When they get there, he orders Tom a drink, and then another, and by the time they leave, Tom is pretty drunk. DP reasons that the next day when Tom gets up he's going to be confused about the events of the night before.

The next day Tom remembers a lot and distraught by what he thinks he's involved in and he takes some tranquilizers to calm down. He overdoses and his girlfriend calls 911.

But, what DP didn't know is that Tom spoke to someone in between DP dropping Tom off, and then picking him up again later that night.

 

[thesleuther]

Just a possible theory about Thomas Morphey...........DP picks Tom up at the park and they go to the coffee shop and talk for a bit. DP tells Tom about all his troubles......Stacy wants a divorce, she's been seeing a bunch of guys, and they argued about it and she's left him. He's been out searching for her all day. He tells Toms he has to meet someone and will be back in a little while, leaves his cell phone there, telling Tom not to answer it. While DP is gone, the phone rings and Tom sees the caller ID showing "Stacy."

DP comes back to the coffee shop, bringing a bottle of whatever alcohol was Tom's favorite. He says, "hey the guy I had to meet gave me this bottle. I've already got a couple at home - here you go, my gift to you." He and Tom go to the Peterson home where Tom helps DP move a rectangular container from the bedroom to the Denali. Tom is a little shook up because that container felt warm to the touch. DP takes Tom home and along the way say, "go on take a swig, after being clean and sober for as long as you've been, you aren't going to get hooked again on just a couple of swigs." So, Tom opens the bottle and takes a couple of swigs.

After DP drops Tom off at home, Tom calls his neighbor and say he has to talk to him. The neighbor, Walter, says to come to the garage door. Walter smells the alcohol on Tom's breath when he comes in. Tom tells Walter about the evening's events and after a while Tom goes home.

After leaving Tom off at his home, DP goes to the canal area to dispose of the container. But with the diving weights the container is too heavy for DP to wrestle out of the back of the Denali himself and get it over the side of the canal. At 11:26pm Cassandra calls and DP realizes that Cassandra is out looking and his time for disposing of the body is getting short. He's got to dispose of the container and get back to the house before Cassandra comes to his house again. When he talks to Cassandra, he's out of breath from the exertion of trying to wrestle with the container himself.

DP drives back to Tom's house and knocks on the door. He tells Tom he's having trouble unloading the container at it's destination and he needs him to help him again. Tom is too scared of DP to refuse, and goes with him. They drive to the canal and get the container out of the car and over the side into the canal.

By this time, Tom is sure that Stacy is dead in that container. He's real shook up and trying to appear calm. DP says, "Hey, lets stop at Leo's for a bite to eat." When they get there, he orders Tom a drink, and then another, and by the time they leave, Tom is pretty drunk. DP reasons that the next day when Tom gets up he's going to be confused about the events of the night before.

The next day Tom remembers a lot and distraught by what he thinks he's involved in and he takes some tranquilizers to calm down. He overdoses and his girlfriend calls 911.

But, what DP didn't know is that Tom spoke to someone in between DP dropping Tom off, and then picking him up again later that night.

Verrrrrrrrrrry interesting and plausible..........hmmmmmm.....

 

[Camper]

Helloooooooo SuziQ, I remember reading that DP SOLD 'Leo's' some time ago. Am I wrong?

Would be interesting to see WHO owns Leo's now? What are Leo's hours of business? They [Leo's Bar] would NOT be open on a Sunday night - am I right ?. Were the locks changed when ownership changed?

Some of our posters have access to dig up real estate records and answers to the questions I pose here.

Tom could have been slipped a 'Mickey', thats what they called it in the olde movies and crime books I used to read. Maybe when we read that Tom was dropped off at his house, it may have a literal meaning, 'dropped/plopped off etc.

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[robthomaseyes]

I tried to find the hours for Leo's, but couldn't. So if that is the bar Drew used to own, it's possible he may know about or even have created a hidden cubby or recess, or hollow wall when he owned it (sounds nutty, I know, but this guy is insane, IMO). He could have picked the locks that Sunday night if the bar was closed. It's a longshot, but something that you'd think police would check, just in case. They are in the habit of checking possibilities, no matter how far fetched.

 

[DeltaDawn]

I think the police did check the area outside the bar and around the bar..someone wrote that comment earlier.

If Drew frequented that bar then he probably knew that general area fairly well..and knew that not too many people would be out and about on the canal that night at 11-11:30 PM.

I wonder if they will be searching the canal again today?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I would hope they are still searching the canal. As difficult a job as it is, it needs to be done. Since the search started there, Drew's tune has changed, imo. He certainly isn't cracking as many bad jokes now.

Are bars not open on Sunday nights in IL? Guess that would dispel any theory that Drew had Tom out drinking alcohol. (Again, Walter did not say he was drunk!! I think he took the shots or drink when he arrived home.)

 

[i.b.nora]

The bar that Drew and his wife Kathleen owned was named Suds Pub
(if I remember correctly) and it was located in Montgomery.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

The bar that Drew and his wife Kathleen owned was named Suds Pub
(if I remember correctly) and it was located in Montgomery.

Yes, you are correct.

 

[DeltaDawn]

Since LEO' is a bar and grill..if they serve food would they not be allowed to serve drinks on Sunday?

I removed drunk and changed it to a couple of drinks..my bad..I do not want to present Tom in a bad light. I think that if he had not been drinking for 10 years, that for him to even have one drink would be out of character for him now. I think that shows how shook up and scared Tom must have been. Can't even imagine what a horrible thing that would have been..to realize yuor sister-in- law may be in a container you are moving..ugh!

 

[dee10134]

I tried to find the hours for Leo's, but couldn't. So if that is the bar Drew used to own, it's possible he may know about or even have created a hidden cubby or recess, or hollow wall when he owned it (sounds nutty, I know, but this guy is insane, IMO). He could have picked the locks that Sunday night if the bar was closed. It's a longshot, but something that you'd think police would check, just in case. They are in the habit of checking possibilities, no matter how far fetched.

DP never owned Leo's. He owned a bar further north of Leo's.

As far as hours go, I'm pretty sure that Leo's opens around 8 or 9 am and closes around 2 am 7 days a week. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's got a 2 am liquor license.

 

[dee10134]

Helloooooooo SuziQ, I remember reading that DP SOLD 'Leo's' some time ago. Am I wrong?

Would be interesting to see WHO owns Leo's now? What are Leo's hours of business? They [Leo's Bar] would NOT be open on a Sunday night - am I right ?. Were the locks changed when ownership changed?



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DP NEVER owned Leo's. He had a bar further north.

Yes, Leo's IS open on a Sunday night. I believe they're open 7 days a week, from 8 or 9 am until 2 am.