Deceased/Not Found Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 Jun 2014 - #14

[kaley]

If it's a closed group info posted can't be paraphrased here.

Ok sorry about that. Can i copy and paste the quote?

 

[Coldpizza]

Ok sorry about that. Can i copy and paste the quote?

No you can't, but thanks for asking. :smile:

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[goodasgold]

I think it was one of the media people sitting at the end of the Airdrie acreage driveway on July 5 that tweeted something about bodies being found. Then he removed the comment. Maybe he was listening to police scanners and heard something like "got something", and he assumed it was bodies.

I know there was confusion with the Ontario family being found and the reporter did say maybe they found a body the day the ambulance was out there for the LE heat caution. IMO

 

[Cherchri]

I know there was confusion with the Ontario family being found and the reporter did say maybe they found a body the day the ambulance was out there for the LE heat caution. IMO

No I remember the tweet myself. The guy claimed to be with search and rescue and a ham radio operator. It is, Im sure, back in early threads. From around July 6th - 12th would be my best guess. He was tweeting from the roadside in Airdrie.

 

[winnnancy]

The black SUV on the Airdrie property. Was it ever removed?

 

[stan laurel]

not really important info but here goes; so the L's house was valued at $693k, sold for $705, which there was a lease back arrangement with the new owner at about $1000 per mo and some left over for bills and such, bla-bla-bla. [modsnip]

 

[Sillybilly]

No I remember the tweet myself. The guy claimed to be with search and rescue and a ham radio operator. It is, Im sure, back in early threads. From around July 6th - 12th would be my best guess. He was tweeting from the roadside in Airdrie.

Just want to chime in that my recollection is exactly what you have posted Cherchri. I have a particular interest in anything SAR related and recall being exceptionally po'd about his tweet because of his SAR involvement.

 

[deugirtni]

Hmmmm

I think it was one of the media people sitting at the end of the Airdrie acreage driveway on July 5 that tweeted something about bodies being found. Then he removed the comment. Maybe he was listening to police scanners and heard something like "got something", and he assumed it was bodies.

 

[Deleted member 117120]

No I remember the tweet myself. The guy claimed to be with search and rescue and a ham radio operator. It is, Im sure, back in early threads. From around July 6th - 12th would be my best guess. He was tweeting from the roadside in Airdrie.

Yes that is correct Cherchri and IIRC our WS Kittymeow was on scene as well. But you are correct it had nothing to do with the family in Ontario found in vehicle. I will see if I can find a link of the tweeter.

 

[deugirtni]

Lotsa movin goin on, huh?

not really important info but here goes; so the L's house was valued at $693k, sold for $705, which there was a lease back arrangement with the new owner at about $1000 per mo and some left over for bills and such, bla-bla-bla. [modsnip]

 

[otto]

not really important info but here goes; so the L's house was valued at $693k, sold for $705, which there was a lease back arrangement with the new owner at about $1000 per mo and some left over for bills and such, bla-bla-bla. [modsnip]

The Liknes couple was apparently moving to Edmonton and they bought a condo in Mazatlan.

The tax assessment was about $693k, but houses often sell for much more than the city tax assessment value.

I don't recall reading what the Liknes couple paid in rent for the house at 123 38A Ave. SW. ... do you remember where you saw that?

"The couple had recently bought a house in Edmonton and were selling some of their things before they made the move."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...than-o-brien-kathy-and-alvin-liknes-1.2707268

 

[Krystine]

The black SUV on the Airdrie property. Was it ever removed?

That black SUV stuck in the reeds with all four doors open on day 1 of the acreage search...yes, I have wondered about that too. I don't recall anything more reported about it. Am I wrong?

 

[Blue Amethyst]

I was thinking last night about how AL was a larger person than DG. We have talked about DG and his involvement with chemicals. So I thought what if he arrived at AL's house and whoever answered the door got a face full of chemical. Your first reaction would be to put your hands up to your eyes and you sure would be an easy target to whack on the head. We had a friend tell us once to not keep a weapon by your bed but keep a can of spider or wasp spray. It would sure stop an intruder.

 

[OutOfTheDarkness]

I was thinking last night about how AL was a larger person than DG. We have talked about DG and his involvement with chemicals. So I thought what if he arrived at AL's house and whoever answered the door got a face full of chemical. Your first reaction would be to put your hands up to your eyes and you sure would be an easy target to whack on the head. We had a friend tell us once to not keep a weapon by your bed but keep a can of spider or wasp spray. It would sure stop an intruder.

Your first reaction would also be to scream in pain... at your door... late at night in your quiet neighborhood... for everyone to hear.

Not exactly a reaction you'd want if you were the perp.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

sillybilly, was just looking at your (fabulous) timeline and only noticed only AL's patents on there. I thought DG's were on there also, unless they are and I missed them(?) Not sure...

Anyways, I noticed while looking at the patent info website there's also a Douglas B Garland that filed a patent I think the same as the DG one on there. Looks like possibly another alias. DBG might've been used at some point or it's a typo/mistake.

Or are these not the same DG??? I'm not sure if it's the same DG, although I think it is, can't remember the discussion on WS about DG's patents in detail.

http://www.patentbuddy.com/Inventor/Garland-Douglas-B/10764251
http://www.patentbuddy.com/pages/inventor-pages/inventorSearch.jsf

 

[Sillybilly]

sillybilly, was just looking at your (fabulous) timeline and only noticed only AL's patents on there. I thought DG's were on there also, unless they are and I missed them(?) Not sure...

Anyways, I noticed while looking at the patent info website there's also a Douglas B Garland that filed a patent I think the same as the DG one on there. Looks like possibly another alias. DBG might've been used at some point or it's a typo/mistake.

Or are these not the same DG??? I'm not sure if it's the same DG, although I think it is, can't remember the discussion on WS about DG's patents in detail.

http://www.patentbuddy.com/Inventor/Garland-Douglas-B/10764251
http://www.patentbuddy.com/pages/inventor-pages/inventorSearch.jsf

AFAIK, that's a different DG of Toronto. Patent application date was 1978 (our DG would have only been 18 y.o.). I am not aware of any patents related to our DG.

 

[goodasgold]

sillybilly, was just looking at your (fabulous) timeline and only noticed only AL's patents on there. I thought DG's were on there also, unless they are and I missed them(?) Not sure...

Anyways, I noticed while looking at the patent info website there's also a Douglas B Garland that filed a patent I think the same as the DG one on there. Looks like possibly another alias. DBG might've been used at some point or it's a typo/mistake.

Or are these not the same DG??? I'm not sure if it's the same DG, although I think it is, can't remember the discussion on WS about DG's patents in detail.

http://www.patentbuddy.com/Inventor/Garland-Douglas-B/10764251
http://www.patentbuddy.com/pages/inventor-pages/inventorSearch.jsf

Not sure about the patent but you may be on to something with the alias. Bob is a nickname for Robert. So he could have very well used DBG.

 

[otto]

not really important info but here goes; so the L's house was valued at $693k, sold for $705, which there was a lease back arrangement with the new owner at about $1000 per mo and some left over for bills and such, bla-bla-bla. [modsnip]

If that is the house that Alvin and Kathryn bought in Edmonton (or Evanburg), doesn't it seem a bit fishy? Is it believable that they were going to live there, or was that simply an address to use while living in Mexico ... more or less an address in Canada so they could access pension, health care, and other benefit of being Canadian?

 

[Slebby]

If that is the house that Alvin and Kathryn bought in Edmonton (or Evanburg), doesn't it seem a bit fishy? Is it believable that they were going to live there, or was that simply an address to use while living in Mexico ... more or less an address in Canada so they could access pension, health care, and other benefit of being Canadian?

I don't know. I might do the same thing if I was dealing with a bankruptcy at a time in my life when I want to be retiring. I'm an Albertan through and through, if my financial fortunes took a big hit, I'd liquidate everything I can and move to a small town not too far from an urban center (Calgary or Edmonton) so I could take advantage of really low real estate prices.

I'm no expert but I think most Canadian retirees maintain a home base in Canada when they live the "snowbird" lifestyle. I've seen a lot of retired acquaintances downsize to an efficient small house or condo for the part of the year they spend in Canada. I don't expect many move to Mexico (or other warm places) permanently. As for pension and Canadian health care or benefits, by the time I retire, I would consider it something I have earned and am entitled to.

IMHO

 

[otto]

I don't know. I might do the same thing if I was dealing with a bankruptcy at a time in my life when I want to be retiring. I'm an Albertan through and through, if my financial fortunes took a big hit, I'd liquidate everything I can and move to a small town not too far from an urban center (Calgary or Edmonton) so I could take advantage of really low real estate prices.

I'm no expert but I think most Canadian retirees maintain a home base in Canada when they live the "snowbird" lifestyle. I've seen a lot of retired acquaintances downsize to an efficient small house or condo for the part of the year they spend in Canada. I don't expect many move to Mexico (or other warm places) permanently. As for pension and Canadian health care or benefits, by the time I retire, I would consider it something I have earned and am entitled to.

IMHO

Isn't there something about having to live in Canada for six months of the year in order to qualify, or can anyone that is a Canadian citizen live anywhere in the world full time, and have the option of accessing the Canadian health care system for the cost of a plane ticket? I wonder how many people keep a cheap, permanent address in Canada but live more or less full time in another country. Is it believable that Alvin - the oil/gas/construction man, and Kathryn - pillar of her community, are going to downsize to an old house in the middle of nowhere? It's possible, I suppose, but does it seem realistic that they planned to live the Mexico retiree life and the little shack in the sticks life?