Deceased/Not Found Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 Jun 2014 - #17

[stan laurel]

My dog's bile is yellow.

coughed up or rear discharged?

can you make him bring some forth on your sidewalk and let it sit for awhile before cleaning it up?

 

[stan laurel]

I heard it was take-out. JO refers to this at her parent's memorial and it is published. I do recall CH saying the same thing about Chinese food and a hug session and it was in a way that I thought she was participating in that, I would like to find her comment. She was also said to have been at the Estate sale in the afternoon.

I also agree that DG had some sort of intel as to what was taking place that weekend. Whether it was thru his parents, sister, AL, or other family member is the mystery!

hmm, so they did do take out or not?

because it really changes the timeframe.

 

[LoisLane]

coughed up or rear discharged?

can you make him bring some forth on your sidewalk and let it sit for awhile before cleaning it up?

Coughed up. He is small so not much. He ate a lot of unknowns this weekend on our nature walk and eats grass to bring it up. So the barf I cleaned up yesterday was full of grass. My concrete has a slight orange color to it (archy farchy idea) so it appears clear or like a water stain. However, I was about to throw his cream bedding in the wash and it has yellow, to thinner streaks of green to brown.

My dogs eat raw food so the poops are quite normal. Unless the one eats a blanket or a sock and that is usually visible...lol!

If he hershey squirts today.. I will let you know!

 

[stan laurel]

What time did they place the order? 10:00pm or 10:30

What time was it delivered? cooked packed and sent 40 minutes, so either 10:40 or 11:10pm
or
Time picked up? who picked it up, prolly AL as KL was in PJ's already, so either 10:30 or 11:00pm and AL still needed to get home from pick up, did he stop at a Macs to pick up a chocolate bar or treats to go home with NO in the morning. when he got home were events unfolding.

If delivered, who paid? AL, KL, DG, ???
or
Who picked it up? AL

Was an order made that was neither picked up, or, a door not answered for delivery? if the usual place the L's ordered from, this may have raised eyebrows

Did someone else answer the door? DG, or ???

If Chinese was ordered, what time did the events of that evening really start or paused?

Were they all on the couch as events unfolded.

Was the word's couch and Chinese just code word for we don't want guests?

 

[stan laurel]

My dogs eat raw food so the poops are quite normal. Unless the one eats a blanket or a sock and that is usually visible...lol!

are the socks and blankets made from raw cotton? it's never good to deviate from their regular diet.

I used to feed my dog fried egg whites (Teflon pan, no oil).

 

[LoisLane]

What time did they place the order? 10:00pm or 10:30

What time was it delivered? cooked packed and sent 40 minutes, so either 10:40 or 11:10pm
or
Time picked up? who picked it up, prolly AL as KL was in PJ's already, so either 10:30 or 11:00pm and AL still needed to get home from pick up, did he stop at a Macs to pick up a chocolate bar or treats to go home with NO in the morning

If delivered, who paid? AL, KL, DG, ???
or
Who picked it up? AL

Was an order made that was neither picked up, or, a door not answered for delivery? if the usual place the L's ordered from, this may have raised eyebrows

Did someone else answer the door? DG, or ???

If Chinese was ordered, what time did the events of that evening really start or paused?

I am thinking the food order would have been placed shortly before or after the estate sale was complete or around dinner time. NO would have been hungry so maybe between 6-8. Maybe AL was still at Winter and picked it up or JO went to pick it up or it was delivered. I will find restaraunts in the area, there are many.

 

[stan laurel]

I am thinking the food order would have been placed shortly before or after the estate sale was complete or around dimner time. NO would have been hungry so maybe between 6-8. Maybe AL was still at Winter and picked it up or JO went to pick it up or it was delivered. I will find restaraunts in the area, there are many.

So it was cold and sitting Chinese not a fresh order.

The best Chinese in cowtown is anything Szechuan and the best is always from those places tucked away between a drycleaners and a tv repair shop in a 70's ultra short-strip mall that lines macleod trail from downtown to out of town. that should narrow it down a bit. honestly though, nobody orders Cantonese in these parts.

 

[stan laurel]

I am thinking the food order would have been placed shortly before or after the estate sale was complete or around dinner time. NO would have been hungry so maybe between 6-8. Maybe AL was still at Winter and picked it up or JO went to pick it up or it was delivered. I will find restaraunts in the area, there are many.

I wonder what the most common route was home from winpet and who their usual take out place was en route?

 

[LoisLane]

are the socks and blankets made from raw cotton? it's never good to deviate from their regular diet.

I used to feed my dog fried egg whites (Teflon pan, no oil).

The socks are not raw cotton and the blankets these days are colorful beach towels because he really went to town on the blankets. My next attempt will be old wool blankets.

They eat raw meat, the just had 8 weeks of duck and are now on lamb for 8 weeks. I have had to eliminate chicken, beef, bison, turkey because we are trying to rid one of them of a skin allergy. So far so good!

 

[LoisLane]

So it was cold and sitting Chinese not a fresh order.

The best Chinese in cowtown is anything Szechuan and the best is always from those places tucked away between a drycleaners and a tv repair shop in a 70's ultra short-strip mall that lines macleod trail from downtown to out of town. that should narrow it down a bit. honestly though, nobody orders Cantonese in these parts.

I used to live in East Village and we would go into Chinatown. No exceptions!
I posted two routes from the L. Home to Macleod yesterday. I will look into restaraunts.

 

[stan laurel]

I used to live in East Village and we would go into Chinatown. No exceptions!
I posted two routes from the L. Home to Macleod yesterday. I will look into restaraunts.

Penneys on thereabouts Lakewood and East Hastings with mean waitresses and looked like a closed-schools cafeteria but the BEST salt pepper squid and deep fried tofu. In Calgary years ago the hands down best Szechuan was from Pak Hut in Chinatown where the tables were plywood on homemade saw horses and table cloths stapled to the plywood and Peter the waiter would only ask you once what you needed so you had to be ready on everything and if his cigarette ash fell onto the table that was your problem and the only graffiti in the bathroom was "if the food wasn't so perfect, it should be shut down for health violations" which was a lie, as it was just not about furnishings and manners, it was place with reeeeeeally good fresh food and not for the squeamish. AL would have eaten here in DT Calgary as would have everyone within 20 blocks and you were hard pressed to get a table over the lunch hours. slight derail

 

[LoisLane]

So it was cold and sitting Chinese not a fresh order.

The best Chinese in cowtown is anything Szechuan and the best is always from those places tucked away between a drycleaners and a tv repair shop in a 70's ultra short-strip mall that lines macleod trail from downtown to out of town. that should narrow it down a bit. honestly though, nobody orders Cantonese in these parts.

Remember JO said she left at 10pm.

 

[Krystine]

Lol...and I'm making soap! (Giving it to some of my family for Christmas!)

Careful with those essential oils, Tink.

 

[Krystine]

Penneys on thereabouts Lakewood and East Hastings with mean waitresses and looked like a closed-schools cafeteria but the BEST salt pepper squid and deep fried tofu. In Calgary years ago the hands down best Szechuan was from Pak Hut in Chinatown where the tables were plywood on homemade saw horses and table cloths stapled to the plywood and Peter the waiter would only ask you once what you needed so you had to be ready on everything and if his cigarette ash fell onto the table that was your problem and the only graffiti in the bathroom was "if the food wasn't so perfect, it should be shut down for health violations" which was a lie, as it was just not about furnishings and manners. AL would have eaten here in DT Calgary as would have everyone within 20 blocks and you were hard pressed to get a table over the lunch hours. slight derail

Deep fried tofu...yummy. Wish I could make it myself but never could squeeze enough of the liquid out of it. Oops, I guess we're a little OT again.

 

[stan laurel]

Remember JO said she left at 10pm.

so it was ordered at ten, before ten, a little after ten? when? when? when?

 

[stan laurel]

The socks are not raw cotton and the blankets these days are colorful beach towels because he really went to town on the blankets. My next attempt will be old wool blankets.

They eat raw meat, the just had 8 weeks of duck and are now on lamb for 8 weeks. I have had to eliminate chicken, beef, bison, turkey because we are trying to rid one of them of a skin allergy. So far so good!

If Putin didn't take Crimea, I would recommend the mud baths and balsamic rinse at their fine canine spas.


I joke, I joke.

 

[Krystine]

I'll tell you in an hour.

When I was driving home from my weekly camping trip I noticed areas where deer had been hit by cars the weeks previous, and you know what? those places were still crimson red. So maybe what was washed off had a chemical reaction with "blood" and went black, or it was bile. Does anyone know the colour of bile when it reacts with air?

or maybe it was a mop being carried to the front of the house to be disposed of in a rented disposal container as I'm sure there was much that had gathered in the house that had no value either sentimental or monetary. Ever stop and look at everything that you've acquired and may have just stored deeper and deeper into your abode?

it was also early into the investigation where every nuance is critical, so it may be nothing.

are loners brazen?

When my critters hork, their bile is yellow too. I'm pretty sure anything that comes from the liver would be yellow.
I think a loner could well be brazen. If I remember my Psych 101, people with extreme introverted tendencies can be quite outgoing, and charismatic for short periods at a time "out there." But they prefer their own company and their own surroundings, because it's easier not to have to be 'on'. If you add in a simmering anger I can definitely see the potential for 'brazen'.

 

[OutOfTheDarkness]

Very interesting.. I am wondering though.. does 'google' have the authority to 'cut' a video which was done by a MSM?

Google is just a search engine. It doesn't edit video or websites. It just links you to the site you searched for. If a MSM outlet like Global edit or remove a video that was there previously, it has nothing to do with Google.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Did it leave 25 feet of dark liquid drag marks?

haha! That was pretty funny otto!

 

[Lalalacasbah]

It has been reported numerous times in numerous MSM that there was 'bad blood' between AL and DG. And yet this MSM news report refers to a telephone interview directly with ALJr, wherein ALJr stated that the business relationship between the two had NOT ended on a bad note. And yet following this, other MSM who had NOT personally interviewed ALJr started reporting there WAS bad blood, and then it became LE's 'leading theory'.

First, considering that ALJr was both AL's son, and also married to DG's own sister (according also to AL, and yet various MSM also seem to get that part wrong by repeatedly reporting them as common-law), you might surmise that of all of the people who might know anything about this, it might be ALJr who would know most about the business relationship and how it ended and when the two last had contact etc. That is MOO.

July 8, 2014
video is currently 03:18 minutes long
Reid Feist
at approximately 1;20 into the video (until approx 2;45)
I have typed what the news reporter said, I believe it to be word for word, other than missing any hums/haws/uhhs; there is NO doubt however, that the reporter did say 'DIDN'T' end on a bad note, the 't' sound is definitely present:



http://globalnews.ca/video/1439105/amber-alert-police-continue-search-near-airdrie"]http://globalnews.ca/video/1439105/amber-alert-police-continue-search-near-airdrie[/URL]
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Then on July 10th, CBC says the opposite:



http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/nathan-o-brien-disappearance-could-be-connected-to-patent-dispute-1.2702103
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Then on July 15th, the 'bad blood' is LE's 'leading theory' ?



http://globalnews.ca/news/1451758/who-is-calgary-triple-murder-suspect-douglas-garland/

Good catches!

One thing we do not know - did ALJr and DG get along? Maybe they didn't like eachother, maybe DG didn't like the Liknes family period.

I'm extremely curious about the dynamics and relationships, as I know most of us are.