Deceased/Not Found Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 Jun 2014 - #21

[dogmatica]

Does anyone know about DG's physical stature? It would take a pretty strong person to murder 3 people, then drag their bodies to a vehicle, unload them at the farm and...do whatever he did. A huge amount of physical and mental "strength" (for lack of a better word).

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Then this:

"Based on CCTV video, police are looking for a Ford F-150 truck that was seen driving around the area several times in the course of the night. Police want to speak with anyone who was in that vehicle, or who may have more information about it. "
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...lert-violent-crime-happened-at-home-1.2696527

Last one:
"Employing a high-end security system that includes closed-circuit television, one particularly tall home recorded video of the truck circling the neighbourhood a few times during those crucial hours between Jennifer O’Brien dropping off her son Nathan with his grandparents after their weekend estate sale, and her return the next morning."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...lert-violent-crime-happened-at-home-1.2696527

 

[garbagetweet]

Rural people burn their garbage, which normally means non-recyclable paper and burnable products. Food garbage is usually composted, recyclables are stored and recycled, and other garbage is taken to the dump. It is not true that all garbage is burned, although that is the impression given. The bottom line is that if all garbage was burned, the burn barrel would have to be replaced too often.

Has it been determined what the burn pile was used for? Was that just where they emptied the barrel?

I know many folks who live on rural properties around Calgary and northern Alberta. Everyone's situation is slightly different. Those that live close to a dumping station or landfill will collect their garbage and take it in periodically. Some burn their garbage. Some compost food waste but it is pretty rare. Recycling plastics and cardboard/paper seems to be pretty uncommon as well.

Burn piles, from what I have seen, are usually used for larger garbage burns. These are generally used for bigger burns of yard waste, fallen/pruned trees, large amounts of cardboard, etc. Burn barrels are for everyday household garbage.

 

[dogmatica]

It's Alberta. I think they hand out shotguns when you are born.

I was born and raised in Alberta and never, ever owned a gun or had guns around - neither did any of my friends or other family.

 

[Linike]

There are so many ways to move heavier 'items'.
I am not strong to say the least, but I was able to move a 240 lb item easily with aids...ie straps
when there is a plan anything can be done by one person.

 

[Cherchri]

Does anyone know about DG's physical stature? It would take a pretty strong person to murder 3 people, then drag their bodies to a vehicle, unload them at the farm and...do whatever he did. A huge amount of physical and mental "strength" (for lack of a better word).

IMO from up close appears to be approx 5'8" and roughly 160lbs. I was surprised and believe I described him as slight and wiry.

 

[JadeSLeuth]

There are so many ways to move heavier 'items'.
I am not strong to say the least, but I was able to move a 240 lb item easily with aids...ie straps
when there is a plan anything can be done by one person.

Note to self: Get Linike to help me move that darn fridge in the garage.

 

[Cherchri]

Meghan Grant
@CBCMeg Back in #Garland trial for Day 4-- it will start w/ cross examination of Wed. witness, Cst. Derek Alexon (forensic crime scene unit)

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Meghan GrantVerified account ‏@CBCMeg 2m2 minutes ago
Back in #Garland trial for Day 4-- it will start w/ cross examination of Wed. witness, Cst. Derek Alexon (forensic crime scene unit)

Bill GravelandVerified account ‏@BillGraveland 4m4 minutes ago
Alexon was responsible for keeping track of evidence, including bone, teeth and blood gathered at the Liknes home and the #Garland property.

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Judge in, waiting for jury.

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Judge in, waiting for jury.

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 20s20 seconds ago
Lawyers were discussing legal issues. Jury coming in now. #Garland

 

[Cherchri]

Cross examination of Constable Derek Alexon followed by:
Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 60m60 minutes ago
Two lock experts (one civilian and one @CalgaryPolice) are expected to take stand in #Garland trial today. #yyc

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 25s25 seconds ago
Alexon says decision on what to photograph at crimes scenes can be made by himself, or other investigators. #Garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 27s27 seconds ago
Alexon says he enters a scene already armed with knowledge: some from debrief and from preliminary walk through of a scene #Garland #yyc

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 37s37 seconds ago
Alexon is describing procedure for going through crime scene, says "when we attend any scene, we do what's called a walk-through." #Garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 1m1 minute ago
Kim Ross is questioning Alexon. Asks if main job was to photograph. Alexon confirms, says he sometimes packages evidence. #Garland #yyc

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Interesting to learn stuff like this (to me):

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 1m1 minute ago
Cst. Alexon explaining the proceedure FCSU uses to process a scene - walkthrough, then videotape, then photograph the scene #garland

 

[KMouse]

Testimony in the trial is specific - the three victims were killed on the farm near Airdrie. The DNA testimony is still underway with forensic investigator Alexon testifying - I think he will be on the stand for a long while. Likely to have him testify to findings at the farm too? RCMP became involved at that stage so I could be wrong (a jurisdictional issue). Big question mark.

Alexon collected and documented. We should hear from a lab person what tests they did and the results to tie this all together.

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[JadeSLeuth]

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 42s42 seconds ago
Alexon was asked to take photos of footwear found at #Garland Says he didn't personally compare to footprints at Likneses #yyc

Bill GravelandVerified account ‏@BillGraveland 2m2 minutes ago
Alexon says he took photos at the #Garland farm - including footwear. Asked if he took photos to compared to footprints at Liknes home.

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 2m2 minutes ago
Const. Alexon did not photograph footwear of first responders or Jennifer O'Brien but believes his sergeant did. #garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 2m2 minutes ago
Alexon confirms he took photographs at both the Liknes home at #Garland farm #yyc

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 3m3 minutes ago
First responders would not have access to booties and bunny suits used by crime scenes unit investigators, says Alexon. #garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 3m3 minutes ago
Alexon says sometimes ask first responders for info on footwear they were wearing at scene, not sure if this was done at Likneses #Garland

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 3m3 minutes ago
Whereas Alexon and FCSU might have access to booties, gloves and body suites, Alexon says first-responders don't always have access #Garland

 

[casesensitive]

I don't think he was doing autopsies, but rather learning how to dismember a body with the right tools.

We will learn about all the sites he went to on his computer. Hopefully he did not have a fascination with autopsies.

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Pic of mop...
Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 2m2 minutes ago
Ross is asking Alexon about this photo. Did he have the task to send this away for analysis? "Not in this case," said Alexon. #Garland #yyc



How do I embed a pic rather than a link to a pic?

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Cross examination with Alexon is done (already?? I guess I expected more. They can recall him later though, right?)

Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 1m1 minute ago
Ross is done his questioning of Const. Alexon. Crown calls next witness. #Garland #yyc

Meghan GrantVerified account ‏@CBCMeg 1m1 minute ago
Defence is done w/ cross examination. Witness is done. #Garland

Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 1m1 minute ago
Blind in Liknes spare bedroom appeared torn down, or had fallen off, but Alexon agrees he has no idea when that happened. #garland

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 2m2 minutes ago
"You have no idea how long it had been like that?" says Ross about the torn window blind in Liknes home. Cst. Alexon agrees. #Garland

Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 2m2 minutes ago
Cst. Alexon said he also took pictures of fingerprints on the front door of the Liknes home, but again, wasn't involved in analysis #garland

 

[JadeSLeuth]

What is this legal issue today???! Back in roughly an hour.

Ina SidhuVerified account ‏@CTVInaSidhu 2m2 minutes ago
Lawyers need to discuss a legal issue in #Garland trial regarding the next witness. The jury is dismissed for about an hour @CTVCalgary