GUILTY Canada - Amber Kirwan, 19, New Glasgow, NS, 9 Oct 2011 - #1

[Dee10]

I am guessing they wanted an excuse to hold him in custody as well as having access to questioning him, without his ability to walk out. JMO

 

[Dee10]

Matou I posted .01 sec after you. We think a lot alike on cases. :floorlaugh::blowkiss:

 

[Hazel]

The CTV article has been updated

A forensic unit was also on the scene today, scouring the area with metal detectors.

they also added VIDEO: http://atlantic.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20111109/arrest_ng_111109/20111109/?hub=AtlanticHome

 

[Hazel]

The home is roughly three kilometers from where police discovered Kirwan's body on Saturday.

:waitasec: Does anyone know if it could be the property that has something that looks like a school bus parked behind it?

 

[matou]

CF is 29 and murdered someone in 1998? He was 16 at the time? A young offender. That was 13 years ago.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2011/11/09/ns-arrest-heathbell-nova-scotia.html

 

[matou]

I'm gonna place a personal wager that this guy is the guy. JMO

 

[elepher50]

I'm gonna place a personal wager that this guy is the guy. JMO

Do you think he acted alone?

 

[Snoopster]

The CTV article has been updated
they also added VIDEO: http://atlantic.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20111109/arrest_ng_111109/20111109/?hub=AtlanticHome

So where is this home?? On Heathbell Rd, about 3 km away from where Amber was found?

A metal detector? What could that be about? Looking for a shovel? A gun? Another type of weapon, which I shudder to think about?

I suspect, as does Dushi, that this guy is suspected of being involved in Amber's murder, but LE just doesn't have enough to charge him with. The Heathbell connection just seems too coincidental. :waitasec:

ETA: whoops! the home is on Hardwood Rd. (I should read more carefully before I post!) I've checked google maps, but I don't see anything that looks like a mobile home (with the same curve to the driveway) approximately 3 km away from Heathbell Rd. on Hardwood.

 

[elepher50]

Just weighing in on the theory that perhaps she was kept alive for a while... I remember when her body was found the police saying they could identify her by sight.. does this mean she hadn't been there long? She was missing almost a month so you'd think if her body had been there that whole time it would have decayed severely and not been able to be identified just by looking at it? I remember thinking this when they first found her

Hmmm it sure is a horrible thought that they kept her!!! Poor Amber, may she rest in peace now!

Good questions and I have no answers but thought the temperatures may have played a part in preserving the body. Also if she was wrapped in something or covered it may have helped preserve the body enough to do a visual identification.

Here is a chart of the temperatures in the New Glasgow area from the time Amber went missing to when she was found. Not sure if this has any bearing on anything but really needed to do something that may be helpful towards understanding how a visual id could be possible. It is also possible that Amber was kept alive for a period of time as well but that is one horrible thought for me to have in my head.

Here is the chart (both celcius and farenheit):

 

[~n/t~]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2011/11/09/ns-arrest-heathbell-nova-scotia.html

New Glasgow Police have arrested a man in Heathbell, near New Glasgow.

Chris Falconer, 29, was convicted of the second-degree murder of a cab driver who was killed in Heathbell in 1998.

Falconer is now out of prison on parole.

Police stressed to CBC News that the arrest has nothing to do with the Amber Kirwan homicide investigation.

JMO: he may be involved but his arrest may be for something else until the police can find evidence to tie him to the crime.

He's out on parole? WTF?

 

[matou]

He's out on parole? WTF?

He would have been 16 at the time, young offender sentencing I guess.

 

[matou]

Falconer was one of two men convicted of second-degree murder in the killing of cab driver Bob LeBlanc on Heathbell Road in 1998.

Police confirmed to CTV News that Falconer was picked up on Brother Street in New Glasgow, not far from where a car was seized Monday afternoon on Vale Road.

Witnesses say Falconer was walking down the street when he was approached by police and patted down Wednesday afternoon. They say he was then taken away in a police vehicle.

He was picked up separately from a vehicle. I wonder if this vehicle was filmed at Dooley's that night?

http://atlantic.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20111109/arrest_ng_111109/20111109/?hub=AtlanticHome

 

[~n/t~]

He would have been 16 at the time, young offender sentencing I guess.

Is he out now or was on parole but now in prison? The sentence you highlited in your post says he's out on parole now?

 

[elepher50]

Is he out now or was on parole but now in prison? The sentence you highlited in your post says he's out on parole now?

He had been in prison up to April 2010 and then was let out on parole. He was picked up this afternoon in New Glasgow and is now back in prision on a "parole violation". This is what I am understanding.

 

[elepher50]

The home, which sits on a little more than two acres of land, is located about a kilometre from the end of Heathbell Road where Kirwan’s body was discovered this past weekend.

http://www.ngnews.ca/News/Local/201...h-of-home-relates-to-homicide-investigation/1

Rudolph said a number of resources are on the scene, including New Glasgow Police, RCMP, police dogs and the forensic unit.

 

[Wondergirl]

Well, some progress has been made today. That is good. I am sure that LE is holding the ex-teen murderer on other charges, until they sort the horrific mess out.

From what I read in an old article linked here, he murdered that cabbie with a hammer for $65 and some smokes.

I don't even want to think about the possibility of what might have happened to Amber.

As for her being held alive because her remains were identifiable after a month, well, I think it's entirely possible that LE ID'd her simply from her tattoos. I think she was likely killed the night of her abduction.

 

[Wondergirl]

He was picked up separately from a vehicle. I wonder if this vehicle was filmed at Dooley's that night?

http://atlantic.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20111109/arrest_ng_111109/20111109/?hub=AtlanticHome

If a Grey Chev Impala was seen in the area of the deceased, 3 weeks ago when LE was searching, and supposedly recently, and reported to LE, then I am sure LE has gone back to the video from Dooley's, Al's and wherever else, to specifically look for the Impala in the video.

Or they simply ran a scan on all known Impala's in the area, and hit right on CF's, less than 3 KM's away.

I think you are right, Matou, it's entirely possible the Impala is in the video from Oct.9th.

 

[belimom]

A recent update...

Heathbell home sealed off in Kirwan investigation


....they expected to be there through the night and into Thursday.

....Police said they are treating the area like a major crime scene, but would not go as far to say if they believe Kirwan was killed there.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2011/11/09/ns-heathbell-road-home-sealed-off.html

 

[Hazel]

CBC News - Last Updated: Nov 9, 2011 11:19 PM AT

The home sits a couple of hundred metres off the Hardwood Hill Road.

Police have been stopping drivers in the area, checking driver's licences and asking where they are headed.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2011/11/09/ns-heathbell-road-home-sealed-off.html

A mobile home was sealed off in Heathbell, N.S., on Wednesday. (CBC)​

 

[Hazel]

This article describes the location of the property

HARDWOOD HILL – A mobile home located five kilometres up the Hardwood Hill Road from Lyons Brook continues to be the focus of a police search in relation to the death of 19-year-old Amber Kirwan.

The home, which sits on a little more than two acres of land, is located about a kilometer from the end of Heathbell Road where Kirwan’s body was discovered this past weekend.

Forensic officers were scouring the home’s outside property Wednesday afternoon before pulling five vehicles and the command unit into the home’s driveway. A travel trailer is located next to the home in the same lot.

“This is a homicide, and in order to protect the case, we do not discuss details publicly,” he said. “We do understand there is a high level of interest and we asking for the public’s support and patience as everything unfolds.”

http://www.ngnews.ca/News/Local/2011-11-09/article-2800817/Police-search-of-home-relates-to-homicide-investigation/1