CANADA Canada - Audrey Gleave, 73, Ancaster ON, 30 Dec 2010 #6

[dotr]

Hoping everyone sticks around to keep the quest for Audrey's killer alive!
The trouble is there are so many contenders for that wicked role, yet only "auditioned" a few.Cast a wider net?

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

I wish LV and some of the other players in the Audrey story would post here.

And I also am hoping for justice for Audrey. Soon.

:twocents:

 

[Jade]

PK has stated that he is fine not knowing who killed A.

I would think that PK would express a desire to have the killer found if nothing else to clear his name.

I have participated on the thread to honor AG & help keep it moving.

I now really regret the time I have put into reading up on it so I could participate.

PK will be thrilled to know you all are defending him and with him a POI that has posted and given interviews with conflicting statements it is not a surprise he would be attempting to suppress some of those statements.

He is not my friend and since others much closer in location consider him a friend and above suspicion I do think it is better that I concede from sleuthing AGs case.

Sorry I have bored and offended some but I was operating in parameters for discussion of WS TOS of talking about a POI named in MSM.

It goes without saying that LE knows more than us in naming PK a POI.

But by all means make this a thread about protecting a LE named POI who cares not who killed AG instead of AG.



All IMO

 

[Sillybilly]

Sorry I have bored and offended some but I was operating in parameters for discussion of WS TOS of talking about a POI named in MSM.

That is correct Jade .. PK is a POI by his own admission. If the Mods had/have a problem with the discussion, we would have known about it by now. Also, if anyone is offended by posts, they know where the flag button is in order to relay their concerns to a Mod.

For those who are choosing to leave for whatever reason, there is specific mention in either TOS or Etiquette wrt not making long goodbyes, that if folks don't like a particular thread, there are many other threads they may participate in.

 

[2soccermom]

SB --
your post raises an interesting point; to my knowledge, PK has never been named a POI in MSM; in fact, I think the only direct reference we have from LE/MSM in relation to his "interest" in the case is that LE cleared him early. (The Spec article references PK as a possible POI only by referencing PK's own info, not LE's.) That this may have changed has not been specific in the public record; we know that LE has revisited early interviewees, but reference to his status as a POI is only "insider" info -- from PK (as we asume the poster here to be) himself.

I think the issue for some folks (tho' I don't want to presume to speak for others, but as I assess from my memory of posts in the now-pulled threads, including my own) is not the sleuthing, but how sometimes info gets writ as truth when it is speculation, and then a whole bunch of folks have to weigh in to make corrections. And sometimes we miss what to correct. I don't exempt myself from this problem. Someone may be able to pull an article from MSM that has an LE quote identifying PK as a POI -- I haven't bothered to check back. That's sort of my point: we think we remember things, don't always re-check, and forget to add "MOO." I think that's where things get sticky.

Ummmmm ... errrrrrr .... MOO.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

From soccermom:

<<< PK has never been named a POI in MSM; in fact, I think the only direct reference we have from LE/MSM in relation to his "interest" in the case is that LE cleared him early. (The Spec article references PK as a possible POI only by referencing PK's own info, not LE's.) That this may have changed has not been specific in the public record; we know that LE has revisited early interviewees, but reference to his status as a POI is only "insider" info -- from PK (as we asume the poster here to be) himself. >>>



I thought PK HIMSELF told us that he's a POI and that he "had discrepancies in the polygraph". I thought he was asked to take a second polygraph in August (I could be wrong about that). Heck.....I could be wrong about the entire thing!!:waitasec:

:twocents:

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

That is correct Jade .. PK is a POI by his own admission. If the Mods had/have a problem with the discussion, we would have known about it by now. Also, if anyone is offended by posts, they know where the flag button is in order to relay their concerns to a Mod.

For those who are choosing to leave for whatever reason, there is specific mention in either TOS or Etiquette wrt not making long goodbyes, that if folks don't like a particular thread, there are many other threads they may participate in.

1. Yes, he's a POI by his own admission. (Thanks for helping my memory!)

2. The long good-byes are against the TOS. They distract from the topic at hand.

:twocents:

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

From Jade:

<<< But by all means make this a thread about protecting a LE named POI who cares not who killed AG instead of AG. >>>



Sadly, I've had those feelings and frustrations as well. The case will shake down as it should do. I'm trying to keep the faith, remain posting here in spite of what you've expressed here.

We don't KNOW who murdered Audrey Gleave. I'm trying to keep the faith that her killer, (whomever that turns out to be) will be caught in due time.

:twocents:

 

[Sillybilly]

Rummaging back on some details, and am wondering about Audrey's insistence on the use of Baryon and her email sig Bary. The "hell or high water" email to PK was from baryon @ golden.net, and signed Bary.

If she seldom corresponded with LF, did she send that Amazing Grace email under the name Baryon or Audrey? Would LF have known that baryon @ golden.net was Audrey? IOW, what was the email/sig that she normally used to correspond with LF once or twice a year? Did Audrey have a separate email account in her own real name that she used when corresponding with folks on an infrequent basis? Did she tell her more casual/infrequent email contacts never to refer to her by her real name?

Not sure where i'm going on this, but for some reason her last couple of emails are rattling around in my brain.

 

[Sillybilly]

From soccermom:

<<< PK has never been named a POI in MSM; in fact, I think the only direct reference we have from LE/MSM in relation to his "interest" in the case is that LE cleared him early. (The Spec article references PK as a possible POI only by referencing PK's own info, not LE's.) That this may have changed has not been specific in the public record; we know that LE has revisited early interviewees, but reference to his status as a POI is only "insider" info -- from PK (as we asume the poster here to be) himself. >>>



I thought PK HIMSELF told us that he's a POI and that he "had discrepancies in the polygraph". I thought he was asked to take a second polygraph in August (I could be wrong about that). Heck.....I could be wrong about the entire thing!!:waitasec:

:twocents:

LOL, I've heard of false confessions, but have never heard of a material witness in a case falsely identifying themselves as a POI. IMO, that would certainly be a sign of a person wanting to insert themselves into an investigation. PK's words were:

officially I've been told that I am a person of interest again

So either it is official or he's lying. If it's official, then LE has their reasons for not making that information public. If he's lying, then we can discount anything said by him at any time.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

LOL, I've heard of false confessions, but have never heard of a material witness in a case falsely identifying themselves as a POI. IMO, that would certainly be a sign of a person wanting to insert themselves into an investigation. PK's words were:



So either it is official or he's lying. If it's official, then LE has their reasons for not making that information public. If he's lying, then we can discount anything said by him at any time.

Thanks for finding the quote......officially!!

Lying or being truthful, that is the question. Officially! :rocker:

 

[flipflop]

This creep has been released from Jail on March 6....even the LE are warning the area about him, something that they do not do in Canada. See pic at the link

http://ptbocanada.com/journal/2013/...-public-safety-warning-in-regards-to-ste.html

This next link made me think of AG. This story is by the victim who was attacked and raped by the creep above. Then the story explains that he escaped from jail and broke into 5 different places while driving a stolen hydro one truck. Does not give the dates of when he escaped, before being caught.

http://www.cottagecountrynow.ca/new...ctim-shares-story-of-hunters-bay-trail-attack

 

[dotr]

This creep has been released from Jail on March 6....even the LE are warning the area about him, something that they do not do in Canada. See pic at the link

http://ptbocanada.com/journal/2013/...-public-safety-warning-in-regards-to-ste.html

This next link made me think of AG. This story is by the victim who was attacked and raped by the creep above. Then the story explains that he escaped from jail and broke into 5 different places while driving a stolen hydro one truck. Does not give the dates of when he escaped, before being caught.

http://www.cottagecountrynow.ca/new...ctim-shares-story-of-hunters-bay-trail-attack

Thanks so much for posting this horrific story of a monster and his attack on that poor woman walking her dog....(second link) to think that this woman has been through he.. and still going through it,yet the perp. (who refused counselling) walks free and not is not on parole!

 

[dotr]

At least there are a few restrictions for the newly released violent rapist, one of them struck me as funny- but should not have...
http://www.thepeterboroughexaminer....ly-released-rapist-now-living-in-peterborough


"He&#8217;s also not allowed to associate with known criminals, with the exception of immediate family members"

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

And this one struck me a just plain odd:

" Abstain from the purchase, possession or consumption of prescription drugs except in accordance with a medical prescription in his name."


LE must have reason to think that his horrific behaviours were/are augmented by the use of prescription drugs, obviously obtained illegally.

And TODAY is International Women's Day!

Sending much happiness to all women and the women in our own lives.

:twocents:

 

[Sillybilly]

At least there are a few restrictions for the newly released violent rapist, one of them struck me as funny- but should not have...
http://www.thepeterboroughexaminer....ly-released-rapist-now-living-in-peterborough


"He’s also not allowed to associate with known criminals, with the exception of immediate family members"

Yes, interesting wording. As a former Muskokan, the family name is known to me.

Jane, whomever you are, stay strong. I wish you well in your continuing recovery.

 

[dotr]

This poi ( with the backpack) was just arrested for all sorts of nasty and aggressive behavior..
http://www.globaltoronto.com/man+arrested+for+string+of+subway+sex+offences/6442824235/story.html
"TORONTO &#8211; A 32-year-old man has been arrested for multiple sex offences committed on the TTC since January.

Diego Anesetti is charged with sexual assault, indecent acts, exposure to persons under 16 years old, criminal harassment and mischief/interference with property"

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Kind of OT:

What ever happened to the killer of a woman who was walking home in the rain in/near Cabbagetown?

And, yesterday there was a daytime (3.00 pm) sexual assault near Cabbagetown.

Something tells me it's the same guy.

:twocents:

 

[dotr]

Kind of OT:

What ever happened to the killer of a woman who was walking home in the rain in/near Cabbagetown?

And, yesterday there was a daytime (3.00 pm) sexual assault near Cabbagetown.

Something tells me it's the same guy.

:twocents:

Thanks, missed that one - will post in that thread!
http://www.newstalk1010.com/News/localnews/blogentry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10513332

 

[dotr]

Kind of OT:

What ever happened to the killer of a woman who was walking home in the rain in/near Cabbagetown?

And, yesterday there was a daytime (3.00 pm) sexual assault near Cabbagetown.

Something tells me it's the same guy.

:twocents:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9010225&posted=1#post9010225