CANADA Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #17

[Lexiintoronto]

Also there was a significant dispute with a former employee who allegedly stole info from Apotex and was allegedly setting up competing production facilities in Pakistan. MOO

I remember him being discussed and the question was why would he harm Honey, especially if Barry was going to be alone in the home for about a week. But, IF Mary is correct, he may have had a motive.

 

[dotr]

Would Honey's planned dream house have been such a pompous building on to a plot, much too small?

Wonder if the Shermans would have had high fences at the F. Hill property erected, did anyone else really, really want the very desirable property that HS managed to secure? speculation, imo.
Bronfman fence not coming down soon | The Star
Aug. 5, 2010 rbibm
''P B has received final notice from the city to tear down illegally erected fences around his Forest Hill mansion, but the movie mogul will likely get a chance to plead his case with the next crop of councillors.''

''The Forest Hill fence fight has exposed infighting and intrigue in the enclave near Bathurst St. and St. Clair Ave. W. that is home to some of Toronto’s wealthiest residents.''

''On Nov. 8, 2008, burglars breached a security system, scaled a brick wall and removed a 100-kilogram safe from a second-floor window of the home shared by B, his wife J N and their three children.''
''One neighbouring financer called the fencing a “monstrosity” that makes his backyard feel like a prison.''
rbbm.
Bronfmans seek end to Forest Hill fence furor | Sherwood Park News
''Nobody is aware of how they got in and out of my already-gated property,” Mrs. B said, but aspects of the robbery that were not revealed to the public made family members fear for their safety. “We just put [the fences] up. We didn’t think about anything but our safety and security.”

 

[Window21]

So the family is considering selling Apotex again? I know they sold off some in 2018, but according to this they are considering it again? Maybe this was mentioned earlier. My apologies if I missed it.
Nov 9 2021
Generic drugmaker Apotex reportedly reviving sale talks - BNN Bloomberg

 

[MistyWaters]

So the family is considering selling Apotex again? I know they sold off some in 2018, but according to this they are considering it again? Maybe this was mentioned earlier. My apologies if I missed it.
Nov 9 2021
Generic drugmaker Apotex reportedly reviving sale talks - BNN Bloomberg

I can’t really blame them because the future success of Apotex is totally dependent on this who they hire as none of the children were involved in Apotex to any great degree in the past. The failure rate of 2nd generation companies is an astronomical 70%.

Ten reasons why family businesses fail

 

[ldlager]

I can’t really blame them because the future success of Apotex is totally dependent on this who they hire as none of the children were involved in Apotex to any great degree in the past. The failure rate of 2nd generation companies is an astronomical 70%.

Ten reasons why family businesses fail

And that 70% includes companies where children actually work in the business!

 

[Bobbi Pearl]

Okay if the front door was locked, why was it reported the individual entered the house. According to the Star, on Dec. 14, 2017, the man ............. appeared to enter the house through the front door, then came back outside. He did this three times, for a total of 29 minutes inside the Sherman home, before driving off.

Either he had a key or the door was not locked. Either way I do not believe he was a Police Officer.

I agree not a cop. He could have gone around the house out of view and peaked in windows, tried doors, got in somewhere else. Or locked the door on his way out?

Further to my post above, if this was an orchestrated coup, with Barry out of the way they could get rid of Desai and Kay.

Do we know if AP is now part of the fold, that was what JS wanted was it not?

 

[dotr]

Barry Sherman’s son raised concerns about Apotex founder’s investment strategy and business competence: Sources | The Star
By Kevin DonovanChief Investigative Reporter
June 27, 2019
''You were also my business partner,” Jonathon told 7,000 mourners at the memorial service. “When I entered your office about five or six years ago with my good friend Adam we told you about our plan to start a business together and you were so incredibly supportive and excited. We had the world’s shortest shareholder agreement which basically said, anything, anytime.”

The “Adam” Jonathon referred to is Adam Paulin, a graduate of the Richard Ivey School of Business. The two have been friends since meeting one summer at Camp Winnebagoe. Together, they set up Green Storage in 2014. It is a company that provides self storage lockers in a growing number of sites in the GTA and surrounding towns.

Paulin has not responded to the Star’s request for an interview.''

''By the spring of 2015, according to provincial land title documents, Green Storage had a total of $71 million in loans registered against its properties from a company called Hour Holdings, which used Apotex as its mailing address. The directors of Hour Holdings and the related Hour Investments are Jonathon Sherman and Adam Paulin. Green Storage directors are Sherman and Paulin as well.
Sherman insiders with knowledge of these financial matters say that Hour Holdings was funded by Barry Sherman.
At the same time as the mortgages were registered against Green Storage, it made purchases of existing self storage businesses in Ajax, Newmarket, Aurora and Bolton. According to land title documents, the storage businesses they purchased cost, in total, $22 million. The Star could not determine the extent and cost of the renovations as Green Storage is a private company with no requirement to release information to the public.

The smallest loan to Green Storage from Hour Holdings was in August, 2014, to purchase a small boat storage facility in Apsley, Ontario, north of Peterborough and near a marina and cottage property Jonathon purchased the year before through a holding company he and business partner Paulin own. Land title records show a loan of $500,000 from the Sherman-related company and a purchase of $234,500 for the storage site in Apsley.''

The year 2015 was a difficult financial stretch for Barry Sherman. He confided to close friends and executives at the privately held Apotex that “cash was tight.”

 

[SUSAN ANN]

Barry Sherman’s son raised concerns about Apotex founder’s investment strategy and business competence: Sources | The Star
By Kevin DonovanChief Investigative Reporter
June 27, 2019
''You were also my business partner,” Jonathon told 7,000 mourners at the memorial service. “When I entered your office about five or six years ago with my good friend Adam we told you about our plan to start a business together and you were so incredibly supportive and excited. We had the world’s shortest shareholder agreement which basically said, anything, anytime.”

The “Adam” Jonathon referred to is Adam Paulin, a graduate of the Richard Ivey School of Business. The two have been friends since meeting one summer at Camp Winnebagoe. Together, they set up Green Storage in 2014. It is a company that provides self storage lockers in a growing number of sites in the GTA and surrounding towns.

Paulin has not responded to the Star’s request for an interview.''

''By the spring of 2015, according to provincial land title documents, Green Storage had a total of $71 million in loans registered against its properties from a company called Hour Holdings, which used Apotex as its mailing address. The directors of Hour Holdings and the related Hour Investments are Jonathon Sherman and Adam Paulin. Green Storage directors are Sherman and Paulin as well.
Sherman insiders with knowledge of these financial matters say that Hour Holdings was funded by Barry Sherman.
At the same time as the mortgages were registered against Green Storage, it made purchases of existing self storage businesses in Ajax, Newmarket, Aurora and Bolton. According to land title documents, the storage businesses they purchased cost, in total, $22 million. The Star could not determine the extent and cost of the renovations as Green Storage is a private company with no requirement to release information to the public.

The smallest loan to Green Storage from Hour Holdings was in August, 2014, to purchase a small boat storage facility in Apsley, Ontario, north of Peterborough and near a marina and cottage property Jonathon purchased the year before through a holding company he and business partner Paulin own. Land title records show a loan of $500,000 from the Sherman-related company and a purchase of $234,500 for the storage site in Apsley.''

The year 2015 was a difficult financial stretch for Barry Sherman. He confided to close friends and executives at the privately held Apotex that “cash was tight.”

If it turns out JS is guilty I wonder if he would admit it. Is it true the daughter has broken up with her husband? I don’t want to read anything into that but, just wondering.
How does a person go about hiring a hitman? A long time ago I heard that on craigslist depending on how an ad is worded it could actually be a hitman for hire. How does a normal person even know who to contact to find someone that is willing to kill?
And can bitcoin payment be tracked through any documents? I know nothing about crypto stuff but I was wondering if that could be tracked like other financial statements are tracked?

 

[deugirtni]

.... Do we know if AP is now part of the fold, that was what JS wanted was it not?

I was wondering same - whether JS is able to lug his business partner to the Apo/Sherfam meetings with him now.

On Oct. 27, 2017, Barry wrote: “I don’t want to meet with you and Adam,” adding, “you are my son.” Jonathon responded that he wanted to bring Paulin to the meeting, noting that Barry’s second-in-command at Apotex, Jack Kay, would be present. In his email, Jonathon referred to himself as the “heir apparent” to the Sherman fortune. Barry replied that yes, “you are my son and heir to the empire” but he complained of Jonathon’s “unwillingness and apparent disinterest” over the years in the Apotex business. Barry added that Jonathon’s “hostility persists,” but there is no explanation in the email as to what the Apotex founder was referring to. Jonathon wrote that if they have the meeting, “it will be with Adam present.” The meeting never took place.
Many lined up at the ‘Bank of Barry’ Sherman: Inside the $10 billion succession battle

 

[Bobbi Pearl]

I was wondering same - whether JS is able to lug his business partner to the Apo/Sherfam meetings with him now.

On Oct. 27, 2017, Barry wrote: “I don’t want to meet with you and Adam,” adding, “you are my son.” Jonathon responded that he wanted to bring Paulin to the meeting, noting that Barry’s second-in-command at Apotex, Jack Kay, would be present. In his email, Jonathon referred to himself as the “heir apparent” to the Sherman fortune. Barry replied that yes, “you are my son and heir to the empire” but he complained of Jonathon’s “unwillingness and apparent disinterest” over the years in the Apotex business. Barry added that Jonathon’s “hostility persists,” but there is no explanation in the email as to what the Apotex founder was referring to. Jonathon wrote that if they have the meeting, “it will be with Adam present.” The meeting never took place.
Many lined up at the ‘Bank of Barry’ Sherman: Inside the $10 billion succession battle

gives me such a sense of power struggle

 

[deugirtni]

gives me such a sense of power struggle

Agreed. And gives me such a sense of someone's sense of entitlement, as well.

 

[ldlager]

If it turns out JS is guilty I wonder if he would admit it. Is it true the daughter has broken up with her husband? I don’t want to read anything into that but, just wondering.
How does a person go about hiring a hitman? A long time ago I heard that on craigslist depending on how an ad is worded it could actually be a hitman for hire. How does a normal person even know who to contact to find someone that is willing to kill?
And can bitcoin payment be tracked through any documents? I know nothing about crypto stuff but I was wondering if that could be tracked like other financial statements are tracked?

I don't know how you successfully hire one, but I read the other day about a woman in the USA that tried to hire a hitman to kill her husband. She went on a website called rentahitman.com and arranged to meet and pay the prospective murderer. Turns out the website was set up by a guy who referred all inquiries to LE, and she was arrested and convicted. You can't make this stuff up.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/11/22/rent-a-hitman-website/

 

[ldlager]

I agree not a cop. He could have gone around the house out of view and peaked in windows, tried doors, got in somewhere else. Or locked the door on his way out?

Do we know if AP is now part of the fold, that was what JS wanted was it not?

AP, who potentially stood to materially benefit financially from the deaths of BS and HS has not been interviewed or made and statements AFAIK. I don't know if he has been interviewed by LE. He is also listed as a Partner in Harlo Financial

 

[WINDSOR]

AP, who potentially stood to materially benefit financially from the deaths of BS and HS has not been interviewed or made and statements AFAIK. I don't know if he has been interviewed by LE. He is also listed as a Partner in Harlo Financial

The only way AP would or could benefit from the Sherman's deaths, would be through the windfall his business partner JS would receive.
If JS had lots of money and invested it in his and AP's company, AP is pretty well assured the financial viability of their joint enterprise. However AP has to be very confident that in the future, JS would not say " AP I do not need you, I got lots of my own money, Goodbye".

Potentially, AP could be an accessory rather than an initiator. IMO

 

[ldlager]

The only way AP would or could benefit from the Sherman's deaths, would be through the windfall his business partner JS would receive.
If JS had lots of money and invested it in his and AP's company, AP is pretty well assured the financial viability of their joint enterprise. However AP has to be very confident that in the future, JS would not say " AP I do not need you, I got lots of my own money, Goodbye".

Potentially, AP could be an accessory rather than an initiator. IMO

Agreed

 

[Bobbi Pearl]

The only way AP would or could benefit from the Sherman's deaths, would be through the windfall his business partner JS would receive.
If JS had lots of money and invested it in his and AP's company, AP is pretty well assured the financial viability of their joint enterprise. However AP has to be very confident that in the future, JS would not say " AP I do not need you, I got lots of my own money, Goodbye".

Potentially, AP could be an accessory rather than an initiator. IMO

I also got impressions that AP and JS have a special bond of some type, JS was adamant to his father that they were a package and AP will be involved in JS business in the future.

Now it seems that the interference in filling the Hour Holdings coffers no longer exists. Wonder what the address will be for this business now, before the murders Hour Holdings' address was at the Apotex offices, if they do sell off the business then where will the HQ be the marina or storage company?

 

[Lexiintoronto]

AP, who potentially stood to materially benefit financially from the deaths of BS and HS has not been interviewed or made and statements AFAIK. I don't know if he has been interviewed by LE. He is also listed as a Partner in Harlo Financial

I don’t think Barry knew anything about Harlo Financial or Harlo Capital, both formed as Barry was asking them to secure traditional bank mortgages and repay him money.

They were essentially loaning out Barry’s money at the same Barry was looking for cash for the lawsuit losses.

My view only.

 

[MistyWaters]

I don’t think Barry knew anything about Harlo Financial or Harlo Capital, both formed as Barry was asking them to secure traditional bank mortgages and repay him money.

They were essentially loaning out Barry’s money at the same Barry was looking for cash for the lawsuit losses.

My view only.

Sorry but I must ask, what or who is the connection to Harlow and JS?

About Harlo Capital – Harlo Capital

 

[Window21]

Sorry but I must ask, what or who is the connection to Harlow and JS?

Posted from above by Dotr:

''By the spring of 2015, according to provincial land title documents, Green Storage had a total of $71 million in loans registered against its properties from a company called Hour Holdings, which used Apotex as its mailing address. The directors of Hour Holdings and the related Hour Investments are Jonathon Sherman and Adam Paulin. Green Storage directors are Sherman and Paulin as well.
Sherman insiders with knowledge of these financial matters say that Hour Holdings was funded by Barry Sherman."

Edit: But I have no idea about Harlo Financial or Harlo Capital...maybe a typo?

 

[ldlager]

Posted from above by Dotr:

''By the spring of 2015, according to provincial land title documents, Green Storage had a total of $71 million in loans registered against its properties from a company called Hour Holdings, which used Apotex as its mailing address. The directors of Hour Holdings and the related Hour Investments are Jonathon Sherman and Adam Paulin. Green Storage directors are Sherman and Paulin as well.
Sherman insiders with knowledge of these financial matters say that Hour Holdings was funded by Barry Sherman."

Edit: But I have no idea about Harlo Financial or Harlo Capital...maybe a typo?

Harlo Capital is a private equity firm in Toronto. AP is a Director of and a Partner in that firm.
Bobbi Pearl asked (in effect) what AP was doing now, and was he part of Apotex. I answered that he is shown as a Partner in Harlo, and also he is with Green Storage. I don't know if JS has involvement in Harlo.