CANADA Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #19

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  • #781
There is a photo here somewhere which shows a police officer bagging the earring.

This isn’t thé article with the photo of the policeman bagging the earring, but close enough

 
  • #782
The earring was found on the road or by the road, I believe.

Thanks for posting.

Why was there a television crew there at the Sherman home when the private detective team took over the property, I wonder? And JUST so happens they find an item(s?) similar (identical(?)) to one known (via publicly posted photos) to have been worn by one of the murder victims, AND they catch it on film? Wow. Amazing.

From the linked article:

During their initial search, private detectives were also directed by a television crew to a spot where the crew had seen an earring lodged in the gutter at the end of the driveway. The private team put that in an evidence bag too.

This was all back in January
 
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  • #784
Thanks for posting.

Why was there a television crew there at the Sherman home when the private detective team took over the property, I wonder? And JUST so happens they find an item(s?) similar (identical(?)) to one known (via publicly posted photos) to have been worn by one of the murder victims, AND they catch it on film? Wow. Amazing.

From the linked article:

During their initial search, private detectives were also directed by a television crew to a spot where the crew had seen an earring lodged in the gutter at the end of the driveway. The private team put that in an evidence bag too.

This was all back in January

Yes. Fishy. IMO.

~E
 
  • #785
There is a photo here somewhere which shows a police officer bagging the earring.

This isn’t thé article with the photo of the policeman bagging the earring, but close enough

That isn't a policeman, but is what the policemen *missed*, and was instead, found immediately after Toronto police had already spent six weeks examining that house and property, seemingly with a fine-toothed comb. It is interesting that those photos seem to have less-than-mainstream watermarks all over them now... perhaps MSM knows something we can only guess on, about those photos? Do an image search for 'Honey Sherman's earring found in gutter'..
 
  • #786
Yes. Fishy. IMO.

~E
re-enactment approx @3:35

Maybe not fishy, in earlier threads wondered if possibly someone on the film shoot might have dropped replica's of HS's earrings, just speculation.
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'As it has been for the past 40 days, a Toronto Police car on Wednesday was out front of the York Mills mansion of billionaire couple Honey and Barry Sherman, who were found dead inside Dec. 15. Two police forensic vans were also parked inside the yellow tape.'
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''Not only did he look like the Apotex founder but he was trying to emulate him — even wearing a wig.

“I am doing a movie,” explained the driver.

If it already didn’t seem bizarre, behind him in a gold-coloured Lexus RX SUV was a woman playing the part of Honey Sherman.

For a few hours, it had the look that the Shermans were alive and back on Old Colony Rd.''
 
  • #787
Maybe not fishy, in earlier threads wondered if possibly someone on the film shoot might have dropped replica's of HS's earrings, just speculation. ....
Now this film shoot seems totally fishy to me. Why did no other media cover this filmshoot?

ETA: Also, what a coincidence that one of the photos in that filmshoot article just HAPPENS to show Honey wearing that very earring that is found..... wasn't it the very next day after publishing that article, once Gomes had announced the double homicide conclusion? Funny how things come together!
 
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  • #788
In a Green Storage Locker maybe?
I have always wondered that. Lots of organized crime etc is through a storage business, plus even if it is a legitimate storage business lots of people use storage lockers to store criminal things. Example: guns, drugs and even dead bodies. You read about it all the time in true crime cases.

I wonder if the police have ever searched any of his storage businesses? It's a great way to funnel money and a great place to hide things. JMO
 
  • #789
I respect that you have your view of what happened that night and that you in part are basing it your personal experience with both victims.

I’m not sure how you’re able to explain away the use of ligatures that were not found at the scene or that the police have a suspect captured on cctv walking to the Sherman home at the time both are believed to have been murdered, spending time there and then leaving the scene.

The investigation is ongoing and the police have said there are persons of interest and one suspect so far. They have enough evidence or probable cause to satisfy a judge who continues to grant warrants or work orders. A crown attorney is involved along with one detective assigned full-time to the case who works in tandem with the homicide team.

I’m also not sure if you want any of us to explain how or why we can suspect that you may be involved, but I personally have a response if that’s a genuine question. It encompasses more than you and the night of the murders, but it starts with the details you have shared and expands on them.

ETA: I personally suspect two or more other people, you just mentioned yourself and how we may have viewed you as a suspect.
Not just my relationship with Barry+Honey. More to do with my phone call with Greenspin, meeting with Tommy Boy Klatt, 4 hr Q+A with Price and a discussion my friend had with a retired TPS homicide detective a few days after the body’s were found.
I won’t share again. The lawyer Greenspin got paid to “spin” a narrative and you’ve all bought it.
 
  • #790
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Toronto Police Det. Martin Woodhouse seizes two earrings at the end of the Sherman driveway on Jan. 27, 2018. PHOTO BY ROSS MCLEAN
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Here’s the post with a POLICE OFFICER bagging the earring. Thanks to dotr’s post

“It looked like pieces from a women’s earring,” said Reid, who is a 20-year camera guy with eyes of an eagle.

Toronto Police Det. Martin Woodhouse seizes two earrings at the end of the Sherman driveway on Jan. 27, 2018.
Toronto Police Det. Martin Woodhouse seizes two earrings at the end of the Sherman driveway on Jan. 27, 2018. PHOTO BY ROSS MCLEAN


Same police officer is seen here again


 
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  • #791
It really could be anybody... like MS's son, who seems to be suing his parents so he can examine the family trust(??).. or perhaps one of the surrogates??? Or... perhaps B's sister?? Anyone else??
MS’s husband, possibly. But KD has written or said almost nothing about him.
 
  • #792
Not just my relationship with Barry+Honey. More to do with my phone call with Greenspin, meeting with Tommy Boy Klatt, 4 hr Q+A with Price and a discussion my friend had with a retired TPS homicide detective a few days after the body’s were found.
I won’t share again. The lawyer Greenspin got paid to “spin” a narrative and you’ve all bought it.
Yup. . Sure.
 
  • #793
Here’s the post with a POLICE OFFICER bagging the earring. Thanks to dotr’s post

“It looked like pieces from a women’s earring,” said Reid, who is a 20-year camera guy with eyes of an eagle.

Toronto Police Det. Martin Woodhouse seizes two earrings at the end of the Sherman driveway on Jan. 27, 2018.
Toronto Police Det. Martin Woodhouse seizes two earrings at the end of the Sherman driveway on Jan. 27, 2018. PHOTO BY ROSS MCLEAN


Same police officer is seen here again


I'm not really sure what point in particular you are arguing... but if it is that Martin Woodhouse is a police detective, as opposed to a member of the now defunct privately-hired Sherman private detective team who found what was touted to potentially be Honey's earring, sometimes we have to look further for information and verification than a description under a photograph published in the Toronto Sun. imo.
 
  • #794
Here’s the post with a POLICE OFFICER bagging the earring. Thanks to dotr’s post

“It looked like pieces from a women’s earring,” said Reid, who is a 20-year camera guy with eyes of an eagle.

Toronto Police Det. Martin Woodhouse seizes two earrings at the end of the Sherman driveway on Jan. 27, 2018.
Toronto Police Det. Martin Woodhouse seizes two earrings at the end of the Sherman driveway on Jan. 27, 2018. PHOTO BY ROSS MCLEAN


Same police officer is seen here again


January 27th, 2018. Imagine!!
 
  • #795
I doubt this will ever be solved. Too much money, too much that is unknown, too much litigation, too big to solve. I love TPS and trust them. But this has too many tentacles even for them. JMO
If they had $35 million, they could do some more work on the case.
 
  • #796
That isn't a policeman, but is what the policemen *missed*, and was instead, found immediately after Toronto police had already spent six weeks examining that house and property, seemingly with a fine-toothed comb. It is interesting that those photos seem to have less-than-mainstream watermarks all over them now... perhaps MSM knows something we can only guess on, about those photos? Do an image search for 'Honey Sherman's earring found in gutter'..
This is what I'm pointing out. He IS a police officer. I love LE and to say he 1. isn't a police officer is wrong and 2. to say LE missed something is also wrong. JMHO
 
  • #797
If they had $35 million, they could do some more work on the case.
True, but the family has more money than anyone could imagine, there is no reason they can't spend millions in hiring the best PI's or detectives that money can buy and figure out things, but I don't hear them doing that. I wonder why.....I have my own personal ideas, I am sure all of us here do.

Edit: I want to add that they could also pay out of their pocket to add 4 or even 10 police officers to their case (and pay the cops their wages for a very long time ) to help speed up the process of finding the murderer...hmmm, but they haven't
 
  • #798
I'm not really sure what point in particular you are arguing... but if it is that Martin Woodhouse is a police detective, as opposed to a member of the now defunct privately-hired Sherman private detective team who found what was touted to potentially be Honey's earring, sometimes we have to look further for information and verification than a description under a photograph published in the Toronto Sun. imo.
Please enlighten us all. What have I missed here and what are you saying? Martin Woodhouse was a police officer with TPS. What are you saying? I confuse easily.
 
  • #799
Please enlighten us all. What have I missed here and what are you saying? Martin Woodhouse was a police officer with TPS. What are you saying? I confuse easily.
Martin Woodhouse is a FORMER police officer. He works for Klatt Investigators who was hired by the Sherman family iirc...also, iirc Martin Woodhouse has had his issues with the police department while he was a cop and was involved in a messy lawsuit over killing a man while on duty. Just google him.
 
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  • #800
Martin Woodhouse is a FORMER police officer. He works for Klatt Investigators who was hired by the Sherman family iirc...
Thank you. I readily admit my mistake.
 
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