CANADA Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #19

[Lonicera]

Maybe, I can't follow the thought. Who could be Judas: BS or HS? Or MS (although alive)?

We can say that Judas is a symbolic figure, in my speculation he can represent the two Sherman spouses. Anyway, that was the killer’s goal: to eliminate them both.

 

[ldlager]

Maybe, I can't follow the thought. Who could be Judas: BS or HS? Or MS (although alive)?

I think he/she meant Mary M from the Bible, not MS from Forest Hill/Toronto

 

[Lonicera]

I think he/she meant Mary M from the Bible, not MS from Forest Hill/Toronto

My apologies, I was talking about Mary Shechtman , Honey's sister. 19 déc. 2021Mary Shechtman, Honey's sister and aunt to the four Sherman children, told police she "believes that there may be a religious motive," Grudges and gossip: A rocky start in the search for Barry and Honey Sherman killers

 

[FromGermany1]

No, I have not.

I had to look up my Kindle (memory fail): Infortunately I have not. But why do I remember to have read a lot of HS' journeys with her girlfriends and more .....??

 

[FromGermany1]

I had to look up my Kindle (memory fail): Infortunately I have not. But why do I remember to have read a lot of HS' journeys with her girlfriends and more .....??

Unfortunately

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

My apologies, I was talking about Mary Shechtman , Honey's sister. 19 déc. 2021Mary Shechtman, Honey's sister and aunt to the four Sherman children, told police she "believes that there may be a religious motive," Grudges and gossip: A rocky start in the search for Barry and Honey Sherman killers

Ohhhhh, so there MIGHT have been a religious motive? Thanks so much for that quote from MS.

I've been wondering how a practising religion person like H could be at ease with a confirmed atheist like B claimed he was.

Here it is again about "religious statement"

Relative believes 'someone was making a statement' in murder of Barry and Honey Sherman, unsealed documents show

A cache of unsealed documents related to the murder of Barry and Honey Sherman is revealing new details about the investigation into the deaths of the Toronto billionaire couple, including an interview with one relative who believes 'someone was making a statement' in their killings.

toronto.ctvnews.ca

 

[dotr]

Ohhhhh, so there MIGHT have been a religious motive? Thanks so much for that quote from MS.

I've been wondering how a practising religion person like H could be at ease with a confirmed atheist like B claimed he was.

Here it is again about "religious statement"

Relative believes 'someone was making a statement' in murder of Barry and Honey Sherman, unsealed documents show

A cache of unsealed documents related to the murder of Barry and Honey Sherman is revealing new details about the investigation into the deaths of the Toronto billionaire couple, including an interview with one relative who believes 'someone was making a statement' in their killings.

toronto.ctvnews.ca

Noting, imo..

GUEST VOICE: Why I'll be at the JDL protest outside Barry Sherman's house

World Jewry is blessed with many things. Among those blessings are our leaders in public office and the private sector. In the public sector, we are blessed with Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime minister of Israel, who has fought on behalf of Israel and the Jewish People on the battlefield, in the...

thecjn.ca

August 25, 2015 By Guidy Mamann
''Many have openly spoken and written against the Shermans’ support for the Liberals, arguing that Netanyahu knows best and that Harper is owed our support. An invited guest wrote to the Shermans, rejecting their invitation and urging them to reconsider.

The Jewish Defence League of Canada has, not surprisingly, decided to trust Netanyahu and follow his lead. They will be picketing outside of the Sherman residence, hoping to persuade other invited guests to reconsider their support of the Liberals and to stand firmly and supportively behind one of Israel’s closest friends and ally, Stephen Harper.

This will not be a protest against the generous work of the Shermans and their philanthropic accomplishments. It will be a protest against a political party that is supportive of a deal considered dangerous for Israel and world Jewry.''

2015

Justin Trudeau fundraiser picketed by Jewish group over Liberals' support for Iran nuclear deal

‘We don’t picket Jewish leaders in our community,’ Jewish Defence League head Meir Weinstein said. But ‘when it comes to Iran, that’s the red line’

nationalpost.com

''TORONTO — A Toronto Jewish group made the rare move of protesting one of its own community leaders on Wednesday evening, staging a picket outside billionaire Barry Sherman’s house during his cocktail fundraiser for the Liberal party.''

On a Facebook page for the protest, organizers posted one invitee’s emailed response to Sherman. In the email, Gabriel Erem told Sherman he was “tragically misinformed, and perhaps misguided regarding the political agenda of the handsome young man whom you will be toasting.”

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Oh, and political reasons also. There are so many layers here.

Democracy Watchdog

Barry Sherman's death cuts short the lobbying probe against him - Macleans.ca

The democracy watchdog group that complained about Sherman's activities promises to challenge the decision in court

www.macleans.ca

 

[Window21]

Personally, I don't think it has anything to do with religion.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

Personally, I don't think it has anything to do with religion.

OK, which way are you leaning? Politics? Personal problems? Family disgruntled? Random? Money? Sex? Greed? Business?

 

[FromGermany1]

Noting, imo..

GUEST VOICE: Why I'll be at the JDL protest outside Barry Sherman's house

World Jewry is blessed with many things. Among those blessings are our leaders in public office and the private sector. In the public sector, we are blessed with Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime minister of Israel, who has fought on behalf of Israel and the Jewish People on the battlefield, in the...

thecjn.ca

August 25, 2015 By Guidy Mamann
''Many have openly spoken and written against the Shermans’ support for the Liberals, arguing that Netanyahu knows best and that Harper is owed our support. An invited guest wrote to the Shermans, rejecting their invitation and urging them to reconsider.

The Jewish Defence League of Canada has, not surprisingly, decided to trust Netanyahu and follow his lead. They will be picketing outside of the Sherman residence, hoping to persuade other invited guests to reconsider their support of the Liberals and to stand firmly and supportively behind one of Israel’s closest friends and ally, Stephen Harper.

This will not be a protest against the generous work of the Shermans and their philanthropic accomplishments. It will be a protest against a political party that is supportive of a deal considered dangerous for Israel and world Jewry.''

2015

Justin Trudeau fundraiser picketed by Jewish group over Liberals' support for Iran nuclear deal

‘We don’t picket Jewish leaders in our community,’ Jewish Defence League head Meir Weinstein said. But ‘when it comes to Iran, that’s the red line’

nationalpost.com

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''TORONTO — A Toronto Jewish group made the rare move of protesting one of its own community leaders on Wednesday evening, staging a picket outside billionaire Barry Sherman’s house during his cocktail fundraiser for the Liberal party.''

On a Facebook page for the protest, organizers posted one invitee’s emailed response to Sherman. In the email, Gabriel Erem told Sherman he was “tragically misinformed, and perhaps misguided regarding the political agenda of the handsome young man whom you will be toasting.”
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“tragically misinformed, and perhaps misguided regarding the political agenda of the handsome young man whom you will be toasting.”
This makes me think now ....... Is that a bad allusion? After all FDA is also handsome. Was there a penchant for good looking men? I am confused.

 

[deugirtni]

So many things at play, and perhaps a fine line between differing goals. I have never thought of H as being particularly 'religious', but rather, wanting to keep and support her culture, etc. I guess the two are intertwined? And the Sherman political affiliations, were they more based on what various political parties could offer to generic pharma, or based on their beliefs about Israel issues?

 

[dotr]

“tragically misinformed, and perhaps misguided regarding the political agenda of the handsome young man whom you will be toasting.”
This makes me think now ....... Is that a bad allusion? After all FDA is also handsome. Was there a penchant for good looking men? I am confused.

Nothing to do with anyone, the article writer was alluding to the PM, Justin T. imo.

 

[JayFriend]

Does everyone here have a copy of the book "The Billionaire Murders" by Kevin Donovan?

I have the e-book. It's on Amazon. I highly recommend it for searching and quoting.

 

[ldlager]

Personally, I don't think it has anything to do with religion.

Just the religion of money IMO

 

[ollie2]

OK, which way are you leaning? Politics? Personal problems? Family disgruntled? Random? Money? Sex? Greed? Business?

Business/personal....Personal/business. IMO

 

[Window21]

Business/personal....Personal/business. IMO

I feel the same.

 

[Window21]

So many things at play, and perhaps a fine line between differing goals. I have never thought of H as being particularly 'religious', but rather, wanting to keep and support her culture, etc. I guess the two are intertwined? And the Sherman political affiliations, were they more based on what various political parties could offer to generic pharma, or based on their beliefs about Israel issues?

BS was all business, so I'm guessing he would vote for which ever party benefited him and the business in the long run. Also, they donated finically to political parties over the years, but I don't read into that too much. Most rich people do because it's a tax write off. Same as charitable donations...all written off or at least a big portion is written off.

I have always said anything is possible, but I have never seen any evidence of them being murdered over religion and as far as politics go, I have always said when you start becoming involved politically with other countries you could run the risk of being involved with some pretty dangerous people. Look at the Khashoggi murder or even the people Poutin surrounds himself with.
I am not saying this is the case here, but it is something to keep in mind. BS had dealing all around the world and big Pharma is HUGE with some pretty "big hitters" running the show. Lots and lots of money involved with these guys.

 

[deugirtni]

There seems to be a lot of conspiracy theories out there about govt involvement in the Sherman murders, but when you actually look into the claims, they're just not right at all. For me, there is way too much wrong with any theory of government (or industry for that matter) involvement. Such as.. the location, the method, the staging, etc. It would have been so much simpler to just get it done outside of Apo, or even if one wanted to set it up to look like something more personal, and therefore they did it to include H and to be located at the home, it would've been so much simpler to stage it as a neighborhood robbery. But instead, we have what we have here. Seems convoluted and disorganized to me.. and personal, and seems to have had inside knowledge of different things. They always say to 'follow the money', and the first people they look at are those closest. Not sure why this case would be thought to be different from the 'norm'. jmo.

 

[No_Stone_Unturned]

I'm going with personal. Someone very close to them hired a killer and it was done. Also, personal because the killer knew every little detail of the house. JMO