Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #3

[tarabull]

This is intriguing as it would be a boon to countries that have no work.

If the crop is grown outdoors, it seems like there would have to be lots of security around the operation. Would someplace like Mexico have it grown by the drug cartels? They could certainly flood the marker with a cheaper product.

With plants, it is hard to control them as all kinds of things affect a plant. Light, rain, soil. Can Canada remain a leader ?

How would Apotex fit into this?

I don’t see it as a big deal as there are so many jumping on the bandwagon

Maybe there's an answer to your question (bbm above) here??? https://canntrust.ca/2503-2/

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[nuff]

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With plants, it is hard to control them as all kinds of things affect a plant. Light, rain, soil. Can Canada remain a leader ?

How would Apotex fit into this?

I don’t see it as a big deal as there are so many jumping on the bandwagon

It seems what Apotex (and other drug companies) want to develop in medical cannabis in pill form. The advantages are that the THC dosage would be exact, there would be no stigma involved for patients who had it prescribed, and products could be developed with some of the other beneficial but non-hallucinogenic cannabinoids.

 

[kiwi50]

Another established drug company, laying off staff, even mentions competition from generic drugs.
More potential enemies for Barry Sherman.
Perhaps they formed a syndicate to get rid of him.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...0-jobs-as-it-works-to-cut-costs-idUSKBN1ES1HN

 

[minorone]

It seems what Apotex (and other drug companies) want to develop in medical cannabis in pill form. The advantages are that the THC dosage would be exact, there would be no stigma involved for patients who had it prescribed, and products could be developed with some of the other beneficial but non-hallucinogenic cannabinoids.

I recently attended a conference on dealing with legalized cannabis. Basically the opinion of the experts is that the government legalized cannabis without any clear understanding of the recreational and medicinal pros and cons. There were disappointed that no medical or expert practitioners were involved in the process.

A quick synopsis :

1) The government totally should have gone for oil, pill and edibles. They emphasized that there is no reason that anyone who requires medical cannabis needs to smoke it. And, in fact, smoking it in itself is very detrimental to health. According to the experts there, it is every bit as bad as smoking and the negative health consequences will impact us in the pocketbook.

2) The damage to younger developing brains exposed to cannabis smoke. This is a huge detriment for young individuals and society as whole.

3) Intake is more controlled with edibles, oil or pill form.

4) Risks with growing and chemicals required to grow, insurance, environmental consequences from resources needed to grow.

5) Concerns about growing and smoke damage to the inside of homes.

The most important take away was that oil, pills and edibles are the only safe scientific way to legalize cannabis.

Also as you stated the use of the beneficial but non-hallucinogenic cannabinoids.

 

[Grey-St]

I was just watching the 6pm news on CP24, and they covered the Sherman case live from outside the home. It's still an active crime scene investigation, taped off and all. Crime scene investigators were using metal detectors on the outdoor property surrounding the home today. Police will be working into the evening, and the investigation is showing "no signs of slowing down".

 

[human]

Totally agree with you as I too have been following this case since the beginning. Same thing over and over again. New people not bothering to read previos postings and bringing up the same things over and over. I took a break for a few days, hoping TPS would release a statement so there would be more to discuss on here...but obviously that is not to be.

I have never read a thread on Websleuths that has been based on such speculation and often absurd remarks.

Different people have varied ideas of what is absurd. With lack of info, people start imagining all kinds of things.

It is hard for someone to read so many pages so that is always a problem if you hear about a case later.

I am thinking of the ligature killing. I don’t feel that in anyway can that be a heat of the moment kind of killing. It sounds totally premeditated to me.

 

[Snoopster]

I know a lot of people....all of them lock their doors. Your comment is rather irrational.

I think it depends on where you live. A fair number of people living near us don't lock their doors. Most of them will lock up for the night when they go to bed though.

 

[Tortoise]

I was just watching the 6pm news on CP24, and they covered the Sherman case live from outside the home. It's still an active crime scene investigation, taped off and all. Crime scene investigators were using metal detectors on the outdoor property surrounding the home today. Police will be working into the evening, and the investigation is showing "no signs of slowing down".

Still snow on the ground?

 

[JDG]

Still snow on the ground?

Its been bitterly cold here in TO. Theres more to come, both dreadful cold and snow starting again on the weekend. Brrrr

Ive heard there will be snow as far south as Florida.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

Its been bitterly cold here in TO. Theres more to come, both dreadful cold and snow starting again on the weekend. Brrrr

Ive heard there will be snow as far south as Florida.

Snow expected in Jacksonville & possibly as far south as Orlando down here in Florida. Yowza!

 

[pamelado2]

Snow expected in Jacksonville & possibly as far south as Orlando down here in Florida. Yowza!

It snowed today in Hilton Head for my niece, 1st time since '89!

O/T but when do we get to start saying just the last 2 digits of the year? I'm sick of saying 2000 + the year. Maybe 20 or 21?

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[zencompass]

I was just watching the 6pm news on CP24, and they covered the Sherman case live from outside the home. It's still an active crime scene investigation, taped off and all. Crime scene investigators were using metal detectors on the outdoor property surrounding the home today. Police will be working into the evening, and the investigation is showing "no signs of slowing down".

Dear Grey-St,

Thank you for this update! Greatly appreciated!!

 

[MistyWaters]

I was just watching the 6pm news on CP24, and they covered the Sherman case live from outside the home. It's still an active crime scene investigation, taped off and all. Crime scene investigators were using metal detectors on the outdoor property surrounding the home today. Police will be working into the evening, and the investigation is showing "no signs of slowing down".

That's interesting, metal detectors. Iirc it was mentioned something about metal regarding searching the sewers as well. Gun, handcuffs?

ETA: Speculation only, a staged suicide, handcuffing the victims, hands behind their backs?

 

[Twinkle]

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https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/video?binId=1.810401#1295875
Not sure if my link works. Go to ctv news and look for the video "police sweeping Sherman property with metal detectors"

 

[deugirtni]

"........."When you have high-profile cases, they garner more media attention, they garner more attention from the public, and everyone's talking about them because it was someone that was well-known or someone that was rich and famous," explained Det.-Sgt. Stacy Gallant, who handles cold cases with Toronto police's homicide squad.

But when someone has an extensive network of friends and family in Toronto and beyond, "then you have more interviews to do, you have more people to contact, you have more to investigate," he said.

'It takes time sometimes'...."
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/high-profile-cases-1.4470585

Almost sounds like they are trying to prepare the public for a cold/unresolved case.

 

[dotr]

That's interesting, metal detectors. Iirc it was mentioned something about metal regarding searching the sewers as well. Gun, handcuffs?

ETA: Speculation only, a staged suicide, handcuffing the victims, hands behind their backs?

Rbbm. a needle would be interesting, imo.
http://www.evidencemagazine.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1893

Benefits of Utilizing a Metal Detector
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Bullets aren’t always on the ground. Perhaps a shot has become embedded in a tree, making it almost impossible to spot by eye. A metal detector will show you where it is.
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How about a hypodermic needle in the leaves? It’s not safe to be pawing around for it. Let your detector pin point it for you and stay safe.
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Let’s say you are searching for a handgun or knife or some other weapon in a house hidden in the walls or under the floor. You can actually program some detectors to reject common things like sheetrock nails, screws, and even armored cable, letting you find what you are looking for. A few years ago this would not have been possible, but with the technological advancements available today, your detector will help you in more situations than you can imagine.
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Think about working cold cases, where evidence has been buried either by years of leaf fall and erosion, or by human hands. Could you locate something several inches or several feet in the ground with your eyes? Using a metal detector you can.
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In an extreme example of a cold-case investigation, a team revisited the site of the 1876 Battle of the Little Bighorn (a.k.a. Custer’s Last Stand) shortly after a range fire in the area. Using quality detectors and experienced operators, they were able to recover countless cartridge cases and bullets. The advancement of today’s forensics allowed this team to actually track the movement of various rifles across the battlefield. We probably will not work a cold case quite that old, but it is important to know just how much you can accomplish with this technology.
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[MistyWaters]

Rbbm. a needle would be interesting, imo.
http://www.evidencemagazine.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1893

Excellent thought! Whether or not the toxicological reports have been concluded yet, that's a good possibility.

"....Investigators are also awaiting the results of toxicological reports, including blood and urine samples, which would provide more information including about drugs, Mendelson said. These test results can take weeks or more, he said...."
https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/...be-what-happened-inside-50-old-colony-rd.html

 

[cluciano63]

Almost sounds like they are trying to prepare the public for a cold/unresolved case.

Yes I feel almost sure this will end up being “open” or “unknown” for manner of death.

 

[Jennifer17]

Rbbm. a needle would be interesting, imo.
http://www.evidencemagazine.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1893

I don't find that feasible, like the gloves. Why would someone go to that trouble and then toss evidence aside on the property, when it could be easily disposed of in rubbish bin.

 

[1&2&3]

Above it was mentioned that Barry was a workaholic and Honey is the one who probably enjoyed the society part of being a billionaire’s wife. I will totally agree with this. Men either play golf or are still engaged in their business at Barry’s and Honey’s age.

Many highly successful men can not stop working to benefit from their hard work.

At this age, the majority of couples I know lead their own life. They have been married for ages, don’t want the mess a divorce causes, and have long ago adjusted to going their own way. So sad, but so true. They appear together whenever an event requires it. Only the ones truly close to them know the truth.
Others may suspect it, but neither one will admit it! JMO.