Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #5

[ldlager]

Thanks goodness

 

[Grey-St]

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...arry-and-honey-sherman-death-case-friday.html
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Just wanted to point out that quite a few people here guessed correctly that both pathologists had the same findings regarding marks on the hands/wrists.

That's an interesting update, thank you!

 

[Grey-St]

Apotex CEO Jeremy Desai resigns
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/rep...erman-founded-apotex-resigns/article37744169/

Plot twist.

 

[rhenium]

If the scene is being released then I think it means that there is no double homicide in this case. JMO

That's what I think, too. The suicide rate for the personality type I imagine BS to belong to is very rare, unless they are experiencing a period of major loss of power and control with no foreseeable means of regaining that loss. There are hints/references online for such potential loss so I wouldn’t be surprised if TPS declared this case a murder-suicide.

 

[Grey-St]

Come to think of it however, a release just means that the investigators are finished investigating and they are releasing the scene. How does that indicate that it was or wasn't a suicide? We don't even know yet. JMO

It doesn't. They've held the crime scene for 6 weeks gathering evidence. An investigation still goes on well past the release of a crime scene.

We'll just have to wait and see what the update is in 30 minutes.

 

[Inspektor Clueso]

It doesn't. They've held the crime scene for 6 weeks gathering evidence. An investigation still goes on well past the release of a crime scene.

We'll just have to wait and see what the update is in 30 minutes.

Sorry I should have rephrased that:

I realize the investigation still goes on long after the crime scene is examined.
I meant to say that when the crime scene is released, it just means they are finished combing through the scene, and will gather to investigate their findings.

Should have elaborated more, sorry.

 

[JayFriend]

If the scene is being released then I think it means that there is no double homicide in this case. JMO

Why would you say that? Maybe they have all the evidence they're going to get from the scene. Let's wait for the news conference at 1:00 p.m.

 

[Grey-St]

Sorry I should have rephrased that:

I realize the investigation still goes on long after the crime scene is examined.
I meant to say that when the crime scene is released, it just means they are finished combing through the scene, and will gather to investigate their findings.

Should have elaborated more, sorry.

You got it. No need to apologize!

 

[AllyJane]

Come to think of it however, a release just means that the investigators are finished investigating and they are releasing the scene. How does that indicate that it was or wasn't a suicide? We don't even know yet. JMO

Steve Ryan on CP24 speculated that because the PI's team is going in that they are not agreeing with the findings. He said that they wouldn't need to keep investigating if the LE were going to say it was a murder/murder. But again that is his speculation.

 

[NaanOfYourBusiness]

YEs they are reporting that he resigned today to pursue new opportunities and will be replaced by vice chairman Jack Kay.
Here’s another link to the story:

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2018/01/26/apotex-president-and-ceo-jeremy-desai-resigns.html

and for this announcement, TPS is holding a press conference?!!??!

 

[ldlager]

How is that succession plan going again??????

 

[AllyJane]

Plot twist.

Quite the odd timing. Plus it is effective immediately "to pursue other opportunities" which sounds like he got the boot for some reason IMO.

 

[NaanOfYourBusiness]

Thanks for your input. After learning about the jackets pulled down however, I'm trying to work that out in my head that if it IS a murder suicide (and I felt really strongly about that, and partly still do), how is it possible that both of them ended up that way, and one murdered, and one committed suicide.

Still boggles me.

"murder-assisted-suicide" .. the Shermans had many paid staff that could 'assist'

 

[dotr]

Bumping for anyone just tuning in.Starting in approx.2 minutes.
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...arry-and-honey-sherman-death-case-friday.html

TorontoPolice News Conference | LiveStream | Friday, Jan. 26th

 

[Tighthead]

My time out ending coincides with the presser. Not a coincidence.

 

[Lexiintoronto]

Quite the odd timing. Plus it is effective immediately "to pursue other opportunities" which sounds like he got the boot for some reason IMO.

It's on the heels of the lobbying probe being dropped yesterday - did they reach a compromise?

 

[Lexiintoronto]

My time out ending coincides with the presser. Not a coincidence.

You took one for the team.

 

[Wondergirl]

Presser Notes – January 26, 2018

-Homicide Det. Sargent Susan Gomes is speaking today
-Post mortem conducted via forensic pathologist.
-Conjecture and speculation have no place
-All 3 manners of death considered
-As a unit, we have spent 1,000’s of hours on this investigation

 

[AllyJane]

LE says double homicide

 

[tarabull]

double homicide both targeted