Canada - Barry, 75, & Honey Sherman, 70, found dead, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #5

[Lexiintoronto]

Presser:
-spent thousands of hours on investigation
-search and seizure of IT regarding Apotex information has been 'challenging'
-family participation has been complete and ongoing
-H& BS last seen alive on Wedneday, Dec 15

'DOUBLE HOMICIDE' is the conclusion

 

[NaanOfYourBusiness]

Options:


double-suicide


or


homicide-suicide


or


double-homicide




All three options were considered.


Executed 20 search/seizure warrants.


150 items have been seized for review and analysis.


127 witness statements taken so far.


H&B Wed Dec 13 last seen alive
no contact until..
friday Dec 15 discovered


CALLED IT ... DOUBLE HOMICIDE!!!!

 

[Inspektor Clueso]

Double murder!!!!

 

[NaanOfYourBusiness]

A person is 'outstanding' for this event.


TPS called it a TARGETED HIT!

 

[Wondergirl]

Presser Notes – January 26, 2018

-Homicide Det. Sargent Susan Gomes is speaking today

-Post mortem conducted via forensic pathologist.

-Conjecture and speculation have no place

-All 3 manners of death considered

-As a unit, we have spent 1,000’s of hours on this investigation

-2 Residential places have been searched

-Barry’s digital devices at Apotex were difficult to access in particular

-This morning the residences have been returned

-150 packaged items are being forensically examined

-127 witness statements compiled, and is growing each day

-4 TB of security video from commercial and residential = 500 hours in each of these TB

-Learned that Honey and Barry Wednesday Dec. 13[SUP]th[/SUP]. Neither of the 2 had communicated with family or friends after that.

-No signs of forced entry into the home

-Found deceased hanging by belts in a semi – seated position by the pool, they were wearing their clothing

-There is sufficient evidence to determine that this was a double homicide

-If anyone has anything valuable to the investigation, please come forward

-Q & A - The Sherman's were targeted in this event

-The home was the size that it warranted 6 weeks of review

 

[Lexiintoronto]

Presser: no suspects being discussed
-6 week review of evidence has led police to believe it is a double homicide, will not elaborate
-Shermans were targeted
-will not discuss what was found in the home

 

[tarabull]

anyone who had access to the home in the last weeks and months leading up to those days are important to them.....there is a significant list of people.

significant amount of images of people in the neighborhood.

have an extensive list of people they are looking forward to speaking to....

won't discuss suspects.

 

[ttcRider]

Holy crap... Making myself some crow pie. :blushing:

 

[Wondergirl]

-Q & A - Anyone who has had access to the home is important to LE

-Significant list of people LE is speaking to

-Significant amount of images in the neighborhood

-We certainly believe we have captured images of people who were in the neighborhood

-We have an extensive list of people that we are looking forward to speaking to

-Not going to discuss suspects

-LE believes that they were targeted

-LE believes in the 6 weeks of evidence that they have obtained, that they were targeted

-Not discussing evidence

-LE has spoken to the 2nd forensic pathologist

-LE is working with other police forces, and always do

-LE said it's possible, several times, but, I couldn't hear the journalists questions

 

[Lexiintoronto]

-extensive list of people (suspects) who we are looking forward to speaking to
-LE have spoken to the second pathologist
-we always work with other police forces in any investigation
-Provincial agencies involved
-will not discuss if the Shermans were killed before being placed in positions they were found in
-have list of 'significant amount' of people who may have had access to lockbox/home

 

[Lexiintoronto]

-The family response 'happy that some answers have been answered for them'

 

[Wondergirl]

Q & A:

-No distractions from the get go

-COD - not discussing belt question as to whether they were killed at the pool

-Hope to garner more witnesses after today's presser

-348 investigative actions to follow up on

-Confirm with expert partners in the field

-Cannot say if hardware or jewelry was taken from the house

-She was the officer in charge of investigation from the very beginning

-All 3 theories were equally reviewed every day

-The family is not unlike any other family

-The family is happy it is moving forward

 

[AllyJane]

Steve Ryan on CP24 speculated that because the PI's team is going in that they are not agreeing with the findings. He said that they wouldn't need to keep investigating if the LE were going to say it was a murder/murder. But again that is his speculation.

Steve Ryan is wrong again. And right after LE said that it was targetted, Ryan asks if it was targetted. Sigh.

 

[Wondergirl]

LE stressed repeatedly that each of the 3 possible outcomes for their deaths were considered equally during the last 6 weeks.

1. Double-Suicide

or

2. Homicide-Suicide


or


3. Double-Homicide


All three options were considered, and after 6 weeks of evidence evaluation, LE is now certain that it is #3 - a double-homicide

 

[ldlager]

A person is 'outstanding' for this event.


TPS called it a TARGETED HIT!

She seemed to slip up and said "a single person" IMO

 

[Tortoise]

APOTEX CHIEF RESIGNS SUDDENLY! No reason given!

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/rep...erman-founded-apotex-resigns/article37744169/

Oh snap!!

very :fishy:

IMO

 

[nuff]

Announcement of Desai's resignation immediately before the TPS presser is most interesting. What do people make of it - it can't have been coincidental.

 

[Tighthead]

It’s interesting that the Apotex board nudged the CEO out. I assume that until his death Sherman was essentially in control. Does anyone know who makes up the board currently?

 

[Wondergirl]

Thank-you to everyone who took notes.

No surprise here for me (and also for many others I'm sure).

I am very hopeful for justice so that the Sherman Family will have a modicum of peace.

 

[BUF]

Also sounds like they were in contact with LE where their other residence was...probably Florida.