CANADA Canada - Billionaire Couple Barry & Honey Sherman Murdered at Home, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #22

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2020 rbbm
''A foreign country has surrendered “evidence” to Toronto homicide detectives probing the targeted murders of billionaires Barry and Honey Sherman, police documents filed in court reveal.

And, in a second indication of activity on the almost three-year-old case, detectives have recently served a search warrant somewhere in Canada.

“The results (of these searches) have yielded new evidence and have assisted investigators in corroborating existing evidence, such as witness statements, tips and video surveillance,”
according to Det.-Const. Dennis Yim of the Toronto homicide unit. ''

2022 rbbm
''To date, police have prepared requests for two separate countries by way of treaty agreements with Canada. Yim refused to identify the countries, except to say they are among the 34 countries that have a Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty (MLAT) to share information with Canada relating to criminal probes. The countries are: Argentina, Austria, Australia, Bahamas, Belgium, Brazil, China, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, India, Israel, Italy, South Korea, Mexico, the Netherlands, Norway, Peru, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Thailand, Trinidad and Tobago, Ukraine, United Kingdom, United States, Uruguay. Canada has a similar treaty with a 35th jurisdiction, Hong Kong, but that sharing agreement is currently “suspended,” according to federal officials.

Yim told court during cross-examination that if he identified the countries publicly it would alert the killer or killers that police are on to them. He also would not say if the countries are of interest because the suspect lives there, visits there, banks there or has some other connection. And, if the person is not the killer, Yim said he did not want to “prejudice” an innocent party by informing the public that people believed the person was involved in the murders.''
 
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''A fascinating murder mystery, Barry and Honey Sherman were brutally murdered in their Toronto home in 2017. Deemed a murder-suicide, theories and speculation continue and the case remains active and ongoing to this day. Why so much attention? The couple were billionaires; Barry Sherman was deemed the 15th richest man in Canada.

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The four-part docuseries discuss the case in depth for those who are curious to know everything about it. It's also led by local investigative reporter Kevin Donovan, who has been studying the case from the start. For those curious about conspiracy theories, Donovan leaves no stone unturned. He looks at the couple’s personal lives, and their secret will, and even does a complete reconstruction of what he believes happened before, during, and after their murders.''



FWIW, I found the series interesting. I made some notes that include spoilers for the media thread.
Part 1& 2.

Part 3 & 4.


Maybe that is where KD will leave it until there’s new, compelling information or a break in the case.
I’m still watching the Shechtman court case to see if there’s movement, I’m guessing it will go to trial as it has now been in the court system for years and based on other cases MS has been involved in she’s not going to settle no matter the odds, imo.
 
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  • #923
We made a mistake and named a person with Portuguese heritage that is connected to people in the case :/

Israel, Japan, the Bahamas etc. have been named as possible countries that the police are requesting information about the case, but KD also mentioned Portugal and we’ve wondered if it’s because a player is connected to that country.
@Lexiintoronto kindly says “we” but it was really me. Oops. I forgot the rules. Sorry!
 
  • #924
I am not sure I understand the Portugal reference.

If KD believes the killer could be someone in the heir's orbit, that person could be from overseas; from some mid-eastern country for example, and could have previous experience in targeted activities. That would be an interesting combination of two of my categories, Professional Hitman -and- Friend or Related to Family Member.

Is there anybody who is in the heir's orbit, who at one time was associated with an intelligence or counter-intelligence agency? That may be difficult to ascertain, as these agencies are extremely secretive.

If the NW is known to the heirs, (KD's belief and my assumption that the NW is the killer) then likely a number of people know who he is. Unfortunately, if those people with some knowledge are not following the case closely, they may not appreciate what they know. As well they may be concerned with incriminating a friend or family member.

Somebody knows something, IMO
IIRC, JS completed some military training in Israel
 
  • #925
FWIW, I found the series interesting. I made some notes that include spoilers for the media thread.
Part 1& 2.

Part 3 & 4.


Maybe that is where KD will leave it until there’s new, compelling information or a break in the case.
I’m still watching the Shechtman court case to see if there’s movement, I’m guessing it will go to trial as it has now been in the court system for years and based on other cases MS has been involved in she’s not going to settle no matter the odds, imo.
Except in all her previous cases MS could and did rely on BS‘s money to pay her legal costs, damages, etc. Things are different now.
 
  • #926
2020 rbbm
''A foreign country has surrendered “evidence” to Toronto homicide detectives probing the targeted murders of billionaires Barry and Honey Sherman, police documents filed in court reveal.

And, in a second indication of activity on the almost three-year-old case, detectives have recently served a search warrant somewhere in Canada.

“The results (of these searches) have yielded new evidence and have assisted investigators in corroborating existing evidence, such as witness statements, tips and video surveillance,”
according to Det.-Const. Dennis Yim of the Toronto homicide unit. ''

2022 rbbm
''To date, police have prepared requests for two separate countries by way of treaty agreements with Canada. Yim refused to identify the countries, except to say they are among the 34 countries that have a Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty (MLAT) to share information with Canada relating to criminal probes. The countries are: Argentina, Austria, Australia, Bahamas, Belgium, Brazil, China, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, India, Israel, Italy, South Korea, Mexico, the Netherlands, Norway, Peru, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Russia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Thailand, Trinidad and Tobago, Ukraine, United Kingdom, United States, Uruguay. Canada has a similar treaty with a 35th jurisdiction, Hong Kong, but that sharing agreement is currently “suspended,” according to federal officials.

Yim told court during cross-examination that if he identified the countries publicly it would alert the killer or killers that police are on to them. He also would not say if the countries are of interest because the suspect lives there, visits there, banks there or has some other connection. And, if the person is not the killer, Yim said he did not want to “prejudice” an innocent party by informing the public that people believed the person was involved in the murders.''

I wonder if this list of Countries narrows down which ones to follow $$ via bit coin transactions and where best a foreign investor would like to use to action payments and or deposit. One with little Government oversight or taxes.

I found it interesting that Hong Kong is not the most progressive country to learn crypto in, it has strong regulations and very limited access to transactions.

This topic has me recalling JS photo of his seed code. Did anyone already share the thought the pic was to show someone he was making a bitcoin payment. if so, Would this likely imply the countries LE are requesting information from?
 
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I wonder if this list of Countries narrows down which ones to follow $$ via bit coin transactions and where best a foreign investor would like to use to action payments and or deposit. One with little Government oversight or taxes.

I found it interesting that Hong Kong is not the most progressive country to learn crypto in, it has strong regulations and very limited access to transactions.

This topic has me recalling JS photo of his seed code. Did anyone already share the thought the pic was to show someone he was making a bitcoin payment. if so, Would this likely imply the countries LE are requesting information from?
Found more interesting information here

I can see why the investigation takes so long, the bar to reach is very high, LE may not have enough proof to get and information released.

In general, to obtain court-ordered assistance under the Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters Act, the request must establish reasonable grounds to believe that,

  1. an offence has been committed; and
  2. evidence of the commission of the offence, or information that may reveal the whereabouts of a suspect, will be found in Canada.
This requires a clear connection between the foreign investigation and the Canadian evidence sought.
 
  • #928
The fact that JS and FM were in Japan and that BS and HS had planned to go to Japan the next year may or may not be connected to each other. However, was the planned BS and HS trip to Japan also about cryptocurrency or not?
 
  • #929
The fact that JS and FM were in Japan and that BS and HS had planned to go to Japan the next year may or may not be connected to each other. However, was the planned BS and HS trip to Japan also about cryptocurrency or not?
I believe that I read/heard that Honey’s trip to Japan was long planned and long wished for, such that she was a bit miffed that JS beat her there by a few months. Does anyone else recall this? Was this from MS? In KD’s book or podcast?

HS’s trip to Japan had nothing to do with cryptocurrency IMO.
 
  • #930
I believe that I read/heard that Honey’s trip to Japan was long planned and long wished for, such that she was a bit miffed that JS beat her there by a few months. Does anyone else recall this? Was this from MS? In KD’s book or podcast?

HS’s trip to Japan had nothing to do with cryptocurrency IMO.
For me it was unknown until now. As so many details ....
 
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I wonder if this list of Countries narrows down which ones to follow $$ via bit coin transactions and where best a foreign investor would like to use to action payments and or deposit. One with little Government oversight or taxes.

I found it interesting that Hong Kong is not the most progressive country to learn crypto in, it has strong regulations and very limited access to transactions.

This topic has me recalling JS photo of his seed code. Did anyone already share the thought the pic was to show someone he was making a bitcoin payment. if so, Would this likely imply the countries LE are requesting information from?
Can he be so stupid to send a "code" to someone??
 
  • #932
I believe that I read/heard that Honey’s trip to Japan was long planned and long wished for, such that she was a bit miffed that JS beat her there by a few months. Does anyone else recall this? Was this from MS? In KD’s book or podcast?

HS’s trip to Japan had nothing to do with cryptocurrency IMO.
Agreed. Bs didn’t need to deal in crypto, and even if he did he would have found an expert to hire to do it.
 
  • #933
I believe that I read/heard that Honey’s trip to Japan was long planned and long wished for, such that she was a bit miffed that JS beat her there by a few months. Does anyone else recall this? Was this from MS? In KD’s book or podcast?

HS’s trip to Japan had nothing to do with cryptocurrency IMO.

You’re right, it was from the Q & A. KD said JS went there ‘all of a sudden’ which also stood out to me:
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I thought this was also interesting:

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  • #934
You’re right, it was from the Q & A. KD said JS went there ‘all of a sudden’ which also stood out to me:
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I thought this was also interesting:

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Well that's interesting. Was FM ever interviewed? There seems to be little to no trace of him online...
 
  • #935
Well that's interesting. Was FM ever interviewed? There seems to be little to no trace of him online...
FM was interviewed. There are some unredacted parts that indicate things like he felt uncomfortable during family events at B&H’s home and would hide out in the basement. He has little to no online presence.
 
  • #936
You’re right, it was from the Q & A. KD said JS went there ‘all of a sudden’ which also stood out to me:
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I thought this was also interesting:

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@Lexiintoronto, you are a treasure trove of information. That is in fact the source I meant - even the word “miffed”. It says something about Honey that her child first travelling to her dream spot miffed her. It also says perhaps a little bit about JS.

And that other question from the reader. Gah. It creeps me out.

Thanks for posting those great excerpts!
 
  • #937
Thanks, Lexi. I do find it interesting that only a couple of people returned KD's calls, given that JS must have given them a head's up that they may be contacted.
 
  • #938
Thanks, Lexi. I do find it interesting that only a couple of people returned KD's calls, given that JS must have given them a head's up that they may be contacted.
Further to this, remember that JS told Kevin D that he would get AP to talk to him but that never happened. I wonder if JS told the people on the list not to talk to KD. MOO.
 
  • #939
Can he be so stupid to send a "code" to someone??
I believe some refer to it as arrogant. Some have the true self belief that they are just smarter than everyone else.
 
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