CANADA Canada - Billionaire Couple Barry & Honey Sherman Murdered at Home, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #24

[dotr]

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WARMINGTON: Toronto synagogue being shot up the latest in Iran war being felt in GTA

Whether we want to admit it or not, the war in Iran is being felt here in the Greater Toronto Area. Read more.

torontosun.com

''At Temple Emanu-El on Old Colony Rd. at Harrison Rd., not far from where Honey and Barry Sherman were murdered in 2017 off Bayview Ave., Toronto Police said they “responded to reports of a gunshots being fired” late Monday and then found “evidence of gunfire” at the scene.

While Johnson has not confirmed exactly how many rounds were fired or the make of the gun, he said there were “reports of a vehicle leaving the area shortly after the shots were fired” and that officers are canvassing the area and “actively reviewing” security tapes.''

 

[WINDSOR]

They know because they have footage of him. There’s a map of his movements in the ITOs. They know which route he took and where he was at each minute while walking through the neighborhood.

If they have footage of the WM on either Vyner Road or Forest Heights Blvd. or Bannatyne Drive, there is a good possibility the WM was nearby Temple Emanu-El. at some point to get to these streets from Old Colony Road.

 

[Lexiintoronto]

I looked a few years ago, but didn’t find the schedule for the date they were murdered. Back then, and more recently, I found the evening practices are from 7:30–9:00.

https://www.templeemanuel.ca/event/choir2.html

Huge stretch, I know, but Alexandra is a singer; very talented with Hebrew songs. Any chance the killer expected her to attend the choir practice? Be involved, even if not a singer in the choir? And she would have been the third victim (and she apparently has expressed that she may be a target.)

That’s why the killer waited around? He expected her to drop by? Her older child may have been with her. So, to avoid him from having access to the murder scene and be a witness, they were placed in the one room a child couldn’t access.

ETA: I’ll leave it up, but this is too far-fetched.

 

[fadedglitter]

ETA: I’ll leave it up, but this is too far-fetched.

No more far-fetched than theories involving additional people on site who leave no forensic traces and have access to a secret undetectable route to and from the home. Or a plainclothes police officer following up on a 911 call alone the day after a supposed call. Or a missing will.

Your suggestion is far more plausible than all of those things. It doesn’t require an all-knowing perpetrator, only a perpetrator who knew something about the area and the family and was taking precautions.

 

[WINDSOR]

Huge stretch, I know, but Alexandra is a singer; very talented with Hebrew songs. Any chance the killer expected her to attend the choir practice? Be involved, even if not a singer in the choir? And she would have been the third victim (and she apparently has expressed that she may be a target.)

That’s why the killer waited around? He expected her to drop by? Her older child may have been with her. So, to avoid him from having access to the murder scene and be a witness, they were placed in the one room a child couldn’t access.

ETA: I’ll leave it up, but this is too far-fetched.

I am guessing that Alexandra was not a member of this temple's choir. If she was, I believe that it would have been discussed at the time of the deaths. However it should not be to difficult to find out. Either a reporter, or investigator can ask Alexandra, or a choir member from that time can mention it.

 

[Clue Keeper]

Barry and Honey Sherman deaths a targeted double homicide, police say

Police said they did not find any signs of forced entry into the home.

 

[ldlager]

Barry and Honey Sherman deaths a targeted double homicide, police say

There was no need for the murderers to force an entry into the home.
HS may have left the door unlocked when she returned home that night after shopping. In addition, tradespeople evidently left windows open and possibly doors unlocked. Or the murderer(s) may have had a key. Or knew how to open the lockbox that the realtor left. Or the killer(s) rang the bell or knocked on the door and HS answered.

 

[WINDSOR]

There was no need for the murderers to force an entry into the home.
HS may have left the door unlocked when she returned home that night after shopping. In addition, tradespeople evidently left windows open and possibly doors unlocked. Or the murderer(s) may have had a key. Or knew how to open the lockbox that the realtor left. Or the killer(s) rang the bell or knocked on the door and HS answered.

Old saying, "locks only keep honest people out".

In the past, lock boxes tended to be easy to pilfer. New ones now are a little more challenging I have been told.

Simplest way to enter, is to knock on the door, and when answered ,force your way in.

 

[Clue Keeper]

There was no need for the murderers to force an entry into the home.
HS may have left the door unlocked when she returned home that night after shopping. In addition, tradespeople evidently left windows open and possibly doors unlocked. Or the murderer(s) may have had a key. Or knew how to open the lockbox that the realtor left. Or the killer(s) rang the bell or knocked on the door and HS answered.

When every theory starts with ‘or,’ it usually means there’s no actual evidence for any of them.

 

[fadedglitter]

When every theory starts with ‘or,’ it usually means there’s no actual evidence for any of them.

“No forced entry” is cop code for “the neighbours can chill out; nobody’s gonna break in to steal your stuff and murder you.” There had been break-ins in the area and people were on edge.

Usually it calms people down. In this case it had the opposite effect. If Det. Price hadn’t tried to reassure the neighbours that there wasn’t a roaming murderer, many things might have gone differently.

 

[dotr]

Could the recent shooting at yet another synagogue near the Sherman home, (12 minutes), possibly by fluke, uncover further information about the S murders? speculation, imo.

‘We will not tolerate it’: Police promise relentless probe into GTA synagogue shootings

Police and political leaders gathered outside a North York synagogue Sunday morning, vowing a relentless investigation and stronger protections for Jewish communities after gunfire struck two GTA locations this weekend.

www.cp24.com

''Toronto Police Chief Myron Demkiw said investigators are pursuing every lead and dedicating significant resources to the case.
“We are going to be relentless and leave no stone unturned, and every resource necessary will be brought,” he said during Sunday’s conference.''

 

[Warwick1991]

Could the recent shooting at yet another synagogue near the Sherman home, (12 minutes), possibly by fluke, uncover further information about the S murders? speculation, imo.

‘We will not tolerate it’: Police promise relentless probe into GTA synagogue shootings

Police and political leaders gathered outside a North York synagogue Sunday morning, vowing a relentless investigation and stronger protections for Jewish communities after gunfire struck two GTA locations this weekend.

www.cp24.com

''Toronto Police Chief Myron Demkiw said investigators are pursuing every lead and dedicating significant resources to the case.
“We are going to be relentless and leave no stone unturned, and every resource necessary will be brought,” he said during Sunday’s conference.''

I tend to think that these shootings are probably unrelated to the Sherman murders, although there is no certainty. I think the shootings are the result of an increasing tempo of violence that has been directed at Jewish communities in Western countries since the events of October 2023 and beyond.

It is possible that the murder of the Shermans was ideological or sectarian, a possibility that most of us at WS haven't pursued as much as other scenarios.

 

[fadedglitter]

It is possible that the murder of the Shermans was ideological or sectarian, a possibility that most of us at WS haven't pursued as much as other scenarios.

TPS investigated and discarded this theory. We know because they unredacted that reference in the ITOs.

 

[dotr]

I tend to think that these shootings are probably unrelated to the Sherman murders, although there is no certainty. I think the shootings are the result of an increasing tempo of violence that has been directed at Jewish communities in Western countries since the events of October 2023 and beyond.

It is possible that the murder of the Shermans was ideological or sectarian, a possibility that most of us at WS haven't pursued as much as other scenarios.

That particular post, was less about the shootings and more about something new turning up when LE return full-force to investigating in the neighbourhood.
Maybe recently discovered cctv, or somebody with information who is now motivated to speak up.
optimistic speculation.

 

[dotr]

I tend to think that these shootings are probably unrelated to the Sherman murders, although there is no certainty. I think the shootings are the result of an increasing tempo of violence that has been directed at Jewish communities in Western countries since the events of October 2023 and beyond.

It is possible that the murder of the Shermans was ideological or sectarian, a possibility that most of us at WS haven't pursued as much as other scenarios.

Fwiw, last night,13 minutes away from the former S home..

Man shot during home invasion in Midtown Toronto, police say

Emergency crews were called to the area around 2:20 a.m. for reports of gunfire. Paramedics transported an adult male to the hospital.

toronto.citynews.ca

 

[WINDSOR]

Taking a look backward, I wonder what has changed as the result of the Sherman's death, or conversely what did not change.

The areas where we might have expected changes.

• Big Pharma, I do not have much knowledge of this industry, but I do not think much has changed as a results of their deaths, other than Apotex being sold to a Corporate Hedge Fund.
• The Real Estate/Construction industry, again I do not see any changes that could be a result of the Sherman's deaths.
• The Sherman's friends, like FD'A and Honey's family. They were losers as the gravy train ended for them.
• The four children, as heirs they were the only winners I can see.

Have I missed anybody? Winners or Losers?

 

[Sillybilly]

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[dotr]

Just as well BS apparently did not follow through with the "Giving Pledge" he had been interested in at one time, imo, speculation.

Mar 17, 2026

Billionaires back away from Bill Gates' 'fake Boomer club' over his Epstein ties

A shadow looms over a philanthropic initiative backed by Bill Gates due to his link to late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Read on.

torontosun.com

“The Giving Pledge” was launched in 2010 by Gates, his then-wife Melissa French Gates and Warren Buffett, and encouraged the uber-wealthy to contribute at least half of their net worth to charitable causes.''

''However, despite its good intentions, billionaires don’t want to (or now have an excuse to not) be connected to the campaign after Gates revealed his ties to Epstein.''

2019

WARMINGTON: Did billionaire Shermans want to leave wealth to Bill Gates' charity?

Honey and Barry Sherman were known for giving millions to local charities.

torontosun.com

'The issue came up after the British newspaper, The Daily Mail, reported Thursday that shortly before their brutal Dec. 13, 2017 murders in the couple’s Old Colony Rd. mansion, they talked about signing up with The Giving Pledge initiative started by Bill and Melinda Gates of Microsoft fame.'

'In the Sherman’s case, it would mean that the bulk of their estimated $5-billion estate would go The Giving Pledge and not to family members or designated beneficiaries as laid out in a last will and testament.'

Why you cannot murder someone and inherit their NY Estate: NY estate law’s slayer statute; Estates of Sherman - NY Estate Lawyers, Jason W. Stern & Associates

As a NY estate lawyer with more than two decades of NY…

queensestatelaw.com

2020
''The 2017 murders of the billionaires remain unsolved. In addition to being a philanthropist Barry Sherman was also known as cut throat businessman with a litigious reputation. At the time of his death Sherman had more than 150 open lawsuits pending. Unclear who killed the Shermans and why, one of the main motives for whoever murdered the couple would be financial gain. Were the Sherman’s children upset with their parents upcoming plan to pledge the bulk of their fortune to the “Giving Pledge” or could it have been a disgruntled associate who came out on the wrong end of a deal?''

 

[fadedglitter]

The pledge is just a pledge. It isn’t a separate charity. Most likely he would have continued with the Sherman Foundation and Apotex Foundation. He donated large amounts but far less than half his net worth; that said, he believed he had years of giving ahead of him and most of his net worth was tied up in Apotex. It wasn’t liquid.