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''At Temple Emanu-El on Old Colony Rd. at Harrison Rd., not far from where Honey and Barry Sherman were murdered in 2017 off Bayview Ave., Toronto Police said they “responded to reports of a gunshots being fired” late Monday and then found “evidence of gunfire” at the scene.

While Johnson has not confirmed exactly how many rounds were fired or the make of the gun, he said there were “reports of a vehicle leaving the area shortly after the shots were fired” and that officers are canvassing the area and “actively reviewing” security tapes.''
 
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They know because they have footage of him. There’s a map of his movements in the ITOs. They know which route he took and where he was at each minute while walking through the neighborhood.
If they have footage of the WM on either Vyner Road or Forest Heights Blvd. or Bannatyne Drive, there is a good possibility the WM was nearby Temple Emanu-El. at some point to get to these streets from Old Colony Road.
 
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I looked a few years ago, but didn’t find the schedule for the date they were murdered. Back then, and more recently, I found the evening practices are from 7:30–9:00.

Huge stretch, I know, but Alexandra is a singer; very talented with Hebrew songs. Any chance the killer expected her to attend the choir practice? Be involved, even if not a singer in the choir? And she would have been the third victim (and she apparently has expressed that she may be a target.)

That’s why the killer waited around? He expected her to drop by? Her older child may have been with her. So, to avoid him from having access to the murder scene and be a witness, they were placed in the one room a child couldn’t access.

ETA: I’ll leave it up, but this is too far-fetched. :rolleyes:
 
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ETA: I’ll leave it up, but this is too far-fetched. :rolleyes:
No more far-fetched than theories involving additional people on site who leave no forensic traces and have access to a secret undetectable route to and from the home. Or a plainclothes police officer following up on a 911 call alone the day after a supposed call. Or a missing will.

Your suggestion is far more plausible than all of those things. It doesn’t require an all-knowing perpetrator, only a perpetrator who knew something about the area and the family and was taking precautions.
 
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Huge stretch, I know, but Alexandra is a singer; very talented with Hebrew songs. Any chance the killer expected her to attend the choir practice? Be involved, even if not a singer in the choir? And she would have been the third victim (and she apparently has expressed that she may be a target.)

That’s why the killer waited around? He expected her to drop by? Her older child may have been with her. So, to avoid him from having access to the murder scene and be a witness, they were placed in the one room a child couldn’t access.

ETA: I’ll leave it up, but this is too far-fetched. :rolleyes:
I am guessing that Alexandra was not a member of this temple's choir. If she was, I believe that it would have been discussed at the time of the deaths. However it should not be to difficult to find out. Either a reporter, or investigator can ask Alexandra, or a choir member from that time can mention it.
 
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There was no need for the murderers to force an entry into the home.
HS may have left the door unlocked when she returned home that night after shopping. In addition, tradespeople evidently left windows open and possibly doors unlocked. Or the murderer(s) may have had a key. Or knew how to open the lockbox that the realtor left. Or the killer(s) rang the bell or knocked on the door and HS answered.
 
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There was no need for the murderers to force an entry into the home.
HS may have left the door unlocked when she returned home that night after shopping. In addition, tradespeople evidently left windows open and possibly doors unlocked. Or the murderer(s) may have had a key. Or knew how to open the lockbox that the realtor left. Or the killer(s) rang the bell or knocked on the door and HS answered.
Old saying, "locks only keep honest people out".

In the past, lock boxes tended to be easy to pilfer. New ones now are a little more challenging I have been told.

Simplest way to enter, is to knock on the door, and when answered ,force your way in.
 
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There was no need for the murderers to force an entry into the home.
HS may have left the door unlocked when she returned home that night after shopping. In addition, tradespeople evidently left windows open and possibly doors unlocked. Or the murderer(s) may have had a key. Or knew how to open the lockbox that the realtor left. Or the killer(s) rang the bell or knocked on the door and HS answered.
When every theory starts with ‘or,’ it usually means there’s no actual evidence for any of them.
 
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When every theory starts with ‘or,’ it usually means there’s no actual evidence for any of them.
“No forced entry” is cop code for “the neighbours can chill out; nobody’s gonna break in to steal your stuff and murder you.” There had been break-ins in the area and people were on edge.

Usually it calms people down. In this case it had the opposite effect. If Det. Price hadn’t tried to reassure the neighbours that there wasn’t a roaming murderer, many things might have gone differently.
 

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