CANADA Canada - Billionaire Couple Barry & Honey Sherman Murdered at Home, Toronto, 15 Dec 2017 #22

[AddyFinch]

Isn’t the hand in the documentary a fictitious representation of JS real hand?

Good question.

 

[dotr]

But more importantly only a fool would take a digital picture of a seed code. Anyone can hack a phone. It's not recommended from what I understand.

rbsbm

https://www.coindesk.com/learn/4-ways-to-stay-safe-in-crypto/

''2. Never make a digital copy of your personal crypto details​

One of the biggest mistakes both first-time and experienced crypto users make is creating digital copies of their crypto wallet passwords, seed words or backup codes. Digital copies can be anything from:

• Taking a screenshot using your laptop or desktop
• Taking a photograph using your mobile phone
• Copy and pasting the code into an email, on a notepad app or anywhere else on your device

As soon as you create a digital copy of your sensitive information, you run the risk of a hacker gaining access to it through malware, brute force attacks and other attack vectors.
The best way to safely copy and store your crypto information is either through writing it down on paper away from people and any device camera, or etching it into metal plates''

 

[FPoulet]

My question- JS claims he went to Japan to learn about cryptocurrency. Is that a thing? Why did he have to travel to do that? And if one had never been to Japan would that be one’s primary focus? It’s a long way to go for “education” that is available anywhere, including most specifically online — given that cryptocurrency’s whole premise is to be recorded digitally vs domiciled in any particular country.

This has always struck me as a bit of a ruse, including also a justification perhaps for contemporaneous large transfers to crypto accounts, since he’s “just getting started” and possibly making new and large investments.

Of course this is pure speculation. MOO. It could certainly be a coincidence.

 

[NeverPersonal]

i feel like if this wasn't a personal murder they would've been shot or something MOO

 

[newclues]

I feel certain that that call from Doug Hendler was supposed to be a conference call between B and H and DH. That is probably why Honey told Barry that he had to be home early. DH'S call coming in on Barry's cell at one minute after 9pm just seems so perfect for getting stuff done before they left for Florida.

Wasn't BS going to FL in order to start his new pet project which was that drug production lab in Miramar?

 

[newclues]

i feel like if this wasn't a personal murder they would've been shot or something MOO

There is this speculation that a gun may have been used to intimidate them to follow orders but not to kill them with.

 

[RHR]

Isn’t the hand in the documentary a fictitious representation of JS real hand?

Well, That's an excellent question!

 

[RHR]

Isn’t the hand in the documentary a fictitious representation of JS real h

Isn’t the hand in the documentary a fictitious representation of JS real hand?

Well, that's an excellent question.

 

[newclues]

Well, that's an excellent question.

Ask KD?

 

[newclues]

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Does anyone know of a link that works for the above video?

 

[dotr]

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Thanks, but I am looking for the one that is several hours long.

 

[MerlinFalcon]

Video

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Does anyone know of a link that works for the above video?

I watched it on Facebook. I believe it was on City TV's page.

 

[Lexiintoronto]

Isn’t the hand in the documentary a fictitious representation of JS real hand?

The screenshots I posted may be fuzzy and look like a real image, but they’re an illustration. (If it’s an actual photo it has been digitally enhanced to the point it doesn’t look real, imo).

The depictions used in the documentary were very realistic, especially the pool crime scene.

rbsbm

https://www.coindesk.com/learn/4-ways-to-stay-safe-in-crypto/

''2. Never make a digital copy of your personal crypto details​

One of the biggest mistakes both first-time and experienced crypto users make is creating digital copies of their crypto wallet passwords, seed words or backup codes. Digital copies can be anything from:

• Taking a screenshot using your laptop or desktop
• Taking a photograph using your mobile phone
• Copy and pasting the code into an email, on a notepad app or anywhere else on your device

As soon as you create a digital copy of your sensitive information, you run the risk of a hacker gaining access to it through malware, brute force attacks and other attack vectors.
The best way to safely copy and store your crypto information is either through writing it down on paper away from people and any device camera, or etching it into metal plates''

Maybe he used a burner phone to take that photo, one not in service?

 

[Lexiintoronto]

I was looking up the Shechtman trust lawsuit (son Noah is suing the trust for $40 million) to see if it had been settled yet. I don’t understand it completely, but it appears as of September 7th Mary is now suing her 3 children & Honey’s trustees (I’m guessing she has added those names to a counter suit, it may be all part of the same case that Noah started.) The respondents are her three children, the three trustees of Honey’s estate (AG, BK & JS) & the Office of the Children’s Lawyer.

Part of Mary’s response to Noah’s lawsuit is that Honey created and contributed to the trust, but didn’t specify that it was for the Shechtman children. Noah’s claim is that it was, and that his brother and sister both received one of the 17 properties that are part of the trust.

Respondents:

You have to have an account in order to look up current Ontario cases, so I’m not sure if this link is useful if you don’t, but this is the link to the screenshots from above: https://www.justiceservices.jus.gov.on.ca/MyAccount/screens/CaseLookup/CSLKUP002.xhtml

This is the only case I’ve heard of so far where Honey’s estate trustees are involved. I hope the CBC or KD obtains the court files and makes a report.

Another part of Noah’s claim is that the funds in the trust account were mismanaged by Mary and her husband. It sounds like the case is getting very messy, imo. I wonder how Honey might have reacted to all of this.

 

[ldlager]

Wasn't BS going to FL in order to start his new pet project which was that drug production lab in Miramar?

The Florida facility already existed and was to be expanded. But I doubt BS was personally Involved, he had executives to manage it.

 

[ldlager]

I was looking up the Shechtman trust lawsuit (son Noah is suing the trust for $40 million) to see if it had been settled yet. I don’t understand it completely, but it appears as of September 7th Mary is now suing her 3 children & Honey’s trustees (I’m guessing she has added those names to a counter suit, it may be all part of the same case that Noah started.) The respondents are her three children, the three trustees of Honey’s estate (AG, BK & JS) & the Office of the Children’s Lawyer.

Part of Mary’s response to Noah’s lawsuit is that Honey created and contributed to the trust, but didn’t specify that it was for the Shechtman children. Noah’s claim is that it was, and that his brother and sister both received one of the 17 properties that are part of the trust.


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You have to have an account in order to look up current Ontario cases, so I’m not sure if this link is useful if you don’t, but this is the link to the screenshots from above: https://www.justiceservices.jus.gov.on.ca/MyAccount/screens/CaseLookup/CSLKUP002.xhtml

This is the only case I’ve heard of so far where Honey’s estate trustees are involved. I hope the CBC or KD obtains the court files and makes a report.

Another part of Noah’s claim is that the funds in the trust account were mismanaged by Mary and her husband. It sounds like the case is getting very messy, imo. I wonder how Honey might have reacted to all of this.

Thanks Lexi. Excellent sleuthing.
MS is certainly something else!

 

[MerlinFalcon]

Thanks Lexi. Excellent sleuthing.
MS is certainly something else!

I think this makes her a little more suspicious in everything. Alex talks about JS and AP being money hungry but they aren't alone. I expect Dennis Curry will be all over this but I would prefer KD as he is really good at digging

 

[Lexiintoronto]

Thanks Lexi. Excellent sleuthing.
MS is certainly something else!

Thanks! I think I understand why Honey’s estate has been brought into it now. Honey was a co-trustee. From Ann Brocklehurst’s substack, the 2014 lawsuit against the Shechtman trust:

Honey testified that the proceeds of the fund went straight into one of Mary’s bank accounts, and Honey didn’t have access or know the details about the account activity.

Honey’s testimony starts on page 73 from this part of the court transcripts:

So Noah is now claiming that Mary misused the trust’s funds. Honey’s estate has now been named because she was a co-trustee (and either the main or sole benefactor), imo. And Mary is claiming Honey didn’t specify how the trust was to be distributed. Maybe Honey’s trustees will have to answer that, if they are able to.

This part of the Bloomberg article may be relevant to the above, imo:

“But the children ended up severing links with Shechtman, their mother’s closest confidant. Money was one of the main causes of the estrangement. Soon after the murders, according to people with knowledge of the matter and correspondence seen by Businessweek, Shechtman began claiming that Honey had intended to leave her hundreds of millions of dollars—much or even all the money Sherman had been moving to transfer to his wife. Shechtman repeated the claim over the following months and also requested other assets, including jewelry and real estate. Honey “wanted me and my children to get everything of hers,” Shechtman wrote in one email. “She knew the value of her entire estate would be minimal compared to what you and your siblings would inherit and none of you would need it financially.” (A representative for Shechtman declined to comment.)

Even if the transfer to Honey had occurred, she appears not to have had a will; none has been located. The money Shechtman said she was due was part of what the children were inheriting. Not surprisingly, they declined to give it to her.”

Mary doesn’t have reasonable grounds to sue Honey’s estate if no will was found, there’s no basis for her to claim she was entitled to anything, imo. I’m wondering if the lawsuit over the trust may become a cold war battleground between her and the Sherman trustees.

 

[FPoulet]

Apparently we need Ann B to pull the court file for us. Until we see the pleadings it is hard to determine what the case is about.

Also, from the looks of what @Lexiintoronto shared, MS is the applicant in her capacity as trustee of the Shechtman trust, not in her personal capacity. Not sure why she, as trustee, is claiming against her kids and Honey’s estate. But I’d like to see the court file to find out.