CANADA Canada - Billionaire Couple Barry & Honey Sherman Murdered @ Home - Toronto #20

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Speculation, imo, fwiw..
Every person who viewed the house has been tracked down afaik, could it be that not every single potential house buyer have not been contacted by LE because they have not yet been located?

Sorry to refer to these other cases of house fraud i posted about earlier, but this new report caught my attention in relation to the Sherman home, not necessarily because of the house takeovers but because of the imposters..

Also wondering if the house that would have been built had the Shermans not been murdered, was included in any will, if so- who would it be earmarked for?
lengthy article, rbbm,

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toro...-mortgages-without-owners-knowledge-1.6719978
John Lancaster, Nicole Brockbank, Farrah Merali · CBC News · Posted: Jan 23, 2023
''CBC Toronto has learned that a handful of organized crime groups are behind these real-estate frauds — in which at least 30 homes in the Greater Toronto Area (GTA) have either been sold or mortgaged without the real owners' knowledge. Those revelations come from a private investigation firm working for a title insurance company to try and get to the bottom of the scams, which are costing insurers millions in claims. ''

....

''So how does this actually happen? King says an organized crime group starts by looking through publicly available property records for a home without a mortgage — or a small one where there's still a lot of equity left in the property — as a target.

From there, the groups who ultimately receive the fraudulent funds use stolen IDs and hire "stand-ins" to pose as tenants to gain access to the home, and other "stand-ins" impersonate homeowners to mortgage or sell it.

"A lot of times they're petty criminals that are paid anywhere from $5,000 to $10,000 to stand-in and pose as the homeowners," said King. "The people behind the frauds do not want to be front-facing."
''The stand-ins, like the pair Toronto police were trying to identify through a press release earlier this month, are also being shared between crime groups, according to King, depending on the ethnicity of the person needed to impersonate the homeowner.
 
  • #102
Speculation, imo, fwiw..
Every person who viewed the house has been tracked down afaik, could it be that not every single potential house buyer have not been contacted by LE because they have not yet been located?

Sorry to refer to these other cases of house fraud i posted about earlier, but this new report caught my attention in relation to the Sherman home, not necessarily because of the house takeovers but because of the imposters..

Also wondering if the house that would have been built had the Shermans not been murdered, was included in any will, if so- who would it be earmarked for?
lengthy article, rbbm,

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toro...-mortgages-without-owners-knowledge-1.6719978
John Lancaster, Nicole Brockbank, Farrah Merali · CBC News · Posted: Jan 23, 2023
''CBC Toronto has learned that a handful of organized crime groups are behind these real-estate frauds — in which at least 30 homes in the Greater Toronto Area (GTA) have either been sold or mortgaged without the real owners' knowledge. Those revelations come from a private investigation firm working for a title insurance company to try and get to the bottom of the scams, which are costing insurers millions in claims. ''

....

''So how does this actually happen? King says an organized crime group starts by looking through publicly available property records for a home without a mortgage — or a small one where there's still a lot of equity left in the property — as a target.

From there, the groups who ultimately receive the fraudulent funds use stolen IDs and hire "stand-ins" to pose as tenants to gain access to the home, and other "stand-ins" impersonate homeowners to mortgage or sell it.

"A lot of times they're petty criminals that are paid anywhere from $5,000 to $10,000 to stand-in and pose as the homeowners," said King. "The people behind the frauds do not want to be front-facing."
''The stand-ins, like the pair Toronto police were trying to identify through a press release earlier this month, are also being shared between crime groups, according to King, depending on the ethnicity of the person needed to impersonate the homeowner.

Are you referring to the video / facetime showing?

I believe that all showings are documented by the agent and LE could trace down via the IP address of that "showing", Unless the facetimer masked their IP address of course.

IMO the facetime was 1 of two things, either a pre-scope of the home layout of all the rooms, entry/exits, alarm system brand and when camera turned to HS, the viewing of the or one of the mark/target(s), or an out of towner potential purchase, it could have even been the couple that were in the house at the time they were found, it is reported they were not from Toronto.

Same for any one who used the internet to view the listing, LE may have taken time to track down all those IP addresses, another reason that the case has taken investigations out of Canada and possibly North America?

If it were a criminal group like this, what motive would they have to kill them? The home was truly for sale, they could have waited until January when they were in Florida if they wanted to scam the sale somehow?
 
  • #103
Are you referring to the video / facetime showing?

I believe that all showings are documented by the agent and LE could trace down via the IP address of that "showing", Unless the facetimer masked their IP address of course.

IMO the facetime was 1 of two things, either a pre-scope of the home layout of all the rooms, entry/exits, alarm system brand and when camera turned to HS, the viewing of the or one of the mark/target(s), or an out of towner potential purchase, it could have even been the couple that were in the house at the time they were found, it is reported they were not from Toronto.

Same for any one who used the internet to view the listing, LE may have taken time to track down all those IP addresses, another reason that the case has taken investigations out of Canada and possibly North America?

If it were a criminal group like this, what motive would they have to kill them? The home was truly for sale, they could have waited until January when they were in Florida if they wanted to scam the sale somehow?
rbbm
Not necessarily there to house scam, but the idea that a varied group of imposters can be hired by organized crime to essentially do whatever the job might entail.
speculation, imo.
 
  • #104
Nice an article for a US media outlet that actually states police did not jump to any conclusions day 1.


Toronto police later said investigators never prematurely indicated the case was a murder-suicide, saying it was a misunderstanding. Authorities said they had sought to reassure the public that there was no sign that it was a break-and-enter or robbery with violence.

Six weeks after the bodies were found, Toronto police announced a review of evidence showed they were victims of a homicide, saying they believed the couple was targeted. Investigators cited the extra time needed to search the Shermans’ sprawling home and related issues for the delayed conclusion.

this link is within the above link, shocking to see the decision to demolish the home was made immediately. IMO they never tried to sell if after LE were finished with it.


Various media outlets have reported that Toronto homicide detectives are probing the deaths as a possible murder-suicide. The couple's four children, who plan to have their parents' North York home demolished once a team of private forensic investigators have had time to scour it, have soundly rejected that theory. So have close friends of the Shermans.
 
  • #105
Sure would be nice if there was some update, or progress report from the TPS.

Is there a detective still assigned to the case, working on it full time?
Have they shut down the investigation and letting the case lie dormant?
 
  • #106
Re post of very lengthy article and wondering if any of the views expressed in the article have changed since 2018?
How does the killer feel post murders upon seeing the Sherman name prominently displayed ?
Guilty, proud, resentful, or nothing, absolutely nothing?
How did it make them feel before the murders?
Speculation, imo, fwiw.

October 24, 2018 rbbm.
BY MATTHEW CAMPBELL
''In this vacuum, the theorizing about the Shermans has taken on a Murder on the Orient Express quality, with everyone a potential suspect. During more than 40 years in the generics industry, Sherman had cost his competitors billions of dollars. His fierce conflict with his cousins, the Winters, was also well-known. But more suggestive, to many, was Sherman’s affinity, if not affection, for inadvisable financial relationships.

“They’re f---ing criminals, that’s what they are,” Frank D’Angelo said into his phone. He quickly hung up. “F---ing banks. Gangsters. And they say Italians are gangsters.”
We were sitting at a corner table, backs to the wall, in an Italian restaurant at Toronto’s Ritz-Carlton hotel. D’Angelo had asked me to meet him for an early lunch to discuss his relationship with Sherman, his main financial backer for about 15 years. The two talked almost every day, and D’Angelo was among the last people outside Apotex to speak with Sherman, in a late-evening phone call the Tuesday before the bodies were discovered. It was a regular catch-up, D’Angelo recalled, entirely unremarkable in its content.''


''The Shermans retain a ghostly ubiquity in Toronto. One day while I was in town, I went to the Art Gallery of Ontario, the city’s largest art museum, to check out a much-heralded show of works by the abstract painters Joan Mitchell and Jean-Paul Riopelle. On a wall above the canvasses in the first room of the exhibition, I saw the silvery lettering: “Honey & Barry Sherman Gallery.” Later, at an event for the United Way, I spotted their names heading a roster of big-ticket donors.

Near the city’s northern boundary, a crane towered over the Sherman Campus, a vast Jewish community center undergoing extensive renovation.
The couple was laid to rest nearby, in a cemetery slotted between concrete apartment complexes and a high-voltage transmission corridor. The day I visited was bright and blustery, with a hint of winter still in the air. There was no obvious directory, and I asked a groundskeeper for help. He knew immediately where to go. The graves were in a distant section of the cemetery, so he gave me a lift on his green riding mower, past tombstones marked with names such as Schoenbach, Levy, Ritter, and Kahn. Jewish families often wait as long as a year to place stones, and the Shermans’ plots were marked only by twin plastic plates supplied by the funeral home: Barry on the left, Honey on the right. On the grass between, someone had left a few stems of white orchids.''

''It looks increasingly unlikely that anyone will be arrested for their murders. There’s little sign of momentum in either the police or private investigations; a person close to the family said recent police updates have tended to cover leads that haven’t panned out.
Sherman loomed uncommonly large in the lives of people around him: for D’Angelo, as a generous benefactor, loyal to a fault; for Winter, as an object of consuming rage; for Kay, as a partner and intimate friend. All of them, and the broader community of which Barry and Honey were so much a part, will probably have to come to terms with never knowing what happened at 50 Old Colony Rd. last December—with an ending known only to its authors. The Shermans had every reason to expect that they controlled their future, until the moment they didn’t, when the boundaries that surrounded two distinguished lives became suddenly, terrifyingly permeable.''

ETA

rbbm
''D’Angelo said he was as confounded by the Shermans’ deaths as anyone else—and that he had nothing to do with them. “Frank D’Angelo?” he said, mimicking an investigator crossing off suspects. “The worst thing that could have happened to Frank D’Angelo is Barry dying.” Sherman, he said, was “my f---ing leprechaun, my four-leaf clover.” Price, the lead detective, interviewed D’Angelo earlier this year, and D’Angelo said the questions were “typical 🤬🤬🤬🤬. I’m pretty sure he was trying to get a psychological profile about me and see if I had any reason to lie.” The detective, D’Angelo continued, “would ask the same question three or four times, moving around,” feigning surprise when his subject pointed out the repetitions. They included “the million-dollar question: ‘Who do you think did it?’ Well how the f--- do I know? You’re the cop.”
But like everyone in the Shermans’ orbit, he had his theories, which he expressed Godfather-style. “I think somebody came to make Barry an offer he couldn’t refuse, and he refused,” D’Angelo said, suggesting that someone wanted Sherman’s cooperation, his money, or both, and that Sherman wouldn’t yield. And “Honey had to die because somebody felt she would get in the way of the scratch.”

We were on to dessert, washed down with more wine—our second bottle. “Money,” he said, spitting on the floor with an audible splat. “F--- it.”
A few minutes later, we walked out of the hotel together. As we prepared to part ways, D’Angelo pulled me close. “Do the right thing for my friend,” he said. “If you don’t, I’m going to come to London and find you.”
 
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''News of the mysterious deaths of billionaire Canadian pharma giant Barry Sherman and his philanthropist wife Honey in December 2017 reverberated around the world. Five years later, with no arrests and little news from the police, their deaths remain shrouded in mystery and conspiracy theories, with too many lingering questions. Not just who killed them, but what kind of life do you have to live that when you’re found dead, there are multiple theories, including some involving your own family? That’s the question journalist Kathleen Goldhar set out to discover, in The No Good, Terribly Kind, Wonderful Lives and Tragic Deaths of Honey and Barry Sherman, as she explores who the Shermans really were and why too much money might have been what killed them in the end.
Updated: Feb. 3, 2023''
 
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''News of the mysterious deaths of billionaire Canadian pharma giant Barry Sherman and his philanthropist wife Honey in December 2017 reverberated around the world. Five years later, with no arrests and little news from the police, their deaths remain shrouded in mystery and conspiracy theories, with too many lingering questions. Not just who killed them, but what kind of life do you have to live that when you’re found dead, there are multiple theories, including some involving your own family? That’s the question journalist Kathleen Goldhar set out to discover, in The No Good, Terribly Kind, Wonderful Lives and Tragic Deaths of Honey and Barry Sherman, as she explores who the Shermans really were and why too much money might have been what killed them in the end.
Updated: Feb. 3, 2023''
Not sure if this was easy for everyone else to find, but I wondered - where's the rest of it - ... and found on another site that it says "eight episodes released weekly, starting February 20".. looking forward to it, thanks for posting dotr!

 
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    • FEB 3, 2023
    Introducing Suspicion Season 2, The Billionaire Murders: The hunt for the killers of Honey and Barry Sherman

    Introducing Suspicion Season 2, The Billionaire Murders: The hunt for the killers of Honey and Barry Sherman​

    Launching Feb. 10, Season 2 of “Suspicion” brings “The Billionaire Murders: The hunt for the killers of Honey and Barry Sherman,” a podcast probing the strange case of the famous Toronto couple who were found strangled in their north Toronto home in 2017. Barry Sherman was the multibillionaire founder of Canadian pharmaceutical company Apotex and a well-known philanthropist. Honey was a tireless fundraiser involved in charity boards and committees. Hosted by the Star’s award-winning chief investigative reporter Kevin Donovan, the series will feature eight original episodes with friends and family who knew the Shermans best and reveals the inside story of the hunt for the killers. For five years, Donovan covered the case for the Star, fought court battles to access documents on the police investigation and the Sherman estate, and wrote a book about it. This podcast lets you hear directly from him and his sources. Toronto Star subscribers will also get exclusive early access to behind-the-scenes bonus episodes.

    • FEB 7, 2023
    Early excerpt: Episode 1, The Inside Man

    Early excerpt: Episode 1, The Inside Man​

    This is an early excerpt from The Billionaire Murders: The hunt for the killers of Honey and Barry Sherman, episode 1, The Inside Man. The full episode drops Friday, February 10. Suspicion is the Toronto Star’s investigative true crime podcast. Season 2 brings “The Billionaire Murders: The hunt for the killers of Honey and Barry Sherman,” a podcast probing the strange case of the famous Toronto couple who were found strangled in their north Toronto home in 2017. For five years, the Star’s chief investigative reporter Kevin Donovan has covered the case, fought court battles to access documents on the police investigation and the Shermans and their estate, and wrote a book about it. This podcast lets you hear directly from Donovan and his sources, those who worked on the case and friends and family of Honey and Barry Sherman''.
 
  • #111
    • FEB 3, 2023
    • Introducing Suspicion Season 2, The Billionaire Murders: The hunt for the killers of Honey and Barry Sherman

    Introducing Suspicion Season 2, The Billionaire Murders: The hunt for the killers of Honey and Barry Sherman​

    Launching Feb. 10, Season 2 of “Suspicion” brings “The Billionaire Murders: The hunt for the killers of Honey and Barry Sherman,” a podcast probing the strange case of the famous Toronto couple who were found strangled in their north Toronto home in 2017. Barry Sherman was the multibillionaire founder of Canadian pharmaceutical company Apotex and a well-known philanthropist. Honey was a tireless fundraiser involved in charity boards and committees. Hosted by the Star’s award-winning chief investigative reporter Kevin Donovan, the series will feature eight original episodes with friends and family who knew the Shermans best and reveals the inside story of the hunt for the killers. For five years, Donovan covered the case for the Star, fought court battles to access documents on the police investigation and the Sherman estate, and wrote a book about it. This podcast lets you hear directly from him and his sources. Toronto Star subscribers will also get exclusive early access to behind-the-scenes bonus episodes.

    • FEB 7, 2023
    • Early excerpt: Episode 1, The Inside Man

    Early excerpt: Episode 1, The Inside Man​

    This is an early excerpt from The Billionaire Murders: The hunt for the killers of Honey and Barry Sherman, episode 1, The Inside Man. The full episode drops Friday, February 10. Suspicion is the Toronto Star’s investigative true crime podcast. Season 2 brings “The Billionaire Murders: The hunt for the killers of Honey and Barry Sherman,” a podcast probing the strange case of the famous Toronto couple who were found strangled in their north Toronto home in 2017. For five years, the Star’s chief investigative reporter Kevin Donovan has covered the case, fought court battles to access documents on the police investigation and the Shermans and their estate, and wrote a book about it. This podcast lets you hear directly from Donovan and his sources, those who worked on the case and friends and family of Honey and Barry Sherman''.

Thank you for posting this.

I take it that he is the ‘urban explorer’ that trespassed into the home (?) (ETA: it may be one of the Greenspan team members, I don’t know.)…Is it just me, or does the guy sound very familiar?
 
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  • #112
Thank you for posting this.

I take it that he is the ‘urban explorer’ that trespassed into the home (?) (ETA: it may be one of the Greenspan team members, I don’t know.)…Is it just me, or does the guy sound very familiar?
I'm not sure if he is the 'actual' urban explorer, or just a voice to portray the urban explorer, I don't think it mentioned? But when I was listening, I had to do a double-take, because it sounded to me a bit like KW.... but of course, it wasn't.
 
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    • FEB 3, 2023
      Introducing Suspicion Season 2, The Billionaire Murders: The hunt for the killers of Honey and Barry Sherman

    Introducing Suspicion Season 2, The Billionaire Murders: The hunt for the killers of Honey and Barry Sherman​

    Launching Feb. 10, Season 2 of “Suspicion” brings “The Billionaire Murders: The hunt for the killers of Honey and Barry Sherman,” a podcast probing the strange case of the famous Toronto couple who were found strangled in their north Toronto home in 2017. Barry Sherman was the multibillionaire founder of Canadian pharmaceutical company Apotex and a well-known philanthropist. Honey was a tireless fundraiser involved in charity boards and committees. Hosted by the Star’s award-winning chief investigative reporter Kevin Donovan, the series will feature eight original episodes with friends and family who knew the Shermans best and reveals the inside story of the hunt for the killers. For five years, Donovan covered the case for the Star, fought court battles to access documents on the police investigation and the Sherman estate, and wrote a book about it. This podcast lets you hear directly from him and his sources. Toronto Star subscribers will also get exclusive early access to behind-the-scenes bonus episodes.

    • FEB 7, 2023
      Early excerpt: Episode 1, The Inside Man

    Early excerpt: Episode 1, The Inside Man​

    This is an early excerpt from The Billionaire Murders: The hunt for the killers of Honey and Barry Sherman, episode 1, The Inside Man. The full episode drops Friday, February 10. Suspicion is the Toronto Star’s investigative true crime podcast. Season 2 brings “The Billionaire Murders: The hunt for the killers of Honey and Barry Sherman,” a podcast probing the strange case of the famous Toronto couple who were found strangled in their north Toronto home in 2017. For five years, the Star’s chief investigative reporter Kevin Donovan has covered the case, fought court battles to access documents on the police investigation and the Shermans and their estate, and wrote a book about it. This podcast lets you hear directly from Donovan and his sources, those who worked on the case and friends and family of Honey and Barry Sherman''.
Who is the inside man?
 
  • #114
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Who is the inside man?
What he says on the podcast matches the ‘urban explorer’ that trespassed on the Sherman property before it was torn down.

“I figured a lot of stuff would have been taken out by Toronto Police, sent to an auction house or saved by family members, but that wasn’t really the case,” the man recalls. “There was stuff everywhere, furniture, clothes, artwork, books, personal letters, memos, photos of the deceased, the works. Pretty much every room I stepped into had me saying ‘jesus f--- christ’ out loud to myself, wondering what I was getting myself into.”

Like Deug suggested above it may be a voice actor, but he sounds familiar to me.
 
  • #115
Noting BS's glasses & footwear included in this crime scene depiction below.
Feb 10 2023
Barry Sherman had $372 in his wallet when he died. Honey Sherman’s wallet was stuffed with $7,500, possibly from a visit to an ATM shortly before she was killed.

Sources say cash discovered at the crime scene explains why a homicide detective went to great lengths to calm fears in the neighbourhood shortly after the bodies were found. It was unlikely their deaths were a break-in gone wrong.

That’s when detectives went down the murder-suicide theory route, which lasted until the Toronto Star published results of second autopsies describing the deaths as a double homicide.

Today, the Toronto Star launches a new investigative podcast, the Billionaire Murders, the hunt for the killers of Honey and Barry Sherman.

This multi-part series, with exclusive content available early for Star subscribers, takes a deep look at one of the most shocking unsolved crimes in Canadian history. Over the past five years, the Star has interviewed friends and family; unsealed thousands of search warrant documents and estate files through court challenges; and obtained hundreds of email conversations between the Shermans and others. The case remains unsolved, with Toronto homicide detectives now looking for evidence in three countries.''
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''TODAY · 27 MIN

S2 The Billionaire Murders | E1 The Man on the Inside​

Suspicion | The Billionaire Murders: The hunt for the killers of Honey and Barry Sherman''​

 
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What he says on the podcast matches the ‘urban explorer’ that trespassed on the Sherman property before it was torn down.

“I figured a lot of stuff would have been taken out by Toronto Police, sent to an auction house or saved by family members, but that wasn’t really the case,” the man recalls. “There was stuff everywhere, furniture, clothes, artwork, books, personal letters, memos, photos of the deceased, the works. Pretty much every room I stepped into had me saying ‘jesus f--- christ’ out loud to myself, wondering what I was getting myself into.”

Like Deug suggested above it may be a voice actor, but he sounds familiar to me.
The podcast says it is a voice actor
 
  • #117
Noting BS's glasses & footwear included in this crime scene depiction below.
Feb 10 2023
Barry Sherman had $372 in his wallet when he died. Honey Sherman’s wallet was stuffed with $7,500, possibly from a visit to an ATM shortly before she was killed.

Sources say cash discovered at the crime scene explains why a homicide detective went to great lengths to calm fears in the neighbourhood shortly after the bodies were found. It was unlikely their deaths were a break-in gone wrong.

That’s when detectives went down the murder-suicide theory route, which lasted until the Toronto Star published results of second autopsies describing the deaths as a double homicide.

Today, the Toronto Star launches a new investigative podcast, the Billionaire Murders, the hunt for the killers of Honey and Barry Sherman.

This multi-part series, with exclusive content available early for Star subscribers, takes a deep look at one of the most shocking unsolved crimes in Canadian history. Over the past five years, the Star has interviewed friends and family; unsealed thousands of search warrant documents and estate files through court challenges; and obtained hundreds of email conversations between the Shermans and others. The case remains unsolved, with Toronto homicide detectives now looking for evidence in three countries.''
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I am not sure if this is a more detailed picture or just a close up and I can better see the details from the original published TStar story.

Things I see now, HS shoes are slippers with open heel - those drag marks cannot be from her shoes. IMO BS was placed in position first, then HS.

looking at this drawing, IMO HS came home, removed coat and outdoor footwear before being accosted and restrained. This could have been as soon as she arrived home or 30 minutes after arriving home? IMO she was not killed immediately, if she was why tie/bound her hands together? Same for BS why tie/bound his hands together, IMO to gain control and a need for them to be alive for what I am not sure - to be told why they are being murdered? - Looking for something?
 
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I don’t know if KD just used a nickname or he was making a reference to the movie ‘Inside Man’. It’s about a bank robbery that includes the theft of items that link the bank founder to Jewish valuables stolen by Nazis during WWII.

“When Arthur Case, chairman of the board of directors and the bank founder, learns about the holdup, he hires "fixer" Madeleine White to try and protect the contents of his safe deposit box within the bank. Russell allows her to enter the bank and inspect the box's contents, which include documents from Nazi Germany.

Russell implies that Case started his bank with Nazi money he received for unspecified services, resulting in many Jews dying during World War II. White tells him that Case will pay him a substantial sum if he destroys the box's contents.”


I mention this because a few themes in the movie correspond with some theories of the case, imo. One plot line was that the robbers didn’t appear to take anything, but only the bank’s founder knows that they took most of the contents of his personal unlisted safety deposit box.
 
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I don’t know if KD just used a nickname or he was making a reference to the movie ‘Inside Man’. It’s about a bank robbery that includes the theft of items that link the bank founder to Jewish valuables stolen by Nazis during WWII.

“When Arthur Case, chairman of the board of directors and the bank founder, learns about the holdup, he hires "fixer" Madeleine White to try and protect the contents of his safe deposit box within the bank. Russell allows her to enter the bank and inspect the box's contents, which include documents from Nazi Germany.

Russell implies that Case started his bank with Nazi money he received for unspecified services, resulting in many Jews dying during World War II. White tells him that Case will pay him a substantial sum if he destroys the box's contents.”


I mention this because a few themes in the movie correspond with some theories of the case, imo. One plot line was that the robbers didn’t appear to take anything, but only the bank’s founder knows that they took most of the contents of his personal unlisted safety deposit box.
Very interesting !

secret agent
nounspy
 
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I am not sure if this is a more detailed picture or just a close up and I can better see the details from the original published TStar story.

Things I see now, HS shoes are slippers with open heel - those drag marks cannot be from her shoes. IMO BS was placed in position first, then HS.

looking at this drawing, IMO HS came home, removed coat and outdoor footwear before being accosted and restrained. This could have been as soon as she arrived home or 30 minutes after arriving home? IMO she was not killed immediately, if she was why tie/bound her hands together? Same for BS why tie/bound his hands together, IMO to gain control and a need for them to be alive for what I am not sure - to be told why they are being murdered? - Looking for something?
But there is no indication that the shoes HS was wearing in this picture are the same shoes she was wearing when murdered?
 
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