Canada - CB, 3, may be in Monteregie, last seen 11am near Newman Blvd, LaSalle borough, Montreal QC, 14 Jun 2025

[chopper.wife]

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If you are referring to my original post, I did not imply that family was responsible in anyway. I am saying that after the fact, family often blame themselves. Second guess themselves.

I appreciate your clarification. I agree that families often second-guess themselves after something terrible happens, and it’s such a painful part of grief and trauma.

I only raised the issue because, to readers (myself included), your original post might have inadvertently implied that if only someone had made a report, something could have been done, which can read as a subtle suggestion that perhaps no report was made. I know that wasn’t your intention, but I’ve seen that kind of wording unintentionally lead to finger-pointing, especially online. I'd just hate for any family member to feel like this is their fault.

The reality is, even if a report was made, as we’ve discussed, DPJ may not have acted (even to do a mental health assessment on RT) unless the mother’s symptoms were clearly interfering with her caregiving. That’s part of what makes this whole situation so heartbreaking the gaps in the system, not just individual actions or inactions.

I think we're actually on the same page, just coming at it from slightly different angles!

 

[swanniee11]

Is it me or did the mom describe the clothing she went missing in the same as the outfit in the TT?

 

[swanniee11]

Mother of missing Quebec toddler charged, behind bars as search for 3-year-old continues | Globalnews.ca

Rachel-Ella Todd, 34, has been charged with one count of unlawful abandonment of a child after her daughter, Claire Bell, was reported missing Sunday.

globalnews.ca

She is described as three feet tall, has brown hair and brown eyes and was last seen wearing a white long-sleeve shirt with pink on the collar and grey pants.

 

[chopper.wife]

Also, I'm not sure how it works in Canada, but in the US family court is a different system from child protective services. You can have an allegation of child abuse/neglect substantiated against you that doesn't rise to the level where CPS will take your child into the custody of the state. At that point if you're the ex you have to go back to family court and try to use the CPS finding to get a judge to change the custody order. A lot of people don't know that and think they'll automatically get full custody if CPS rules against their ex.

That’s absolutely right and it’s the same in Canada. Child protective services (like DPJ in Quebec) operate separately from family court, even though their involvement can influence custody. A child protection investigation might find a concern (e.g., due to a parent’s mental health), but if the risk isn't high enough to warrant removal or protective measures, they often won’t take further action. In that case, it’s up to the other parent (or family members) to go to family court to request a change in custody or supervised access, which can be a long and difficult legal process, especially without clear documentation of harm.

So it’s very possible for there to be recognized concerns that still don’t lead to intervention; something that can be frustrating and disheartening for families trying to protect a child. I am really hoping the outcome is that the child was dropped somewhere and somehow still alive, but my gut is telling me the mom had a major breakdown and more occurred than that.

 

[GinaSeikwa]

All I am saying is that we can’t imply that family is responsible for this by saying DPJ would have intervened and helped if they had made a report, since we have no idea whether they did or not. I am a psychologist working in Canada, while it’s nice to think DPJ would get involved more, from my experience, it takes a long time (mom seems to have gone downhill only since December/January of this year) as they are overwhelmed and specific criteria need to be met which differ provincially. Not saying you’re wrong about other provinces or cases where services have gotten involved, just that Quebec has very different regulations and that mom may have been well “enough” for DPJ to just make note of it and wait for an escalation or for a clearer instance of possible harm befalling the child

Being in Quebec myself I agree with all of this. People outside of Quebec have no idea how dire the lack of services are in this province.
Also the lack of English services is a huge issue here.
The family is English speaking and as another Anglo Quebecer I can attest that there is a glaring lack of services overall but access to English speaking professionals is also an issue.
Although they are in Montreal so there is probably more than in the regions.
But once again there is also a split between English and French resources and the DPG might refer to Batshaw (the English language resource) and Batshaw is severely lacking.
Not to mention the DPJ has an awful reputation for its group homes and pimping and sex trafficking. Many people are wary to contact them in the first place

Quebec is its in beast. And people not from here don’t get it and it’s not as easy as picking up a phone and “advising Children’s services”. It does not work like that here

 

[Snoop Sister]

Being in Quebec myself I agree with all of this. People outside of Quebec have no idea how dire the lack of services are in this province.
Also the lack of English services is a huge issue here.
The family is English speaking and as another Anglo Quebecer I can attest that there is a glaring lack of services overall but access to English speaking professionals is also an issue.
Although they are in Montreal so there is probably more than in the regions.
But once again there is also a split between English and French resources and the DPG might refer to Batshaw (the English language resource) and Batshaw is severely lacking.
Not to mention the DPJ has an awful reputation for its group homes and pimping and sex trafficking. Many people are wary to contact them in the first place

Quebec is its in beast. And people not from here don’t get it and it’s not as easy as picking up a phone and “advising Children’s services”. It does not work like that here

Good to know. I was aware that the services were more limited for anglophones in Quebec, I did not know to the extent. As I am not from Quebec, I value your input regarding DPG. Thanks for enlightening me as it seems it is much easier to get assistance in other provinces…at least the province I am from.

 

[rogue ant]

Is it me or did the mom describe the clothing she went missing in the same as the outfit in the TT?
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I don't have an answer to your question but the hashtags are a bit disjointed. #motherhood #threat #energywork #narcissist #magic

 

[tlcya]

Is it me or did the mom describe the clothing she went missing in the same as the outfit in the TT?
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that would stand to reason as the tiktok in question was filmed mere hours before CB was reportedly last seen.

Personally, I think the time of this tiktok is probably what LE are using as their last seen alive time for their timeline which has now shifted to last seen Sunday morning around 9:45am

 

[zucchinibread]

that would stand to reason as the tiktok in question was filmed mere hours before CB was reportedly last seen.

Personally, I think the time of this tiktok is probably what LE are using as their last seen alive time for their timeline which has now shifted to last seen Sunday morning around 9:45am

I highly doubt LE would use the time of a posted Tiktok as a last seen alive time because it theoretically could have been taken at anytime and just posted that morning.

 

[tlcya]

I highly doubt LE would use the time of a posted Tiktok as a last seen alive time because it theoretically could have been taken at anytime and just posted that morning.

they have her phone. they can see when the video was filmed/uploaded, etc. JMO

 

[Snoop Sister]

that would stand to reason as the tiktok in question was filmed mere hours before CB was reportedly last seen.

Personally, I think the time of this tiktok is probably what LE are using as their last seen alive time for their timeline which has now shifted to last seen Sunday morning around 9:45am

I believe CBC had the right time from the beginning ie 9:45. Correct me if I am wrong. I do no think the police could or would use a TikTok post for last seen alive…too many questionable variables ie time of posts etc with TikTok.

 

[Unalienable Rights]

Mom of missing 3-year-old Montreal girl charged with child abandonment as search continues

The mother of a three-year-old girl missing since Sunday from Montreal's LaSalle borough has been arrested and charged with one count of child abandonment.

www.ctvnews.ca

Recycling and garbage collections in Vaudreuil-Dorion, Vaudreuil-Soulanges, Saint-Lazare and Hudson have been paused to allow police to conduct their searches.

“We want to find the girl quickly,” said Drolet, adding that the search perimeter is large, complicating efforts. “We are putting many resources into finding the girl as soon as possible.”

 

[Snoop Sister]

Interesting, the crown has not requested a psych evaluation on the mom.
SBM BBM

“Prévost-Gravel confirmed Todd has no priors, and a request has not been made for her to undergo a psychological evaluation”

Mom of missing 3-year-old Montreal girl charged with child abandonment as search continues

The mother of a three-year-old girl missing since Sunday from Montreal's LaSalle borough has been arrested and charged with one count of child abandonment.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[tlcya]

I believe CBC had the right time from the beginning ie 9:45. Correct me if I am wrong. I do no think the police could or would use a TikTok post for last seen alive…too many questionable variables ie time of posts etc with TikTok.

CTV (which has now also been updated/revised to say 9:45 but once said 11) and missingpeople.ca which still says 11 and Montreal city news which once said 11 but has now also been updated to 9:45.

My point is, initial reports said 11. then later reports corrected or clarified. You may be right and the time as far as LE is concerned has always been 9:45 but was just being misreported by multiple agencies for unknown reasons.

But I could also be right and the timeline tightened up as more info became available. JS Time will tell.

 

[chopper.wife]

Interesting, the crown has not requested a psych evaluation on the mom.
SBM BBM

“Prévost-Gravel confirmed Todd has no priors, and a request has not been made for her to undergo a psychological evaluation”

Mom of missing 3-year-old Montreal girl charged with child abandonment as search continues

The mother of a three-year-old girl missing since Sunday from Montreal's LaSalle borough has been arrested and charged with one count of child abandonment.

www.ctvnews.ca

Very interesting, especially given those TikTok posts. I wonder if they are waiting for additional federal charges before requesting one... or if there will be a request for such evaluation forthcoming soon. Either way, I really do hope someone evaluates her because something is up with her mental health

 

[tlcya]

I suspect her defense attorney will be requesting an evaluation soon enough. No need for authorities to request one. JMO

 

[Snoop Sister]

CTV (which has now also been updated/revised to say 9:45 but once said 11) and missingpeople.ca which still says 11 and Montreal city news which once said 11 but has now also been updated to 9:45.

My point is, initial reports said 11. then later reports corrected or clarified. You may be right and the time as far as LE is concerned has always been 9:45 but was just being misreported by multiple agencies for unknown reasons.

But I could also be right and the timeline tightened up as more info became available. JS Time will tell.

Yes re misreports…just like it was initially reported that she went missing on Saturday as opposed to Sunday by journalists.

 

[iQuill]

oh ...this.is.so.sad
tiny little girl ... and her tiny little dog ... breaks my heart
moo

 

[otto]

Very interesting, especially given those TikTok posts. I wonder if they are waiting for additional federal charges before requesting one... or if there will be a request for such evaluation forthcoming soon. Either way, I really do hope someone evaluates her because something is up with her mental health

There may be nothing wrong with her mental health beyond being upset about broken relationships and single parenting. Leaving the apartment through a fire exit where there is no CCTV, and leaving digital devices at home, sounds rather planned - especially since she took the dog with her. The dog would make the child feel more comfortable, but I bet the dog was normally left at home when they went out.

Running into a business and claiming that she misplaced her child may be staging/feigning to avoid prosecution.

 

[RandyMcDonald]

oh ...this.is.so.sad
tiny little girl ... and her tiny little dog ... breaks my heart
moo

It is so sad. CB deserves so much better.