Found Deceased Canada - Dan Archbald, 37, & Ryan Daley, 43, Ucluelet, Bc, 16 May 2018

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RBBM

Certainly not on Dan and Ryan’s Find FB page, but I noticed many others are expressing similar thoughts elsewhere.

Unless there is more than one Find Dan & Ryan page, that is most definitely where I saw possibly relevant questions (including “why Ucluelet”) being shot down by admin (and others).

The (possibly drug) smuggling route is in the back of my mind, but far too speculative for me at the moment.
 
  • #42
Ok, Did they just buy the boat per your article.... OR
"Dan's boat had been docked down there and needed to be moved, so Ryan offered to go down and help him sail it back," said Ryan Daley's sister Lauren Glynn from Toronto.

Surveillance video from Ucluelet shows last movements of missing men

that makes it sound like he didn't just purchase it!! Something smells fishy and it's not the ocean.

It’s certainly confusing and I too have noted that discrepancy (amongst others).
 
  • #43
It’s certainly confusing and I too have noted that discrepancy (amongst others).

Oh thank goodness, I read everything and I'm now more confused then when I started. Thanks for verifying I haven't lost all my marbles yet.
 
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Oh thank goodness, I read everything and I'm now more confused then when I started. Thanks for verifying I haven't lost all my marbles yet.

You haven’t :)! (Or if you have, so have I!!). I think it’s possible that some of the discrepancies come from having people from two different families commenting, some of whom may not have all the details directly, or may have heard them second or third hand.
 
  • #45
I agree about the hitchhiking when they obviously had money. Also if they were arrested for drugs, would the family be able to find that out?
 
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WA - Wa - Jean-marc Faubert, 28, Burlington, 25 May 2018

a 4th missing from that area all around the same time... I can't find a lot of other people missing from that area...I know someone was local, is this out of the ordinary, or has the spring weather just brought more people out?
 
  • #47
A couple of observations:

As far as mooring in Ucluelet, I'm no expert but I don't think it's easy or affordable to find short-term moorage around Victoria/Port Renfrew, you generally need to take an annual lease and maybe that wasn't in their plans.

Secondly, boats are much cheaper to purchase in the tropics than up in Canada. There's always people down there who for health or other reasons abandon their cruising lifestyle and need to sell. They could have been bringing the boat up to Canada to sell for a profit.

We have no reason to suspect them of smuggling, but if they did, they'd have had to drop stuff off somewhere. Customs would have searched the boat and their luggage very thoroughly.

Also to add, the 3 days would have involved getting customs/ insurance/licencing paperwork, plus packing up all the stuff they'd had on board for the long sailing trip, cleaning the boat etc.
 
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A couple of observations:

As far as mooring in Ucluelet, I'm no expert but I don't think it's easy or affordable to find short-term moorage around Victoria/Port Renfrew, you generally need to take an annual lease and maybe that wasn't in their plans.

Secondly, boats are much cheaper to purchase in the tropics than up in Canada. There's always people down there who for health or other reasons abandon their cruising lifestyle and need to sell. They could have been bringing the boat up to Canada to sell for a profit.

We have no reason to suspect them of smuggling, but if they did, they'd have had to drop stuff off somewhere. Customs would have searched the boat and their luggage very thoroughly.

Also to add, the 3 days would have involved getting customs/ insurance/licencing paperwork, plus packing up all the stuff they'd had on board for the long sailing trip, cleaning the boat etc.

Thanks for this perspective Satchie! You made some great points.
 
  • #50
There was a surf convention in Tofino the weekend of the 18th May. I wonder if they might have headed there and/or if family have checked that out.
 
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WA - Wa - Jean-marc Faubert, 28, Burlington, 25 May 2018

a 4th missing from that area all around the same time... I can't find a lot of other people missing from that area...I know someone was local, is this out of the ordinary, or has the spring weather just brought more people out?
There are 12 Missing Vancouver Island people if you google....some parallels, enough to get concerned for my sons who grew up in Port Hardy, (now live in Victoria) and camp / fish / cabin 2,3 weekends a month. They have agreed to hold off for at least a bit.
Gallery: 12 missing persons cases on Vancouver Island
 
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I agree about the hitchhiking when they obviously had money. Also if they were arrested for drugs, would the family be able to find that out?

The hitchhiking really doesn’t raise any flags for me, other than the huge (heavy) amount of baggage they had. Also, I’m not sure that they did hitch; I think it’s more likely that they found a rideshare/were offered a lift somewhere, possibly from someone moored at the same harbour...

Considering that the RCMP are actively working the case and that they have called in SAR, I think arrested for anything is a non-starter as a reason for them being missing!
 
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Someone somewhere posted that moorage is cheaper at Ucluelet...lol

Snipped from the link above...
...A friend of Archbald, Paul Watt, said the pair had started a business and were importing a boat from Panama as part of their new charter service.

ETA: note the name written on the boat (Astral Blue) says VANCOUVER, CANADA below it.
 
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ETA: note the name written on the boat (Astral Blue) says VANCOUVER, CANADA below it.

This is not a red flag for me either. @Satchie mostly covered this in an earlier post.

I seriously think anything to do with the boat is a red herring, for the moment. The only thing that makes me “twitch” is not knowing whether RCMP searched it after the missing report, before friends searched it.
 
  • #56
Just an observation re: their business venture, boat name/homebase...carry on.
 
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Can you explain what you mean?
I’m not the OP, but Astral Blue can be a reference to a type of weed. And to psychedelic “experiences”. It’s also the name of a band.
 
  • #60
So, I am unclear
Was the boat purchased in Panama or purchased in Canada and moored in Panama?
 

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