Found Deceased Canada - Dan Archbald, 37, & Ryan Daley, 43, Ucluelet, Bc, 16 May 2018

[Sjm_qc]

So, I am unclear
Was the boat purchased in Panama or purchased in Canada and moored in Panama?

We don’t know and I’m not (YET) sure it’s relevant. It doesn’t really matter where it was purchased, IMO.

What we do know according to friends/family/MSM is that Dan & Ryan sailed the boat from Panama to Ucluelet arriving 5/13. They left Ucluelet on land 5/16, and haven’t been seen since.

The boat is still moored in Ucluelet.

 

[Dushi]

We don’t know and I’m not (YET) sure it’s relevant. It doesn’t really matter where it was purchased, IMO.

What we do know according to friends/family/MSM is that Dan & Ryan sailed the boat from Panama to Ucluelet arriving 5/13. They left Ucluelet on land 5/16, and haven’t been seen since.

The boat is still moored in Ucluelet.

Well it may or may not be relevant but I am curious about Vancouver, Canada being painted on it if the boat originated in Panama.

 

[Sjm_qc]

Well it may or may not be relevant but I am curious about Vancouver, Canada being painted on it if the boat originated in Panama.

The boat didn’t necessarily originate in Panama. That’s where they picked it up/sailed from.

There are multiple simple & innocuous reasons why it says Van on the stern. The simplest is that it was a Van Canada registered boat, either already belonging to the missing guys (or one of them), or to whoever they (or one of them) bought it from.

 

[tarabull]

Ryan's sister speaks at the 50 second mark in the video at this link

Surveillance video from Ucluelet shows last movements of missing men

She says Dan's boat had been docked down there and needed to be moved FWIW

 

[Tweetybird70]

There's not much on these 2 missing men, it came across my facebook and I only found this one article.

"Ryan’s dad Terry Daley told the Westerly News the two men had arrived in Ucluelet on May 13 after an eight-week sailing trip from Panama and that security camera footage shows both Dan and Ryan leaving the Ucluelet dock on foot on May 16 around 1:34 p.m."

https://www.westerlynews.ca/news/friends-and-family-search-for-two-men-last-seen-in-ucluelet/

I find it kind of odd that one of the missing men is wearing flip flops

 

[Tweetybird70]

I find it kind of odd that one of the missing men is wearing flip flops

It’s my best guess they got into a vehicle at Marina with that footwear

 

[tarabull]

Since it has been report Ryan called an XGF for a lift and she said no, perhaps he called another or perhaps a friend or not an X, someone who said yes.

 

[inmyhumbleopinion]

Since it has been report Ryan called an XGF for a lift and she said no, perhaps he called another or perhaps a friend or not an X, someone who said yes.

I find this likely also.

However, wouldn’t this person come forward, especially if s/he is already acquainted/friends with Dan and Ryan and/or is a local?

And if they were in an accident and this person is also missing, would s/he have been reported missing by now?

Some of the possibilities I can think of are this person was not well known to Dan and Ryan, the person isn’t a local and more or less a transient-type and thus isn’t aware that the men are missing.

Also, if a transient-type, family and friends are used to not hearing from the person on a regular basis and thus are not worried him/her wellbeing quite yet.

 

[Sjm_qc]

Some of the possibilities I can think of are this person was not well known to Dan and Ryan, the person isn’t a local and more or less a transient-type and thus isn’t aware that the men are missing.

Also, if a transient-type, family and friends are used to not hearing from the person on a regular basis and thus are not worried him/her wellbeing quite yet.

This is on the lines of what I’m thinking. It could be someone not previously known to them who also has a boat in the same harbour and offered them a lift out of Ucluelet to... somewhere along the way they wanted to go.

I also agree that it’s quite possible that such a person could easily be unaware that they are now missing, I know a fair few “travelling” types (a family member is one*) and often they aren’t into SM, checking the news etc.

What I don’t understand, and which gives me pause for thought in this case, is that if nothing nefarious has happened, why Dan who has young children would be out of contact for so long . I could see a single guy not bothering/thinking about worrying family but not someone with children. And not after already being away for ~8 weeks.

*OT: We eventually persuaded said family member to check-in at least once a month, even if it was just to say “I’m alive” & give location/next approximate destination. This after a couple of “is he missing, do we report him missing, to whom do we report him missing, etc?” scares.

 

[neennerd]

I mean there's a bus from Ukee/Tofino to Victoria, why wouldn't they take that? Sounds way more reasonable than hauling all that gear, I guess common sense isn't so common?

 

[neennerd]

Family just updated that there isn't anything to update.

FIND DAN and RYAN

 

[Aescwynn]

Family just updated that there isn't anything to update.

FIND DAN and RYAN

Those kinds of updates serve a good purpose, though, by keeping the word out.

 

[tarabull]

Wondering how long Dan & Ryan knew each other??? Like, were they life long friends or friends later in life or what???

...Where the hello are they???

ETA: It is most concerning IMHO they began this new business venture and now they are missing... MOO

 

[neennerd]

Those kinds of updates serve a good purpose, though, by keeping the word out.

100%!!!

 

[neennerd]

Wondering how long Dan & Ryan knew each other??? Like, were they life long friends or friends later in life or what???

...Where the hello are they???

ETA: It is most concerning IMHO they began this new business venture and now they are missing... MOO

What is the business? Something to do with the boat? Sorry just haven't heard anything about a new business for these guys!

 

[Sjm_qc]

What is the business? Something to do with the boat? Sorry just haven't heard anything about a new business for these guys!

‘You feel both hope and sadness’: Search underway for missing men last seen in Ucluelet - BC | Globalnews.ca

 

[Stunned]

I'm beyond perplexed, maybe it's a regional thing.. But this article Surveillance video from Ucluelet shows last movements of missing men
says they had to go to Panama to pick up Dan's yacht the Astral Blue.... But they then hitch hiked???

I've honestly never met someone who has a yacht docked in a foreign country that has to go get it and can afford the trip down to get the yacht, sailing home, and then hitch hikes the remainder of the journey back home... Why in the world would you hitch hike if you can afford a yacht, travel and not working for 6 weeks.. Am I being too American to understand? Is this a thing?

Nope. Not. At. All.

 

[jmcgladr]

I mean there's a bus from Ukee/Tofino to Victoria, why wouldn't they take that? Sounds way more reasonable than hauling all that gear, I guess common sense isn't so common?

If they wanted to go to the cabin in Jordan River that Daley owns (as family supposed they might be headed) it would be a circular and roundabout route to go to Victoria first. More direct to take the logging roads from Ucluelet to Jordan River (in which case they’d need to have a vehicle or hitchhike).

 

[jmcgladr]

Nope. Not. At. All.

It could be just as simple as they had flown out of a different port and didn’t have a vehicle available to them in Ucluelet. And Canadians, especially in smaller towns, tend to be trusting of other people. As strong young men and seasoned travellers, there’s no reason they’d think twice about hitchhiking. It’s not a high crime area. They may have just seen hitching a ride as the easiest way to get where they wanted to go, in the shortest time. Even if, financially, they didn’t have to hitchhike.

 

[Sjm_qc]

I think a rideshare, or a lift offered from the harbour by someone they knew or met in Ucluelet is possible, but as I’ve said before, hitch hiking really doesn’t sound odd to me, except for the huge bags they had.

What is odd, is that there have been no reported possible sightings after they left Ucluelet if they were hitching/ridesharing.