- Joined
- Jan 17, 2004
- Messages
- 42,931
- Reaction score
- 126,913
Is there a link to domestic violence related to Dawn Dumont? I've looked and have been unable to find anything other than anecdotal claims from unnamed people.
Canada - Dawn Dumont Walker, 48, accused of abducting her son and faking their deaths, Saskatoon, 23 Jul 2022
- Thread starter GuyfromCanada
- Start date
- Joined
- May 20, 2013
- Messages
- 8,000
- Reaction score
- 44,849
Police have confirmed Walker has filed domestic abuse reports, but Saskatoon police criminal investigation Supt. Patrick Nogier has chosen to withhold whether any charges were laid.
- Joined
- Oct 21, 2009
- Messages
- 58,230
- Reaction score
- 175,149
rbbm.
thestarphoenix.com
''FSIN Vice Chief Heather Bear has said Walker previously experienced domestic violence. Saskatoon police confirmed they have historical reports of domestic violence allegations involving her.
“Consideration is being given to previous contact that Saskatoon police has had with Dawn,” Obst said, though he declined to specify or offer any updates.''
FSIN offers unspecified award if Dawn Walker is not found after 48 hours
"Check your home, check whatever properties you may have. Check your abandoned buildings for anything that's out of the ordinary."
“Consideration is being given to previous contact that Saskatoon police has had with Dawn,” Obst said, though he declined to specify or offer any updates.''
This is where I first heard about the DV from FSIN leader and Dawn's sister: https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1B...f-whitecap-park-saskatoon-23-jul-2022.631151/
Police confirm that Dawn did file DV reports here: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sask...on-case-including-historical-issues-1.6535670
- Joined
- Jan 17, 2004
- Messages
- 42,931
- Reaction score
- 126,913
It's one thing to exclude heritage from a missing person's profile, and something entirely different to exclude gender and age.
There is a higher incidence of missing and murdered people in the indigenous community in Canada. However, that does not mean that all missing Indigenous persons are victims of murder.
Factually, a 48 year old woman and her 7 year old son parted ways with someone at 6 PM. Her vehicle, blanket and purse were found next to a fast flowing river. She and her son are missing.
Here's the allegation of domestic violence, but this is a friend or colleague making the claim. Is there any factual evidence, such as a police report, to support this claim?
"Dawn Walker, the executive operating officer for the Federation of Sovereign Indigenous Nations, and her seven-year-old son Vincent Jansen were last in contact with friends and colleagues on Friday.
...
[RCMP Staff Sgt. Greg Abbott] added that police officers haven’t found indication of foul play so far, though the investigation is ongoing.
Walker has experienced domestic violence, FSIN Vice-Chief Heather Bear said. However, Bear declined to make any allegations."
Searches expand for missing Dawn Walker and her seven-year-old son
Prominent writer and FSIN executive and her son have been missing since Friday with her truck located in Chief Whitecap Park.
- Joined
- Jan 17, 2004
- Messages
- 42,931
- Reaction score
- 126,913
Thank you! I missed that article.
Was the domestic abuse against the 7 year old as well? If this was a domestic abuse situation, wouldn't Dawn be targeted while she is alone? Why would the 7 year old be missing?
- Joined
- Oct 21, 2009
- Messages
- 58,230
- Reaction score
- 175,149
Dogs would be useful to help search, imo.
Nobody Cries At Bingo: Dumont, Dawn: 9781897235843: Amazon.com: Books
Nobody Cries At Bingo [Dumont, Dawn] on Amazon.com. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. Nobody Cries At Bingo
www.amazon.com
- Joined
- Jan 17, 2004
- Messages
- 42,931
- Reaction score
- 126,913
Five days after this water warning was issued, Dawn and her son apparently vanished next to the river very near the location where 3 people got into trouble days earlier. Did Dawn routinely carry life jackets when she went to the river? Did she routinely tell others when she was going to the river or beach?
"The Saskatoon Fire Department (SFD) are reminding people to be safe around the South Saskatchewan River.
“They should have a life jacket, a PFD of some sort,” says Rob Hogan, deputy fire chief at the Saskatoon Fire Department. “They should stay in groups, they should make sure they have some sort of communication, have plenty of water, refrain from alcohol.”
Three people were rescued on two separate incidents at Poplar Bluffs, about 15 minutes south of the city over the weekend.
...
“I think people are just underestimating the power of the river and kind of the environment they’re in. I think they need to be more aware of exactly where they’re going, and what they’re facing, and let other people know what they’re doing, and be prepared in cause they have some kind of problem,” says Hogan.
...
Any kind of swimming in the river is banned within city limits, and Hogan says it’s not as quick getting to those rural locations.
“It’s going to take time for people to get there. So that’s why I say people need to be prepared in case they do get into trouble, because it’s not coming in four or five minutes,” Hogan says."
July 18, 2022
globalnews.ca
"The Saskatoon Fire Department (SFD) are reminding people to be safe around the South Saskatchewan River.
“They should have a life jacket, a PFD of some sort,” says Rob Hogan, deputy fire chief at the Saskatoon Fire Department. “They should stay in groups, they should make sure they have some sort of communication, have plenty of water, refrain from alcohol.”
Three people were rescued on two separate incidents at Poplar Bluffs, about 15 minutes south of the city over the weekend.
...
“I think people are just underestimating the power of the river and kind of the environment they’re in. I think they need to be more aware of exactly where they’re going, and what they’re facing, and let other people know what they’re doing, and be prepared in cause they have some kind of problem,” says Hogan.
...
Any kind of swimming in the river is banned within city limits, and Hogan says it’s not as quick getting to those rural locations.
“It’s going to take time for people to get there. So that’s why I say people need to be prepared in case they do get into trouble, because it’s not coming in four or five minutes,” Hogan says."
July 18, 2022
Safety a concern following weekend rescues in South Saskatchewan River - Saskatoon | Globalnews.ca
"I think people are just underestimating the power of the river and kind of the environment they're in. I think they need to be more aware of exactly where they're going."
globalnews.ca
I agree many signs point to an accident, but there may be more we don’t know.
Why are locals being asked to check their buildings/property for something out of the ordinary now? Why is surveillance for the park being requested from only Friday Jul 22 6:30 to Saturday Jul 23 9:30 when her vehicle is said to have been located at the park on Monday Jul 25?
globalnews.ca
saskatoonpolice.ca
Why are locals being asked to check their buildings/property for something out of the ordinary now? Why is surveillance for the park being requested from only Friday Jul 22 6:30 to Saturday Jul 23 9:30 when her vehicle is said to have been located at the park on Monday Jul 25?
RCMP and FSIN offer update on search for a missing mother and son | Watch News Videos Online
Watch RCMP and FSIN offer update on search for a missing mother and son Video Online, on GlobalNews.ca
globalnews.ca
Update - Missing Persons - Request for Video Surveillance
The Saskatoon Police Service is continuing the missing persons investigation regarding the disappearance of 48-year-old [**REDACTED**] and her 7-year-old son [**REDACTED**]. Investigators are currently requesting any video/dash-cam footage that might assist in the investigation. Specifically...
saskatoonpolice.ca
- Joined
- Jan 17, 2004
- Messages
- 42,931
- Reaction score
- 126,913
I suppose police are looking for dashcam footage to confirm that Dawn drove her truck to the Chief Whitecap Park parking lot. Searching property and buildings near the river would be an optimistic hope that, if they ended up in the water, they were able to get out of the water downstream ... but were perhaps too weak to get help.I agree many signs point to an accident, but there may be more we don’t know.
Why are locals being asked to check their buildings/property for something out of the ordinary now? Why is surveillance for the park being requested from only Friday Jul 22 6:30 to Saturday Jul 23 9:30 when her vehicle is said to have been located at the park on Monday Jul 25?
RCMP and FSIN offer update on search for a missing mother and son | Watch News Videos Online
Watch RCMP and FSIN offer update on search for a missing mother and son Video Online, on GlobalNews.ca
Update - Missing Persons - Request for Video Surveillance
The Saskatoon Police Service is continuing the missing persons investigation regarding the disappearance of 48-year-old [**REDACTED**] and her 7-year-old son [**REDACTED**]. Investigators are currently requesting any video/dash-cam footage that might assist in the investigation. Specifically...
Police have said there's no evidence of criminal activity, so they are doing everything they can to search for bodies in the area near the truck and downstream from the truck. It sounds like the weir has not been searched, but that's an extremely dangerous task as the weir creates a water turbine.
I agree, I have had the same alarm bells going off about many cases of a missing woman, of any ethnicity, who has no reason to go missing. I thought from the beginning the parked truck, picnic blanket, discarded purse but no phone feel like staging.
Why would a mother take her little boy out after dinner to swim alone in a dangerous area where there were no people around? He's only 7!
He'd had a full day of fun, she was going away to Edmonton, it makes no sense.
The fact, now revealed, that the ex was the last one to see her and the boy alive, just heightens my dread. We've been here before.
(Reminder, police are looking for video of the parking lot after 6:30 pm Friday, ex says he dropped off his son around 6).
The fundraising by the ex is a new twist...
Today, it was announced that Dawn made the shortlist for the Leacock Medal for Canadian Literary Humour. 3 finalists were selected from 78 entries.
"The Stephen Leacock Memorial Medal for Humour, accompanied by a $25,000 prize, is awarded annually for the best book of literary humour written by a Canadian."
"The Stephen Leacock Memorial Medal for Humour, accompanied by a $25,000 prize, is awarded annually for the best book of literary humour written by a Canadian."
Wow, I hadn't heard about her book:
- Joined
- Sep 7, 2021
- Messages
- 5,504
- Reaction score
- 43,247
If you're in the US & have Hoopla available through your library, I see that DD's books Nobody Cries at Bingo, Rose's Run, and Glass Beads are available for check-out through Hoopla.
Fyi & MOO.
- Joined
- Jan 17, 2004
- Messages
- 42,931
- Reaction score
- 126,913
By all accounts, Dawn is well-educated, intelligent, successful and accomplished in her field.
It is standard practice to bring life jackets to water, whether boating or swimming - particularly when children are involved. Canadian Summer often means travelling with life jackets in the car regardless of destination - because a stop at the lake, river, or pool is common.
Does anyone know whether Dawn practiced recommended water safety with the use of life jackets for everyone when near water?
If the answer to this question is yes, she practiced water safety, then we can rule out that they fell into the river.
It is standard practice to bring life jackets to water, whether boating or swimming - particularly when children are involved. Canadian Summer often means travelling with life jackets in the car regardless of destination - because a stop at the lake, river, or pool is common.
Does anyone know whether Dawn practiced recommended water safety with the use of life jackets for everyone when near water?
If the answer to this question is yes, she practiced water safety, then we can rule out that they fell into the river.
- Joined
- Jan 10, 2011
- Messages
- 70,241
- Reaction score
- 274,132
If her ex is the only source of information saying that she and the boy went to that river, then I am unsure if they ever arrived there.
Anyone could have driven her vehicle there and laid out the blanket.
Anyone could have driven her vehicle there and laid out the blanket.
- Joined
- Jan 10, 2011
- Messages
- 70,241
- Reaction score
- 274,132
I have an alternate theory, and it is probably wishful thinking....
What if she was afraid of him and was also trying to protect her son? Could she have staged the scene and had a friend drive them from the scene, as a way to escape her ex and start a new life?
What if she was afraid of him and was also trying to protect her son? Could she have staged the scene and had a friend drive them from the scene, as a way to escape her ex and start a new life?
I don't think he's the one saying that. It's more that her truck and purse were found there.
Her ex said in interview quoted above, she might have moved somewhere for a 'fresh start'.
And not told her family, friends, co-workers and employer, missed the historic visit of the Pope, is ignoring the announcement of the shortlisting of her book for a major prize, leaving her very expensive truck behind in a random parking lot, leaving a packed suitcase in her home...
He's gonna have to try harder to convince me.
JMO
Just to note, if she took her truck there and then left town, she'd have needed someone to pick her up.
Same if someone else took her truck there.
Unless it's walkable back to her place.
I suspect her purse was found in the park early Saturday morning ie 9:30 am, and turned into police.
It was probably only when she was officially reported missing to.police on Sunday evening, that LE went to the park to follow up on the lead of her purse/ID having been found there. Then they ID'd her truck.
JMO
Same if someone else took her truck there.
Unless it's walkable back to her place.
Snipped for focus.
I suspect her purse was found in the park early Saturday morning ie 9:30 am, and turned into police.
It was probably only when she was officially reported missing to.police on Sunday evening, that LE went to the park to follow up on the lead of her purse/ID having been found there. Then they ID'd her truck.
JMO
- Joined
- Jan 17, 2004
- Messages
- 42,931
- Reaction score
- 126,913
This stands out for me.
"Jansen and Walker were partners four years ago, he said, and since then Jansen said Walker has tried to move away with the seven-year-old three times, including twice to Ottawa and once to the Victoria area." link
What that says to me is that the married father of a young girl, who parted ways with Dawn four years ago, shares custody of a seven year old son with Dawn. Because he is an active father, Dawn is prevented from taking the boy to another city. That is, the boy is entitled to have a relationship with his father and therefore the child must remain in Saskatoon as long as the father lives there as well.
I could see Dawn viewing that as controlling or worse, but Canadian law looks at the best interests of the child and does not allow one parent to deprive the child of regular contact with the other parent. Allegations of domestic violence would not be enough to change the rights of the child because courts do not view spousal conflict as indicative of violence towards children.
"Earlier in the day, he took his son to a day camp at the Shaw Centre on Saskatoon’s west side. Jansen said he picked Vincent up afterward, and then went with his wife and their daughter to get pizza, and then to Kinsmen Park.
“We just had a really nice time and we rode the little train they have there,” Jansen said. “Vincent really wanted to sit in the caboose of that kids train there. I dropped him off with his mom … at about six o’clock, and that’s the last time I saw him.” (same link)
This suggests that the 7 year old boy had a really nice day with his father, sister and step-mother before joining his mother at 6 PM. After a long day at day-camp, dinner, visiting the park and riding the mini-train in 22°C weather (71°F), his mother took him to Chief Whitecap Park around 6:30 PM. That's a long day for a 7 year old.
Hopefully there's dashcam footage of Dawn driving to the river to help focus the search.
