Found Deceased Canada - Justin Evans, 22, Gravenhurst, Ont, 12 Dec 2020

[evilwise]

Claim may turn out to be justifiable homicide

 

[Puzzles]

I'd be very surprised to learn Justin purposefully harmed himself.

Perhaps it's possible he had an accident in the shed, which led to blood loss, and he stumbled into the woods from a state of psychological shock and confusion.

"...When blood loss nears 30 to 40 percent of total blood volume, your body will have a traumatic reaction. Your blood pressure will drop down even further, and your heart rate will further increase..."

You may show signs of obvious confusion or disorientation. Your breathing will be more rapid and shallow..."

Lack of a blood trail, at least close to the shed, (in the woods it'd be more difficult to trace) could be attributed to applied fabric and pressure to staunch the flow.

We'd expect trained dogs to have been used to search for a blood trail, when the shed was found with blood in it.

But I don't recall learning that the blood found in the shed proved to be Justin's. Did I miss that important piece somewhere?

Could he have died from contaminated marijuana?

Is there a common denominator in Justin's death and that of his acquaintance who lived in the same park, and reportedly died from suicide?

Did Justin die from natural causes, in the woods?

Or did he die on the property where the home he shared was located, and for some unknown reason people panicked, and carried his body to the woods?

"...“It’s been a tough case all around,” he said. “It’s presented some challenges and it’s taken a long time to get answers...”

How Much Blood Can You Lose Before You Pass Out, Shock, Death, More
Not a murder: Police say Justin Evans case in Gravenhurst takes a turn

 

[Puzzles]

Jamie Wise comments about Justin's death deemed not a murder,

"...We (Justin family) after meeting with the detectives disagree and are very disappointed in the Bracebridge OPP. Our family will be fallowing up with a public statement in a few days..."

What agony for his mum, and for all those who love Justin.

Justice For Justin

 

[bombardier]

I'm with Justin's mum. This sounds like BS. How can they state its not murder due to the autopsy results?? How could Justin have died in a horrible bloody way and 6 months of decomp later it was still evident that it wasn't murder? If his COD was a cut or fatal injury, I don't think they could say its self-inflicted/accidental at this point in the investigation (especially considering where he was found). Only possibility I could think of is...fatal GI bleed (i.e. there is no way that someone else could have perpetrated that) but i HIGHLY doubt a massive medical event is to blame, especially considering Justin's age and health.

 

[bombardier]

Agree with @Skillz , I wonder if LE is leaning into manslaughter/accident that was covered up (but again, I don't know how they could tell so early in the investigation). One thing that I noticed is it's very...unusual for LE to come forward and say 'this isn't murder' rather than, 'this isn't foul play'. It's possible that LE do suspect foul play still (hard to deny that with the obstruction of justice charge) and that's why they used such specific semantics, to at least give the demanding public some piece of information.

 

[Justice Warrior]

I believe that in order for it to be murder there would have to be intent. If they deem there was no intent to kill then it isn’t murder. JMO

 

[CptCari]

Perhaps in saying that, the police are opening the door to admissions of something else.

 

[Puzzles]

Agree with @Skillz , I wonder if LE is leaning into manslaughter/accident that was covered up (but again, I don't know how they could tell so early in the investigation). One thing that I noticed is it's very...unusual for LE to come forward and say 'this isn't murder' rather than, 'this isn't foul play'. It's possible that LE do suspect foul play still (hard to deny that with the obstruction of justice charge) and that's why they used such specific semantics, to at least give the demanding public some piece of information.

BBM and snipped for focus:

Hi @bombardier,

Your astute observation above caught my eye, but I see now that more recently LE has stated,

"...Police said they don't believe Evans met with foul play..."

qualified by,

"We have not come to a final conclusion yet, but we are conducting a death investigation on behalf of the coroner," Det. Matt Watson said.

Justin Evans death likely not a homicide, investigators say

Stating they "have not come to a final conclusion" supports the interesting theory @CptCari has suggested:

Perhaps in saying that, the police are opening the door to admissions of something else.

If their statements are tactics to encourage admissions from those who might have been involved in whatever happened to Justin, I wonder what LE has divulged to Justin's family. We know his mum reports the family is upset by their public statements of it not being considered homicide.

Since Justin was first reported missing, IIRC, I've not seen any mention of it in Canada's national media, until the above article in CTV. Could it be because from the initial investigation LE believed there was no evidence of foul play?

And if there was no foul play, what theories for his death, and location of his remains do our sleuths suggest?

 

[bombardier]

BBM and snipped for focus:

Hi @bombardier,

Your astute observation above caught my eye, but I see now that more recently LE has stated,

"...Police said they don't believe Evans met with foul play..."

qualified by,

"We have not come to a final conclusion yet, but we are conducting a death investigation on behalf of the coroner," Det. Matt Watson said.

Justin Evans death likely not a homicide, investigators say

Stating they "have not come to a final conclusion" supports the interesting theory @CptCari has suggested:



If their statements are tactics to encourage admissions from those who might have been involved in whatever happened to Justin, I wonder what LE has divulged to Justin's family. We know his mum reports the family is upset by their public statements of it not being considered homicide.

Since Justin was first reported missing, IIRC, I've not seen any mention of it in Canada's national media, until the above article in CTV. Could it be because from the initial investigation LE believed there was no evidence of foul play?

And if there was no foul play, what theories for his death, and location of his remains do our sleuths suggest?

Thanks @Puzzles , I totally missed that newest LE release! Police seem very confident with their statements; I am very curious about what they know, and what is leading their confidence. Maybe someone has spilled the beans and further charges, as CpntCari suggested, are pending.
Quick question, though; under what scenario could Justin have died accidentally/naturally/self inflicted and this roommates grandfather could still be charged with obstruction of justice? If this was totally innocent in nature, why would obstruction of justice be taking place?

 

[bombardier]

BBM and snipped for focus:

Hi @bombardier,
And if there was no foul play, what theories for his death, and location of his remains do our sleuths suggest?

Some possibilities I could think of that combines no foul play, no murder, blood in the shed, and the conflicting statements from his friends...
(personally I dont back any of these theories, until more is released I can't shake the notion that everything points to foul play)
-Justin was suicidal and fatally injured himself in the cabin, stopped the bleeding somehow, then died where he was found. The friends either didn't know of Justins state of mind, or knew but didn't want to tell his family.
-Justin had a fatal medical event in the cabin involving bleeding, again stemmed it somehow, was confused and ran in the wrong direction for help, and died where he was found.
-Justin had a fatal accident with some equipment in the shed, was bleeding, and for some unknown reason, didn't go for help but instead ran into the foliage.
-Something happened that his roommate/rm's girlfriend COULD have helped with (i.e. overdose but typically.. those dont involve extreme bleeding) (he could have threatened to hurt himself but was not taken seriously) and, feeling guilty, they moved the body and tried to pretend this was a voluntary dissappearance.
-Justin got injured with an object of a roommates (i.e. a firearm, a hunting knife, drugs that they had purchased) and, afraid they get would blamed, they moved the body and reported a dissappearance.

 

[Puzzles]

New It's a Crime, discussing Justin's death deemed not foul play.

 

[bombardier]

New It's a Crime, discussing Justin's death deemed not foul play.

Hope this is okay to post - transcript of the public statement from Justin's family, as sent directly to Linda.

"In light of the recent media release by the police we, the family of Justin Evans, want it known that we do not support the direction the police are taking in Justin's case. We are very disappointed and extremely disheartened that the police would make a media release based on findings that we were told were not conclusive and before they have ever received Justin's FULL pathology report back. During a family meeting with the detectives police advised the family of concerning statements made by a neighbour prior to his death and feel as though those statements cast a great deal of doubt on their findings and the involvement of this neighbour. It's difficult to understand why a proper search of the area Justin went missing from was not completed by police and their excuses they provide for not performing a proper search are just that, excuses. There are several concerning factors that we do not feel support their theory. We strongly believe that the police have failed Justin, he deserved more."

(I full-heartedly agree with this statement. And I think the current top comment under the video summed it up well when they said 'Just because, at this time, the authorities cannot declare Justin's death as criminal, their report is clearly incomplete and they shouldn't be publishing such a definite conclusion.')

 

[AnalysisMonster]

Which neighbour? Lucas? Sara?
I’m so uncomfortable with the police NOT searching for Justin. Why did we think they had? Have they said this or did we just assume they would?

If Justin did kill himself why did he even bother to leave the shed? If he was bleeding that bad (from the amount of blood in shed) why not just stay there? Where the heck was he going? Does this seem bananas to anyone?

 

[AnalysisMonster]

Posting a screenshot from Its a crime of the location where Justin was found

 

[Skillz]

I need to catch up with the last media release and Linda’s latest video. But I am completely flabbergasted much like you all. All of the lies...the obstruction charge...it doesn’t make sense. I wonder if the police botched this thing and have jack as far as evidence.
Justice for Justin.

 

[Skillz]

Posting a screenshot from Its a crime of the location where Justin was found

Thank you!

so you know which trailer was Justin’s residence? I’m trying to see just how far the shed was from this location. I believe someone said it was 500 meters earlier in the thread.

 

[Justice Warrior]

I did not realize he was found so close to the residence. It’s crazy that it took 6 months to find him. Something went wrong with the investigation... no reason why they wouldn’t have searched the area.

 

[AnalysisMonster]

The police are calling it a suicide the family says

 

[AnalysisMonster]

so you know which trailer was Justin’s residence?

unsure myself. I would also like to know which was Lucas’ and which was Sara

Does anyone know? I’d love to see them labelled

 

[Skillz]

unsure myself. I would also like to know which was Lucas’ and which was Sara

Does anyone know? I’d love to see them labelled

The police are calling it a suicide the family says

This article is so tragic. I don’t believe that he committed suicide. I believe the family should hire a private investigator to get down to the bottom of this.

The article stated that he had purchased Christmas presents and had future plans. That doesn’t make sense right? Or maybe it does...I don’t know.