Canada - Liana White, 29, Edmonton AB, 12 July 2005 - #3

[Casshew]

Looks like Canada may have its own Scott Peterson

Scott, I can handle... but if there's a Jackie up here ~ I'm leaving! :snooty:

 

[KrazyKollector]

I keep trying to come up with possible motives also.

Besides the good ones you all have offered up, I am wondering about a couple more.

Is the husband on steroids? Could he have become enraged from something simple and then went too far?

Could he be an abuser, one who wanted control totally over his wife? When she backtalked, he flew into a full-blown hissy and used his wife as a human punching bag? Perhaps going too far?

When her description first came out, it was said Lianna was 5'4" and 190 pounds. But, the pics we saw, few as they were, didn't seem to support that stat. The description was fixed later to say 150 pounds (I think that's what I read). Could he not have liked her getting so big, made fun of her or made hateful comments about her size. Finally, she tells him when to stick it and he goes into a sociopathic rage? That would be part of the abuseive personna.

Nothing has been said in the news or on tv about him being any kind of abuser. I am just throwing our ideas for everyone.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

I keep trying to come up with possible motives also.

Besides the good ones you all have offered up, I am wondering about a couple more.

Is the husband on steroids? Could he have become enraged from something simple and then went too far?

Could he be an abuser, one who wanted control totally over his wife? When she backtalked, he flew into a full-blown hissy and used his wife as a human punching bag? Perhaps going too far?

When her description first came out, it was said Lianna was 5'4" and 190 pounds. But, the pics we saw, few as they were, didn't seem to support that stat. The description was fixed later to say 150 pounds (I think that's what I read). Could he not have liked her getting so big, made fun of her or made hateful comments about her size. Finally, she tells him when to stick it and he goes into a sociopathic rage? That would be part of the abuseive personna.

Nothing has been said in the news or on tv about him being any kind of abuser. I am just throwing our ideas for everyone.

Gosh, I hope not! She looked pretty small for being pregnant AND he's kind of a pig himself, so he has no room to judge a woman for her weight. :sick:

 

[Jess]

I am listening to CHED radio in Edmonton. They are going to carry the news conference live,as I believe CBC NewsWorld also. www.630ched.com/
Nothing has been heard from either family: no mention of any website or anything for condolences. I would think the hospital ( Royal Alex) would pass along any cards or letters.
Interestingly the staff was said to be sad, no mention of shocked or surprised. Could be a media slant or it could be very telling.

 

[Alta]

I was saddened this morning when I woke up and watched ctv newsnet to see she had been found and the husband charged with her murder.I have been following this since she went missing and when I watched his tearful plea,I had to wonder if he didn't plan his speech so well it all come out wrong.I think he tried to hard to sound sincere.I also had the feeling it would be a search party that he was part of would find her body.They had a few day old interview this morning on our local Global station and in my opinion he was a little to rested looking and relaxed for a man so worried about his missing wife.Its 3 here now I am gonna flick and see if I can find the news conference anywhere.

 

[Jess]

These are just notes on the news conference. I am typing as they speak.
Detective Michael Campeau-- lead investigator

confirms it is Liana White
cannot give a time of death
cannot charge a person in Canada with the death of an unborn child
EDP had never gone to the house before
no criminal record
record with the military
media - put investigation under stress
there has been a policeman working on this file - every single minute
will not comment where the murder was committed
preliminary search of the house - found nothing
cause of death is undetermined
state of decomposition --more tests must be done
body shows signs of a struggle
they always knew where he was when he was searching
half ton truck - removed from scene-- vehicle left where her body found
financial difficulties
comments on tv -- out of the norm of a way a suspect acts
no polygraph
she was not fully clothed
person of interest- from the get go -- look at the family first- not as a suspect - later on in the week he became one
search warrants being prepared for financial situation
Both families - are devestated
tragic for both families
Liana's mom is not doing well at all-- thinks she has custody of Ashley
second time in house - forensic team has over 150 exhibits - at the house, SUV,field
house was pristine - not a red flag
2nd degree - no evidence of any planning
Sunday night-- he was arrested - lawyer caution/rights just after 4
He exercised those rights
murder took place between the 11th and the 12th
timeframe - times are different between him and the witnesses
last seen by ? ( someone else) at midnight
no evidence of any other person involved
paternity not questioned

 

[FacTink]

Some quotes...

>>Earlier that day he had said his nights since Liana's disappearance had alternated between nightmares and sleeplessness.

"If they're thinking it was the husband, forget the husband. Let's find my wife," he told a reporter, adding that he feared the worst.

"I want people to know she was an outstanding person who contributed to the community," he said. "There's no reason why this should have happened." <<


Check the distancing..."If they're (who is they?) thinking it was the husband (THE HUSBAND? OR "ME, HER HUSBAND") Then there is "my wife" not Lianne...

"I want people to know she ---> WAS <---- an outstanding person who ..." (contributed <----past tense)

"There's no reason why this should have happened..." Hmmm...you mean "I can't imagine that Lianne could have done anything that could have contributed to her disappearance...she was always cautious, looked out for strangers..." why "this" <----this?

Well...perhaps some of this is somewhat explainable, but so much of it just felt so weird to the ears! The bit about "thinking it was the husband" is really strange...

FT

 

[Jess]

The truck was registered to Michael White. They were aware of it and were in the process of getting a search warrant for it. Some media had reported a vehicle being driven out of the field under a tarp.

I typed as fast as I could. If I missed things, I hope someone else can fill in

 

[Mabel]

Thanks, Jess. That answers many of our questions.

EDP had never gone to the house before

What is EDP?

 

[FacTink]

Hi Jess,

Thanks so much! Can you recall anything else that was said? I tried to find something/anything on TV here in California, could not

 

[Jess]

EDP - Edmonton Police Department

I guess he has a record with the military ( criminal ) but none with civilian authorities in Edmonton. They had never been called to the house before this -- ala domestic abuse etc.
I am trying to remember all that I heard- it really didn't register as I was typing.

 

[Mabel]

The truck was registered to Michael White. They were aware of it and were in the process of getting a search warrant for it. Some media had reported a vehicle being driven out of the field under a tarp.

I typed as fast as I could. If I missed things, I hope someone else can fill in

I figured out the EDP thing, nevermind.

Are you saying that he left his own truck at the location where her body was found?

 

[Casshew]

These are just notes on the news conference. I am typing as they speak.
Detective Michael Campeau-- lead investigator

confirms it is Liana White
cannot give a time of death
cannot charge a person in Canada with the death of an unborn child
EDP had never gone to the house before
no criminal record
record with the military
media - put investigation under stress
there has been a policeman working on this file - every single minute
will not comment where the murder was committed
preliminary search of the house - found nothing
cause of death is undetermined
state of decomposition --more tests must be done
body shows signs of a struggle
they always knew where he was when he was searching
half ton truck - removed from scene-- vehicle left where her body found
financial difficulties
comments on tv -- out of the norm of a way a suspect acts
no polygraph
she was not fully clothed
person of interest- from the get go -- look at the family first- not as a suspect - later on in the week he became one
search warrants being prepared for financial situation
Both families - are devestated
tragic for both families
Liana's mom is not doing well at all-- thinks she has custody of Ashley
second time in house - forensic team has over 150 exhibits - at the house, SUV, house
house was pristine - not a red flag
2nd degree - no evidence of any planning
Sunday night-- he was arrested - lawyer caution/rights just after 4
He exercised those rights
murder took place between the 11th and the 12th
timeframe - times are different between him and the witnesses
last seen by ? ( someone else) at midnight
no evidence of any other person involved
paternity not questioned

Wow.. thanks Jess, great recap :blowkiss:

A few things stand out-

Liana's body showed signs of a struggle - she knew who her killer was, what he was doing, she tried to flght back and protect herself and her baby.

Her body was not fully clothed....

Financial difficulites.... a ha! a new baby would make it worse for Mr. White

also

if she said she was leaving him - he would have 2 kids to support


House was pristine.... looks like Mr. Clean payed a visit

Cause of death - undetermined?? we need a better coroner!

 

[Jess]

If you go to the website www.630ched.com/ you can get a live audio feed and they are going to be talking about it at the bottom of the hour -- 2:30 your time

 

[Alta]

The truck was registered to Michael White. They were aware of it and were in the process of getting a search warrant for it. Some media had reported a vehicle being driven out of the field under a tarp.

I typed as fast as I could. If I missed things, I hope someone else can fill in

I watched this as well ctv newsnet aired it.I looked up their site but they charge a subscription fee to watch their live feeds.You basically got everything he said I was scrambling to write it all down.I believe they did say the 150 exhibits are evidence collected from the house,suv and also from the area where the body was found.He was arrested at the scene shortly after the body was located.

 

[FacTink]

Thanks Jess! HAVE THE LIVE FEED thanks to you!

ft

 

[Jess]

Apparently body was quite decomposed. Guess they looking for strangulation, asphyxiation ?
Indignity to a dead body -- just what we originally said, that she was dumped or left without proper burial.
The husband's rights changed as soon as he was charged - and advised of those rights ( we do not have Miranda ) and he used those rights.

 

[Jess]

The remark about a pristine house came from a reporter. The lead investigator said it did not mean anything as most people do not live as pigs I think he said. Could have said slobs.

 

[Jess]

Obviously the police were watching and listening to every word, every nuance said by Michael White to the media. Guess they know all about the body language just like we do !!

 

[FacTink]

>>Apparently body was quite decomposed.<<

What have the temps been in Edmonton between the 12th and the 19th? That is not a long time for a body to decompose unless it has been very hot?

FT