GUILTY Canada - Loretta Saunders, 26, Halifax, NS, 13 February 2014 #2

[appleeye]

I knew that the family was trying to get to NS to join the search. I didn't know that they had raised all the money.

I am very surprised that their band did not help with these costs (maybe they did but I didn't hear otherwise).

There is something fishy with the request for 3000.00

I don't like that he is doing that.

It is for him and his mother that came from Turkey to support him as far as I can see from the crowdfunding page.

 

[mye400can]

I really must take a moment and put out this information:

1. WS is a victim friendly forum and LS's boyfriend Yalcin is a victim

2. Police have clearly stated that 'they are not looking for any more suspects' and they have arrested and charged the two people involved in the murder of Loretta Saunders

eleph

No one is saying that he is not a victim. Things just are not adding up.

Pls Note that Police always say things only to find out later that they maybe looking for others.

 

[otto]

Nothing has been confirmed.

There was one incorrectly written obituary released; then quickly retracted and re-released--showing no boyfriend.

The rest is all rumours coming from the private Facebook page.

Two obituaries were posted here, one with, and one without, the name of Loretta's partner.

 

[Figuring]

It seems possible to me that YS could be being 'blamed' by the family for not calling about her disappearance sooner. Not saying that I'm right, or that that would be a right thing to do, but I think it could be a very natural reaction for grieving people.

Now there's mention of another (previous?) boyfriend, RF, who seems much closer with the family (seems their families are close). Obvs YS is victim too, but it seems the family is/families are at the very least closing ranks.

Hard to know what to think!

 

[otto]

I really must take a moment and put out this information:

1. WS is a victim friendly forum and LS's boyfriend Yalcin is a victim

2. Police have clearly stated that 'they are not looking for any more suspects' and they have arrested and charged the two people involved in the murder of Loretta Saunders

eleph

Police also said that there was video of Loretta leaving the apartment. We now know that there was no video of her leaving the apartment on her own two feet. Although police have said that they believe they have the people responsible, and at the time of the arrest of Victoria and Blake they did not anticipate additional arrests, today is a different day.

I am still trying to understand how this could have happened. Any thoughts on why an educated 26 year old woman would give her apartment keys to a couple of homeless, unemployed, drug using drifters?

 

[otto]

I am wondering why one would think that the family would help him come.

Last I checked, you can drive to NFLD.

They just buried their daughter, his expenses are not their main concern.

After two and a half years that Loretta was together with him, it's sounds like he is perceived as nothing more than a foreign student with no connection to the family.

 

[appleeye]

Police also said that there was video of Loretta leaving the apartment. We now know that there was no video of her leaving the apartment on her own two feet. Although police have said that they believe they have the people responsible, and at the time of the arrest of Victoria and Blake they did not anticipate additional arrests, today is a different day.

I am still trying to understand how this could have happened. Any thoughts on why an educated 26 year old woman would give her apartment keys to a couple of homeless, unemployed, drug using drifters?

My thoughts exactly! How did they meet? They say Kijiji. But no one is saying for sure

She was collecting rent that they did not pay (from what I read they had only been there a month).

The time line and the connections are the weird things for me. She lived with them / didn't live with them. She knew them but for how long had they known each other. A lot of unanswered questions about the murderers.
How do you hand over keys without payment? This is my confusion

 

[Figuring]

I am still trying to understand how this could have happened. Any thoughts on why an educated 26 year old woman would give her apartment keys to a couple of homeless, unemployed, drug using drifters?

Do you remember that article you pointed me to (I think it was you?!), about VH living in a motel out west with a friend before meeting BL? THAT friend somehow knew Loretta AND is living in the Cowie building and said she'd say hi to all three (LS, VH, BL).

Is it just me--this seemed like such an unlikely network of connections? And that they'd live virtually together again?

I keep thinking LS might have relied on knowing these two as aquaintances or someone from an extended circle "vouched" for them.

EDIT to add link/blurb:http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-...ates-charged-with-1st-degree-murder-1.2554052


Henneberry's old roommate speaks

Krystina Latham, 20, knew both Henneberry and Saunders.

In the summer of 2012, Latham said, she and Henneberry lived together for a few months in a hotel room. She wouldn't go into detail about why she and Henneberry were living in a hotel, but said those were "rough times."

"I used to live with her, Victoria, I used to hang out with her at one time. Then she ran away and never came back."

Coincidentally, Latham now lives in the Cowie Hill apartment building where Saunders lived, and where police believe she died.

Latham said she and Saunders would say "hi" to each other in the hallway.

 

[otto]

It seems possible to me that YS could be being 'blamed' by the family for not calling about her disappearance sooner. Not saying that I'm right, or that that would be a right thing to do, but I think it could be a very natural reaction for grieving people.

Now there's mention of another (previous?) boyfriend, RF, who seems much closer with the family (seems their families are close). Obvs YS is victim too, but it seems the family is/families are at the very least closing ranks.

Hard to know what to think!

She was murdered on Feb 13, so even if he had notified police that evening, it wouldn't have changed the outcome. In fact, early reporting may have given Victoria and Blake a reason to ditch the car and vanish. As it is, with their four day head start, they were confident that they got away with murder, and very careless about leaving the car in a visible location that was easy to connect with them.

If the families are closing ranks, does that suggest that there is some sort of connection between the live in boyfriend and Blake/Victoria? Did he introduce them to each other?

 

[mye400can]

Police also said that there was video of Loretta leaving the apartment. We now know that there was no video of her leaving the apartment on her own two feet. Although police have said that they believe they have the people responsible, and at the time of the arrest of Victoria and Blake they did not anticipate additional arrests, today is a different day.

I am still trying to understand how this could have happened. Any thoughts on why an educated 26 year old woman would give her apartment keys to a couple of homeless, unemployed, drug using drifters?

I'm no expert but murder could be if there was a struggle in her apt and she died later on from that she could have walked with the 2 out of the building. Its just like if somone shot someone that person that got shot died in the hospital the police would still consider the murder place as the place of where the victim got shot at.

 

[otto]

Do you remember that article you pointed me to (I think it was you?!), about VH living in a motel out west with a friend before meeting BL? THAT friend somehow knew Loretta AND is living in the Cowie building and said she'd say hi to all three (LS, VH, BL).

Is it just me--this seemed like such an unlikely network of connections? And that they'd live virtually together again?

I keep thinking LS might have relied on knowing these two as aquaintances or someone from an extended circle "vouched" for them.

I do recall the article quoting a friend of Victoria that lived in the same apartment building. I don't recall now whether she was friendly with Loretta. I've got meetings now, but will search for the article later. That might be a connection as well.

 

[Figuring]

Police also said that there was video of Loretta leaving the apartment. We now know that there was no video of her leaving the apartment on her own two feet. Although police have said that they believe they have the people responsible, and at the time of the arrest of Victoria and Blake they did not anticipate additional arrests, today is a different day.

I am still trying to understand how this could have happened. Any thoughts on why an educated 26 year old woman would give her apartment keys to a couple of homeless, unemployed, drug using drifters?

I do recall the article quoting a friend of Victoria that lived in the same apartment building. I don't recall now whether she was friendly with Loretta. I've got meetings now, but will search for the article later. That might be a connection as well.

Otto scan back up to my post--I edited to add the article info

 

[elepher50]

Two obituaries were posted here, one with, and one without, the name of Loretta's partner.

My opinion on the obituary write up with the 'partner' insert was clearly a grammatical error on the part of whoever wrote the obituary. It is my humble opinion that Loretta's father(Clayton) and mother(Miriam) are not together but rather that Miriam is with the Robbie person.

Rumours are very rampant right now on the private Facebook pages and that is what they are = rumours. There are also a fair number of people on the FB groups who are shall I shall 'just stirring it' for all it is worth at the moment.

Having said all of that - who knows what has gone on in the past. There certainly was never a mention of the Robbie guy the whole time Loretta was missing - he was not front and center.

To be totally honest I found it very, very odd that Loretta's mother and father did not come to Halifax and also that they did not attend the vigil (as far as I know) that was held in Goose Bay. Strange - very strange.

There is something strange about the family but it has no bearing on Loretta's demise at the hands of two evil people.

 

[Miranda]

I do recall the article quoting a friend of Victoria that lived in the same apartment building. I don't recall now whether she was friendly with Loretta. I've got meetings now, but will search for the article later. That might be a connection as well.

I'm at work so can't find the link now but there was a girl who had lived with VH in a motel for a few months who now lives in the Cowie Hill building. She said that she knew Loretta enough to say hello in passing.

 

[Roxy Monoxide]

I'm at work so can't find the link now but there was a girl who had lived with VH in a motel for a few months who now lives in the Cowie Hill building. She said that she knew Loretta enough to say hello in passing.

It was a story by Elizabeth Chiu on CBC - she interviewed a former friend/roommate of Victoria's. my impression from the interview was that this girl didn't know LS ahead of time, but knew her from the building they both had apartments in at the time of her disappearance. i didn't get the feeling that this girl knew LS before VH/BL moved in, but i could be wrong.

 

[Truth Prevails]

I really must take a moment and put out this information:

1. WS is a victim friendly forum and LS's boyfriend Yalcin is a victim

2. Police have clearly stated that 'they are not looking for any more suspects' and they have arrested and charged the two people involved in the murder of Loretta Saunders

eleph

Yes, my thoughts, too.

 

[Truth Prevails]

Two obituaries were posted here, one with, and one without, the name of Loretta's partner.

Yes. One can one can only be found in a cached version, because it was quickly amended.

The cached version is happily feeding some agendas.

 

[Truth Prevails]

Police also said that there was video of Loretta leaving the apartment. We now know that there was no video of her leaving the apartment on her own two feet. Although police have said that they believe they have the people responsible, and at the time of the arrest of Victoria and Blake they did not anticipate additional arrests, today is a different day.

I am still trying to understand how this could have happened. Any thoughts on why an educated 26 year old woman would give her apartment keys to a couple of homeless, unemployed, drug using drifters?

BBM - Link, please.

 

[kdgdid]

I knew that the family was trying to get to NS to join the search. I didn't know that they had raised all the money.

I am very surprised that their band did not help with these costs (maybe they did but I didn't hear otherwise).

There is something fishy with the request for 3000.00

I don't like that he is doing that.

It is my understanding the 15.000 was only from the online donation site more was raised from what SMU gave ,online auctions, events held like bake sales,dances, donations collected at the vigils etc.

Being a University student LS may also of had insurance through her student fees I know I did when I attended though I do not attend in NS.

 

[dotr]

http://www.680news.com/2014/03/05/v...-for-murdered-halifax-woman-loretta-saunders/
"Vigil held on Parliament Hill for murdered Halifax woman Loretta Saunders"