Canada - Lucas Fowler, Chynna Deese, and Leonard Dyck, all murdered, Alaska Hwy, BC, Jul 2019 #18

[Sillybilly]

There is still no MSM link to the gas station image purporting to show the accused perp(s) at the gas station in Fairview.

There is an article about them being in Fairview but it does not contain the image that is being discussed.

The only source for that particular image of that particular vehicle was not an approved source. If it is not in MSM, you can't use it.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Your screen name should be EagleEyes! Great detail.

Which pic are seeing the stitching below the elbows on the sleeves? You can really see the pattern on the right side of the pic, where it looks like the light is coming in from a window, in the pic I just posted.

Haha, my child's nickname is EagleEyes! Doesn't miss a beat that kid lol!

In this pic, his left arm below elbow, some white stitching? Or it's a lengthwise pocket and the light is tricking me.

Also his right arm looks blurred out, maybe they did buy something or he's carrying something LE blurred out? This has probably already been discussed. I missed a lot of the threads in the beginning stages.

We are assuming they are the same jackets/shirt in the pics right? I think they are, as it looks like it.

 

[sandbar]

Haha, my child's nickname is EagleEyes! Doesn't miss a beat that kid lol!

In this pic, his left arm below elbow, some white stitching? Or it's a lengthwise pocket and the light is tricking me.

Also his right arm looks blurred out, maybe they did buy something or he's carrying something LE blurred out? This has probably already been discussed. I missed a lot of the threads in the beginning stages.

We are assuming they are the same jackets/shirt in the pics right? I think they are, as it looks like it.

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Yes, I think it's a patch pocket sewn on the arm.

I think it's the same shirt/jacket. It's possible it's not Canadian, and the arm pocket might mean something to someone who knows about these things. Looking at the buttons too, only one clear in that pic, do you think there's writing on them, you know what I mean?

 

[sandbar]

Ewewewe...I just googled vintage "Russian military camoflage", and I'm not sure what's scarier, the men in camo wearing balaclavas, or without. Yuck.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Ewewewe...I just googled vintage "Russian military camoflage", and I'm not sure what's scarier, the men in camo wearing balaclavas, or without. Yuck.

I tried looking at Russian too lol! And German... looks so similar to some BDU field jackets, but can't find a good match.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Yes, I think it's a patch pocket sewn on the arm.

I think it's the same shirt/jacket. It's possible it's not Canadian, and the arm pocket might mean something to someone who knows about these things. Looking at the buttons too, only one clear in that pic, do you think there's writing on them, you know what I mean?

I zoomed in and can't see writing on the button. Yes, wish there was a military person who knew about this stuff!

 

[superbee]

Just outside FSJ there is a lovely big viewpoint where you can look down on the Site C site. There is even a big, free, mounted scope so you can look down on the whole operation. While we were there a few weeks ago, there were several others looking and chatting, and it seemed like every one either works at Site C or knew someone who does. There was friendly talk about the various jobs. I can't imagine 2 young fellows not taking an hour to check out the same lookout and view down on the project. Maybe they listened to the job discussions and decided working there was not for them?

 

[superbee]

Sorry I didn't get a quote on my post just above this, it's in reply to #912 about Site C and Fort St. John.

 

[SovereignSnake]

My opinion on that middle photo of Kam standing at the gas pump in Fairview. I don't think it's a cellphone. It very well could be, but it looks more like he's holding the keys because I only see his left hand raised but not his right. I also noticed the gas hatch is open. I was also thinking maybe he was holding the gas cap but it could be sitting in the holder on the hatch. I'm 50/50 on keys or gas cap. Just an observation.

 

[Iwondertoo]

Thanks for your reply. I'll do a search on WS sometime for the thread.

CADPAT is the digital 48-bit looking pattern?

Sorry, I'm not sure what 48- bit means...

I can't readily find a pic of my son's casual camo jacket. But for those interested, I did find this photo of a real Canadian Army Temperate Woodland jacket. It looks a bit different to BS's.

For what it's worth, BS was wearing a camo jacket that is available in army surplus stores and probably some online retailers too.

Army Surplus is just the name of a store, I don't believe it really means "army surplus". At least in Canada. There'd be hell to pay if the army here ordered so much extra that they could stock retail stores continuously.

"Army surplus" store just means it sells the type of army inventory that looks like and could pass for army surplus. My 8 year old son bought his camo jacket at an army surplus store and was thrilled to find it in his size.

Just think about that if you think army surplus is really army surplus...

Lots of kids (and adults too) like camo print for a variety of reasons but I doubt there is any connection between BS's camo gear and real Canadian army gear. JMO.

 

[srper2]

I was looking at the pics of the burned RAV4, and funny that the local police who pulled them over said all they found were 2 boxes and a suit. There are burned/singed sieves, soil scoops etc that must have belonged to LD. It is very likely the boxes contained LD's botany/camping equipment and BS and KM really had nothing apart from BS's suit (if the report of seeing the suit was even correct) and the clothes they were wearing. I am also starting to wonder if BS and KM burned their vehicle with the intention of committing suicide close by, sure they would not be needing their computer, truck or any other belongings anymore, but then backed out at the last minute, saw police/firefighters or whoever responded to the burning vehicle, panicked and LD was killed for his vehicle. LD may have seen them walking and offered them a lift, or they found him parked in the pullout, murdered him and stole his vehicle, then headed south, away from the burning truck and responders. MOO

 

[srper2]

My opinion on that middle photo of Kam standing at the gas pump in Fairview. I don't think it's a cellphone. It very well could be, but it looks more like he's holding the keys because I only see his left hand raised but not his right. I also noticed the gas hatch is open. I was also thinking maybe he was holding the gas cap but it could be sitting in the holder on the hatch. I'm 50/50 on keys or gas cap. Just an observation.

Yep, I agree, probably keys (LD's car keys).

 

[srper2]

I zoomed in and can't see writing on the button. Yes, wish there was a military person who knew about this stuff!

I saw a "JET" military shirt/jacket that appears to have been made the same, with same stitching, pockets, buttons etc, but the one here is a different camo design. By Alpha Industries, apparently a trendy brand that makes camo clothing, "field Jackets". They seem to have a heap of camo gear and it seems to change every year/season. His jacket and pants could be from there. Probably trendy for a teenager to wear while out with his friends playing airsoft. Apparently you can add a liner in cold weather.
JET Army Military Camouflage Button Shirt Mens Large | eBay and the Alpha shop: https://www.alphaindustries.com/mens-landing

 

[srper2]

I have a feeling those behavioral analysts have seen it all! Probably some pretty freaky stuff out there...

This is some interesting reading: Why Online Games Make Players Act Like Psychopaths (not sure if I can post this link, but here goes!)
Made me think about the news report of the neighbour who said BS used to say something like "imagine if this was real" when playing online/video games.

 

[Jan424]

SBM

I noticed that Happy Birthday banner, too, and I can't even explain why, but it just made me so sad.

I also noticed he took a pic of part of his thumb (I think) with that one. Like he was fumbling around while trying to snap the pic.


Oh that's a good point--he could be looking at the pumps! Depending on where the store is in relation to the pumps, maybe he is looking at the store? Or perhaps the road? It's hard to tell since the photos show so little of their surroundings.

All MOO

I felt so badly seeing that birthday banner too. I wonder whose birthday it was.
There you go with another detail find... I never noticed the thumb!
And yes, definitely he could even be looking towards a store, road, etc....
JMO
ETA: Gas PUMPS! My mind drew a blank on that word.

 

[CinNC]

This is some interesting reading: Why Online Games Make Players Act Like Psychopaths (not sure if I can post this link, but here goes!)
Made me think about the news report of the neighbour who said BS used to say something like "imagine if this was real" when playing online/video games.

WHOA! I've never played a video game in my life other than Mario Cart and Wii sports. This is unnerving!

 

[sandbar]

Yeah so true. A lot of Bryer's pics, even the disturbing ones, just make me sad because they're so painfully weird. For the most part, Kam's pictures, few that they are, are disarmingly normal.

But Bryer's just tend to be so odd, like the one of him in his nice suit, which would be a nice picture. But there's the random light fixture right next to his head. I can't figure out why he didn't just move over about a foot, so there would be nothing in the background but the wall.

MOO

I may be totally wrong, but most of K's pictures are of his face, we don't see him in his world or in context. B, pitiful or evil, we see a bit of his world. We can place him in space, Kam is just floating...maybe that's a parallel to reality, maybe K had a "loving family" but no attachment to it. It reminds me of a guy I knew in high school: went to his house and there were all of these studio family portraits, family members in their finest, and my friend was in ripped jeans, had his back to the camera, was wasted, all of it in the frame and visible. And there were multiple "sittings" and this guy would do the same thing over and over and over. This was in the early 80s and I thought there was something SO wrong with what those images represent.

 

[sandbar]

some BDU field jackets

I don't know what this means...

 

[sandbar]

I saw a "JET" military shirt/jacket that appears to have been made the same, with same stitching, pockets, buttons etc, but the one here is a different camo design. By Alpha Industries, apparently a trendy brand that makes camo clothing, "field Jackets". They seem to have a heap of camo gear and it seems to change every year/season. His jacket and pants could be from there. Probably trendy for a teenager to wear while out with his friends playing airsoft. Apparently you can add a liner in cold weather.
JET Army Military Camouflage Button Shirt Mens Large | eBay and the Alpha shop: https://www.alphaindustries.com/mens-landing

To my way of thinking, trying to think like a teenage boy, a guy with a swastika arm band is not going to wear a camo knock-off. Seems too middle of the road, too poser. Maybe I'm too cinematic in my thinking but his camo jacket probably has meaning to him. It could be his prized possession, his identity. And I doubt it's Canadian, JMHO.

 

[NJSleuth91]

To my way of thinking, trying to think like a teenage boy, a guy with a swastika arm band is not going to wear a camo knock-off. Seems too middle of the road, too poser. Maybe I'm too cinematic in my thinking but his camo jacket probably has meaning to him. It could be his prized possession, his identity. And I doubt it's Canadian, JMHO.

That's a good point, but it also depended on what was available, and the funds available to buy it with. It definitely seemed like it was very meaningful to him though, and maybe he did see it as his "identity" in a way. I don't think it was a coincidence that he wore it as a fugitive. I think it was like some "grasshopper transforming into a locust" thing.

If anything it was probably Russian.